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Powerbookers- how many bounces to open terminal?
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Ok, this has got me a bit peeved, as today, with a few apps open, it took 38 bounces to get terminal open, and with no applications open, it took 22.
Now, I'm on a PowerBook G4 at 550 MHz, with 768 MB of RAM, so this seems a little wrong to me.
Will anyone else post their bounces for terminal on your powerbooks? Especially if you have 550s with more or less RAM?
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I have a pismo 400 with 384Megs RAM.
Terminal opened after 5 bounces just now.
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Less than three on my 667DVI with 768MB RAM.
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6 bounces on my Rev. B Ti667 with 512MB RAM and Internet Explorer open. It's also the first time I've launched it since rebooting after the disc recording update this morning. The subsequent launch took 3 bounces.
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Terminal opens in 2 bounces on my PowerBook G3 400 (384 MB of RAM), but there is a slight delay after the second bounce, so I guess you might say it opens in 3. This was the first launch.
I have Mail, Sherlock, System Preferences, Chimera and iTunes (not playing) open.
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Opens in two bounces for me also (800Mhz, 1GB). Something else is going on if yours takes so long, but coudn't tell ta what.
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Programs open: Word, Excel, Mail, Address Book, iCal, iChat, MSN, IE 5.2, Sherlock, iPhoto, iTunes, Photoshop.
Computer: PowerBook 667 DVI, 512 ram.
OS: 10.2
Bounces to open Terminal: 2.
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pismo 400/768m ram
Open Terminal after restart: 4 bounces.
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Mine took 4 bounces while IE, Mail.app, Adium, and Stickies were open. It was not the first launch for this boot.
Rev. B 667mhz TiBook, 512mb RAM. OS X 10.1.5
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Four bounces on my Pismo G3 500 640Mb RAM.
I launch terminal at login so it's always available. Four bounces represents a restart of the app.
38 bounces sounds very unhappy. When you finally get it going, what does the unix command top -u show?
Are there lots of pageouts showing high disk activity? I had a problem with a small nearly full hard disk and lots of RAM memory. The VM file got seriously fragmented and everything ground to a crawl. Fixed it with a big new disk.
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Ti 550 MhZ 512 MB RAM :
I have 8 bounces at first launch with Word, IE, Omniweb and 4-5 others apps open and Aquamon running in background.
I am under 10.1.5 and never made a clean install, just upgrades, since 10.0 (say disk fragmented...).
So I think my results could easily be better.
You must have a problem : disk fragmented or whatever. Try fsck -y when booting your Ti (I think you must press Apple+S or Option-Apple+S at boot to enter command line mode). Redo fsck -y until it says no anomalies were found then reboot.
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I think it depends on how many fonts you have installed... I might be wrong.
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First launch, 2 bounces with IE and PS 7 running in background. Ti 800/1GB
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bounces?
never heard it before, have I missed something
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Ok, I just fscked it (hehe) twice, made a minor correction the first time, and the second time, as you know, was to be safe. Still takes 38 bounces to open this at boot. No other apps running, 10.1.5. Running on the default login shell, and I have the default OS X fonts. Do you think a clean install would make it faster?
(edit- clarified what i meant)
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DVI 667 -- X.2 -- 512MB RAM
4 Bounces
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2 bounces on first launch
1 bounce on relaunch
Ti 800 DVI running 10.2
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I am running on a 667 DVI with 256mb RAM
Mail, IE, Chimera, Textedit and Sysprefs open. Running 10.2, 1 bounce at 1st launch.
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OK, I've never even heard the term before. What the heck is "the terminal"?
Once I know what it is, I'll be able to say how many bounces it takes to open it.
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I have had some pretty random bounce times with Terminal and other apps on my Powerbook.
I'm not an expert but I'm not convined my people's advice to run fsck and Disk First Aid et al as soon as there is something awry.
Bounce times with some apps (in particular Mail and Terminal) on my Powerbook can usally be tied down to networking issues. Because Powerbooks are so portable and often plugged into different network environments, OS X seems to be easily confused. FOr example if I have it on an ethernet network and then unplug it without changing the 'Location' I have so many apps that just hang until waiting for a net connection.... until something times out (usually a timeout message appears in the Console) and then a everythng is ok (bar a few annoying error messages, usually from Mail!)
Try creating a new Location with no active network ports, make that active, and see what happens.
Just to throw another thought into the pile.
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Ti DVI 667, 256 MB RAM, Word, PS 7, IE open.....takes 16-19 bounces for the first launch
Is my HD fragmentated?? IS it the low RAM???? I�m confused to see such a big difference compared to the others.
Suggestions?
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Pismo 500 Mhz with 1 GB RAM, two bounces.
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PB Ti 550 512mb/10.1.5 4 bounces
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I read this post a few days ago, and then something happened this morning that made me think about this issue again. Normally, the Terminal will start up on my Ti 800 (10.1.5, half gig of RAM) in about 2 bounces. This morning though, I clicked on Mail to start it and then immediately clicked on Terminal after that. Doing so caused Terminal to bounce maybe a dozen or so times before it started up. I know you said you tried it both with and without other apps running... Just thought this was worth mentioning.
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THX so very much for the answer............NOT!
So many answers after my question and none of them can take the extra time to write down a couple of words?
So I figured it out myself, I have 2 bounces on my "Lombard" 333mhz.
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2 bounces on my 266 G3 overclocked to 300 with 128MB of RAM. Running 10.2. Only iChat open.
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I don't think that launching an application from the Dock is a very good performance benchmark because it's all relative taking icon size into consideration. Larger icons are obviously going to take more CPU time to draw, and magnification makes things that much worse.
The AltiVec Fractal test is nice, though.
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