[Rumor]

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...tory?track=rss

I am not a history professor, or an archeologist, but hasn't it been proven time and time again that dinosaurs roamed the earth millions of years ago?

[ShortcutToMoncton]

This "rumor" has already been discussed. It is a filthy lie made up by some Communist blogger. Matt Damon believed it, and Matt Damon is a ****in idiot for having done so. Anyone on this forum who believed it is a dirty socialist. The LA Times is a lying liberal rag for believing it. In fact no one believes in a young-earth creation, it's just a dirty lying trick by socialists who want to turn America into a nation of lazy dependents.

…I'm almost out of attacks, hopefully someone else can pick up the slack

greg

[sek929]

"I've seen human footprints in the tracks."



That's one GREAT VP you've got there Republicans...

[smacintush]

I don't know how much of it is true and I am in no place to refute or accept it. Obviously her religious views…the ones we are sure of…sort of make me ill since she is running for public office.

Then again, I can't see how it is any better that Biden is a proud member of the stupid f*cking Catholic Church.

[Horsepoo!!!]

Actually they're all part of the Zionist Church. Get your facts straight.

[sek929]

This reminds of a Sopranos episode in Season 6 where Tony gets shot.

Religious guy visiting Tony "Dinosaurs and human beings lived on the earth at the same time."

Tony "What? Like 'The Flintstones'?"

Christopher "No way. T Rex in the Garden of Eden? Adam and Eve would be runnin' all the time, scared shitless. But the Bible says it was paradise."

[nonhuman]

Has anyone watched the most recent interview with Couric? I though Palin did an excellent job and, at least to me, quashed most of the stories about her supposed beliefs. She stated flat out that she supports contraception and even, though she wouldn't use it herself, the morning after pill. She stated flat out that she thinks evolution should be taught as established science. She stated flat out that she thinks that global warming/climate change is a problem, that human activity is a contributory cause of it, and that we need to work to address it and avoid the undesirable consequences of it.

Of course, this is all irrelevant to me as there's no way I'm going to vote for John 'the federal reserve should just spend the $1 trillion it has lying around to "fix" our current economic crisis without Congressional approval' McCain. I thought Obama was supposed to be the flaming socialist here?

[Shaddim]

I am not a history professor, or an archeologist, but hasn't it been proven time and time again that dinosaurs roamed the earth millions of years ago?

Yet, she's not used any views to push an agenda. She hasn't pushed for Creationism or ID to be a part of Alaskan education, and she hasn't worked to ban abortion in Alaska.

Seems to me that she simply says what she needs to say to get elected... which means she's a politician.

[smacintush]

Originally Posted by nonhuman 

I thought Obama was supposed to be the flaming socialist here?

Like I said in the another thread; this is why the Republicans conservatives were so resistant to McCain as a candidate.

[AKcrab]

Originally Posted by Shaddim 

Yet, she's not used any views to push an agenda.

She didn't want to give same sex couples equal benefits for state employees. I think that qualifies for pushing an agenda.

She hasn't pushed for Creationism or ID to be a part of Alaskan education, and she hasn't worked to ban abortion in Alaska..

Yet...

[PaperNotes]

Originally Posted by AKcrab 

Yet...

No politician in the US can outlaw abortion otherwise it would have been done already. The reason it can't be done is because the electorate is vast and varied and politicians want to pander to ALL of them. When politicians talk about pro-life, pro-death penalty, vote for or against military action, etc they will always flip flop on all these issues to get the most public support. Democrats are worse at this than Republicans.

As for Obama, he is an insult to humanity. He continues to say the Iraq incursion was wrong despite the fact that Iraq is liberated from a monster, has a democratically elected government, proper control of its oil resources to build the country and not fill the belly of one dictator and is on the economic rise.

Obama prefers what happened under Clinton : sanctions that starved 4 million Iraqis to death, kept Saddam in power and allowed international cronies connected to Saddam and the UN to fill their pockets with oil-for-food money.

From that alone you can tell the type of man Obama is. He is a redacted.

[dcmacdaddy]

Originally Posted by PaperNotes 

Obama prefers what happened under Clinton : sanctions that starved 4 million Iraqis to death, kept Saddam in power and allowed international cronies connected to Saddam and the UN to fill their pockets with oil-for-food money.

I am someone else who would rather see Iraqis suffer under Saddam than to see US troops die so we can "give" democracy to the Iraqi people. You can't impose democracy from the barrel of a gun. And more important, I don't want the US being the world's police force. It is not our responsibility to "bring" democracy to oppressed nations of the world. (But if you think it is our responsibility, please tell us when you plan to start advocating for military intervention in Sudan; They need democracy there in the worst way imaginable.) I don't think that is a valid role for the US to play in global affairs. I think we should focus on keeping our house in order and only getting involved in wars when it effects us directly: The war in Afghanistan effects us directly--The ruling powers in Afghanistan provided support to those who attacked us on 9/11--the war in Iraq was not due to any direct threat to or violence on the United States from Iraq.

[Paco500]

Originally Posted by PaperNotes 

No politician in the US can outlaw abortion otherwise it would have been done already. The reason it can't be done is because the electorate is vast and varied and politicians want to pander to ALL of them. When politicians talk about pro-life, pro-death penalty, vote for or against military action, etc they will always flip flop on all these issues to get the most public support. Democrats are worse at this than Republicans.

As for Obama, he is an insult to humanity. He continues to say the Iraq incursion was wrong despite the fact that Iraq is liberated from a monster, has a democratically elected government, proper control of its oil resources to build the country and not fill the belly of one dictator and is on the economic rise.

Obama prefers what happened under Clinton : sanctions that starved 4 million Iraqis to death, kept Saddam in power and allowed international cronies connected to Saddam and the UN to fill their pockets with oil-for-food money.

From that alone you can tell the type of man Obama is. He is a redacted.

wow.

[PaperNotes]

Originally Posted by dcmacdaddy 

I am someone else who would rather see Iraqis suffer under Saddam than to see US troops die so we can "give" democracy to the Iraqi people. You can't impose democracy from the barrel of a gun.

Kinda like a Hitler appeaser in the 30s then. Welcome to reality, Mr Chamberlain.

Those troops are proud of their duty. You can't speak for them.

[Dakar V]

Originally Posted by PaperNotes 

Those troops are proud of their duty. You can't speak for them.

...but you can.

[sek929]

Originally Posted by PaperNotes 

Those troops are proud of their duty. You can't speak for them.

Considering I've personally known at least a dozen folks in the armed forces, and most of them say the Iraq war is BS and we should never be there I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you there.

Yes they are proud to be marines/army/navy, no they are not proud of what they are being made to do.

(BTW three of these friends of mine are Officers that graduated from West Point)

[dcmacdaddy]

Originally Posted by PaperNotes 

Kinda like a Hitler appeaser in the 30s then. Welcome to reality, Mr Chamberlain.

Those troops are proud of their duty. You can't speak for them.

Was I claiming to speak for how the troops felt about their assignment? NO!

I simply articulated my opinion as to what I felt would be the best use of our troops in the armed service. And just to be super-clear, I don't think the best trained, best equipped military in the world should be used to promote democracy; That is a job for diplomats. I want our armed forces to deal with military issues NOT political issues.

[lpkmckenna]

Originally Posted by smacintush 

Then again, I can't see how it is any better that Biden is a proud member of the stupid f*cking Catholic Church.

Everyone knows that Catholics don't listen to the Vatican. Evangelicals believe everything their preachers tell them.

[smacintush]

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna 

Everyone knows that Catholics don't listen to the Vatican. Evangelicals believe everything their preachers tell them.

I don't know that at all. The only Catholic like that I know is my mother.

Nevertheless, having a largely hypocritical membership doesn't somehow make the church or the membership less idiotic.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by dcmacdaddy 

And just to be super-clear, I don't think the best trained, best equipped military in the world should be used to promote democracy

Don't worry - the SBS are never used to promote democracy.

[dcmacdaddy]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

Don't worry - the SBS are never used to promote democracy.

Yeah, yeah . . . You guys have the SBS* but we have the SEALS.


*I thought the SAS was considered the premier special forces component of the British military? They were the ones who did that whole embassy rescue a few decades back, right? I hear a lot more about them than I ever do about the boat service.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by dcmacdaddy 

Yeah, yeah . . . You guys have the SBS* but we have the SEALS.

Originally Posted by dcmacdaddy 

*I thought the SAS was considered the premier special forces component of the British military? They were the ones who did that whole embassy rescue a few decades back, right? I hear a lot more about them than I ever do about the boat service.

The boaties are way more secretive than the SAS (which is why you never hear about them). There could be a boatie standing right next to you at this very minute and you wouldn't know it. Heck, you wouldn't know it if the one standing next to you killed you 30 seconds ago - you'd just be wondering why you were dying when there's no obvious reason for it.
You know how kids have nightmares about there being monsters in their closets? Well, the SAS have nightmares about there being boaties in theirs. They're that hard.

[dcmacdaddy]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

You know how kids have nightmares about there being monsters in their closets? Well, the SAS have nightmares about there being boaties in theirs. They're that hard.

Excellent quote/explanation. I will save that for future reference. Cheers!