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BEIGE · Jul 24, 2002, 01:57 PM

anyone know if USB Overdrive X works in the new build? it's broken in the earlier builds.

Oneota · Jul 24, 2002, 02:09 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by BEIGE:
anyone know if USB Overdrive X works in the new build? it's broken in the earlier builds.<hr /></blockquote>I'm betting that many, MANY hardware drivers (not that there's many to choose from...but...nonetheless) will need some tweaking to work with 10.2.

oranjdisc · Jul 24, 2002, 02:18 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daydreamer:
in case ya didn't know, c106 starts up with an apple logo now, not with re-styled happy mac..<hr /></blockquote>Anyone have a snap?

LightWaver-67 · Jul 24, 2002, 02:21 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daydreamer:
in case ya didn't know, c106 starts up with an apple logo now, not with re-styled happy mac..<hr /></blockquote>Although whatever they put there would NOT stop me from buying... I'm GLAD to see it be an Apple logo and not the newly-styled happy-face that's been floaing around. Then again... who knows WHAT will actually be there on the final GM...? They can change it at the last second to PeeWee Herman and I'd still use it.

Clarification: Is it just the "Aqua-esque" Apple logo on it's own...?

daydreamer · Jul 24, 2002, 03:55 PM

its not an aqua apple logo, its a grey one, just a filled grey apple logo form...its cool

ill post pic later

Anomalous · Jul 24, 2002, 04:07 PM

ACK! Are we arguing over 4K78 all over again?

WHO CARES how many versions of 4K78 there were, or which was GM. Don't you remember that 4K78 was superseded by 10.01 in a matter of days anyway?

MacAttack · Jul 24, 2002, 04:09 PM

<img src="http://www.geocities.com/macattackpics/6C106HappyMac.jpg" alt=" - " />

In case the above pic doesn't load inline for some reason, here's the link:

<a href="http://www.geocities.com/macattackpics/6C106HappyMac.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/macattackpics/6C106HappyMac.jpg</a>

Simply copy the above link and paste it into the URL Address bar...Geocities apparently doesn't allow it to work by simply clicking on the link.
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

[ 07-24-2002, 04:27 PM: Message edited by: MacAttack ]

Guy Incognito · Jul 24, 2002, 04:12 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by MacAttack:
 <img src="http://www.geocities.com/macattackpics/6C106HappyMac.jpg" alt=" - " /><hr /></blockquote>That should calm the **** out of everyone.

barney ntd · Jul 24, 2002, 04:17 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by MacAttack:
 <img src="http://www.geocities.com/macattackpics/6C106HappyMac.jpg" alt=" - " />

In case the above pic doesn't load inline for some reason, here's the link:

<a href="http://www.geocities.com/macattackpics/6C106HappyMac.jpg" target="_blank">Picture of 6C106 "Happy Mac" early boot screen</a><hr /></blockquote>Um... problem is, the link doesn't work either.

superfula · Jul 24, 2002, 04:19 PM

Geocities doesn't allow external linking. So you have to copy the url and paste it into the browser. Clicking won't work.

lookmark · Jul 24, 2002, 04:20 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daydreamer:
in case ya didn't know, c106 starts up with an apple logo now, not with re-styled happy mac..<hr /></blockquote>Say it isn't so!

The new Happy Mac was just beginning to grow on me.

bmedina · Jul 24, 2002, 04:20 PM

Yeah, I can't see either of them. I'm anxious to see what it looks like, though!

Jul 24, 2002, 04:29 PM

I really don't think it is that cool. I mean, yeah, it is better than the previous thing, but yet...

Anyway, any other new stuff? Any bugfixes that were not in earlier builds or so?

Steve

CheesePuff · Jul 24, 2002, 04:29 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by bmedina:
Yeah, I can't see either of them. I'm anxious to see what it looks like, though!<hr /></blockquote>You have to copy the link into the browser and then go to it.

lookmark · Jul 24, 2002, 04:30 PM

Hmrph, it's just going to be a small gray solid Apple logo centered on a white screen or something.

Guess the devs and the like didn't go for that 'hello'.

Shame · Jul 24, 2002, 04:30 PM

Pics PLEASE! Something completely new.

gorickey · Jul 24, 2002, 04:34 PM

lookmark · Jul 24, 2002, 04:36 PM

OK, OK! Enough of that picture already.

Shame · Jul 24, 2002, 04:38 PM

More shots! And turn that flash off.

gorickey · Jul 24, 2002, 04:39 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by lookmark:
OK, OK! Enough of that picture already.<hr /></blockquote>Oh, sorry to help out...my bad...

marmot · Jul 24, 2002, 04:41 PM

can someone running 6c106 comment on that adobe display bug that was mentioned earlier?

dancrane2 · Jul 24, 2002, 04:48 PM

I am also curious....I am running a 6c98 build and the micro$oft products have a curser problem (excel, word, explorer) where it vanishes in the active window of the ms product. Does this problem still exist in 6c106?

Also, the HP photosmart 1215 driver doesn't work, even though it is listed as a supported printer.

MacAttack · Jul 24, 2002, 05:12 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by dancrane2:
I am also curious....I am running a 6c98 build and the micro$oft products have a curser problem (excel, word, explorer) where it vanishes in the active window of the ms product. Does this problem still exist in 6c106?<hr /></blockquote>Nope...I had that problem too in 6C98. It's fixed in 6C106.

Justin W. Williams · Jul 24, 2002, 06:09 PM

I want it now now now. Not at the end of August...now!

brainchild2b · Jul 24, 2002, 07:55 PM

If your on a G3 you will notice large speed increases in this build. G4 already do most of the stuff, menus, file browsing, fast already. This build however screams on a g3 400mhz with 768mb of ram. It is like getting a G4 upgrade. The build I previously had was 6c98, I've tested every build that Apple has put out. I love how fast this build is. Very stable. FTP is unusable in the finder completely however, previously it was only partial disabled.

oranjdisc · Jul 24, 2002, 08:14 PM

Oh baby. I LIIIIIIIIKE that new boot graphic. Silly to get all nuts about something as silly as that, but hey, we'll all be staring at that for years to come, so it BETTER be good.

That is, if I ever need to reboot after 10.2... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

GIMME GIMME! I CAN'T WAIT!

<soil pants>

dillerX · Jul 25, 2002, 11:49 AM

This is by far one of the most entertaining threads i've read in a long time.

Just for the record. I love my copy of 6C106.

macaddled · Jul 25, 2002, 11:54 AM

Now this, this is an entertaining thread: <a href="http://boards.rivals.net/default.asp?sid=898&p=16&style=2&forumId=5709&acti on=1&replytoid=2137480729" target="_blank">Brian Tindle, Sarah, Emma from Boots and a goat</a>

Zimphire · Jul 25, 2002, 03:23 PM

PTHpasteboard works in 6C106, and it didn't in 6c98

I am now a happier person.

ericwass · Jul 25, 2002, 03:28 PM

Any word on USB Overdrive compatibility? I don't need Inkwell, I need USB Overdrive.

brainchild2b · Jul 25, 2002, 03:40 PM

Eric I couldn't tell you on that, the mouse can be set a bit faster. I use Kensington mouseworks anyway for speedup. There are other apps besides USB overdrive that speed up the mouse if that is all you need. Several of them work fine in 10.2

lenz · Jul 25, 2002, 05:10 PM

OK, here are my two bits....how come inkwell is nowhere to be found in 6c106? Is it going to be an optional add-on? As for 6c160 being GM or even FC I say no way! I have my tiBook running on it right now and I'm going to downgrade back to 10.1 soon because of too many annoying bugs like the cursor jumping around all over the place under heavy cpu usage and apps crashing. It's quite close though, that's my opinion. And don't forget guys apple could always delay the shipment. It's not like they've never done that before.

ls -al · Jul 25, 2002, 05:17 PM

Keychain Access has been revised in this build. Full cocoa treatment including a nice toolbar.

Guy Incognito · Jul 25, 2002, 05:36 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by lenz:
As for 6c160 being GM or even FC I say no way! <hr /></blockquote>Yeah, I hope 6c160 isn't GM...there's no way that build could be ready by September.

V · Jul 25, 2002, 06:01 PM

Little question, why is there two CD of the release, (except DEV Tools)?
What is on disk 1 and what is on disk 2?

Thanks

LightWaver-67 · Jul 25, 2002, 06:20 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by V:
Little question, why is there two CD of the release, (except DEV Tools)?
What is on disk 1 and what is on disk 2?

Thanks<hr /></blockquote>Disk 1: Chocolaty outer coating
Disk 2: Creamy Peanut Butter center

MMMmmmm... Jaguar... [ drool ]

AU_student_iceBook · Jul 25, 2002, 06:33 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by LightWaver-67:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by V:
Little question, why is there two CD of the release, (except DEV Tools)?
What is on disk 1 and what is on disk 2?

Thanks<hr /></blockquote>Disk 1: Chocolaty outer coating
Disk 2: Creamy Peanut Butter center

MMMmmmm... Jaguar... [ drool ]<hr /></blockquote>Excellen homer reference.

To answer the original question...
the first cd contains all the "osx sytem/installer" stuff
the second cd contains iMovie, iTunes, printer stuff.
hope that answers it.

V · Jul 25, 2002, 06:37 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by AU_student_iceBook:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by LightWaver-67:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by V:
Little question, why is there two CD of the release, (except DEV Tools)?
What is on disk 1 and what is on disk 2?

Thanks<hr /></blockquote>Disk 1: Chocolaty outer coating
Disk 2: Creamy Peanut Butter center

MMMmmmm... Jaguar... [ drool ]<hr /></blockquote>Excellen homer reference.

To answer the original question...
the first cd contains all the "osx sytem/installer" stuff
the second cd contains iMovie, iTunes, printer stuff.
hope that answers it.<hr /></blockquote>Yeah, thanks a lot.

Oneota · Jul 25, 2002, 06:53 PM

I wish they'd put the localizations on the second CD; sorry to be english-centric, but the majority of Mac OS users are English-speaking, so it doesn't make sense to install all those languages (which take up a *lot* of space) when they're never going to be used.

If they did that, I'll bet they could easily fit the OS and the apps on the first CD.

sambeau · Jul 25, 2002, 07:21 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Oneota:
I wish they'd put the localizations on the second CD; sorry to be english-centric, but the majority of Mac OS users are English-speaking, so it doesn't make sense to install all those languages (which take up a *lot* of space) when they're never going to be used.

If they did that, I'll bet they could easily fit the OS and the apps on the first CD.<hr /></blockquote>but if they did that - how would anyone who didn't speak english manage to read the instructions they need to read to perform an install?

or do you expect them aqll to make do in english until they manage to install their language.

what is japanese for "please insert disk two to install japanese to learn about how to insert disk two"..

brainchild2b · Jul 25, 2002, 08:12 PM

Inkwell only shows up if you plug in an inkwell compatible device. What good otherwise does it do you

As far as the new keychain application, this has been there since 6c92

hew · Jul 25, 2002, 08:16 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Oneota:
I wish they'd put the localizations on the second CD; sorry to be english-centric, but the majority of Mac OS users are English-speaking, so it doesn't make sense to install all those languages (which take up a *lot* of space) when they're never going to be used.

If they did that, I'll bet they could easily fit the OS and the apps on the first CD.<hr /></blockquote>You may already know this, but you can turn off those localizations even in the 10.1 installer. Just click the Customize button at the install section. In 10.2 they have a better custom installer it allows you to check and uncheck certain printer drivers and everything is group like localizations, so you can uncheck all the localizations in one click. Looking forward to the final of Jaguar.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

mrtew · Jul 25, 2002, 09:07 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by hew:
In 10.2 they have a better custom installer it allows you to check and uncheck certain printer drivers and everything is group like localizations, so you can uncheck all the localizations in one click. Looking forward to the final of Jaguar.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>Is 10.2 going to install well over 10.1 or would it be better to do a clean install on an empty partition (if you have one). And how much space to you need for it to install? I have 10.1 on a 2 gig partition that only has 637MB free. Will it work? Or should I install it on it's own 2gig partition. (I have no intention of reformatting my drive into one big 48gig partition... I love all my many partitions equally regardless of their size differences... :-]

Drizzt · Jul 25, 2002, 10:54 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by John Tewksbury:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by hew:
In 10.2 they have a better custom installer it allows you to check and uncheck certain printer drivers and everything is group like localizations, so you can uncheck all the localizations in one click. Looking forward to the final of Jaguar.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>Is 10.2 going to install well over 10.1 or would it be better to do a clean install on an empty partition (if you have one). And how much space to you need for it to install? I have 10.1 on a 2 gig partition that only has 637MB free. Will it work? Or should I install it on it's own 2gig partition. (I have no intention of reformatting my drive into one big 48gig partition... I love all my many partitions equally regardless of their size differences... :-]<hr /></blockquote>You know, you could probably edit your /etc/fstab file so /Users is a partition, /Application is an other one, /System is an other one..

having multiple disks it would be a speed gain.. and having multiple partitions means more security (users can't take too much place)..

JLL · Jul 26, 2002, 07:48 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by brainchild2b:
Inkwell only shows up if you plug in an inkwell compatible device. What good otherwise does it do you

<hr /></blockquote>And Ink is very cool - our graphics department (who are using Wacoms) want Mac OS X, but we can't switch yet.

To Ken_F2: Ink requires absolutely no training, and the recognition is great.

solitere · Jul 26, 2002, 08:05 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by BEIGE:
anyone know if USB Overdrive X works in the new build? it's broken in the earlier builds.<hr /></blockquote>All microsoft drivers like Keyboard and Mouse drivers, seems to work fine. Printer sharing is working great, no dissapering cursors..and so on...

Jul 26, 2002, 08:10 AM

Seriously though, will we be able to install 10.2 over 10.1? Not to be able to do this would be a darn pain in the ass, ya know...

Steve

JLL · Jul 26, 2002, 08:24 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by SteveJobs:
Seriously though, will we be able to install 10.2 over 10.1?<hr /></blockquote>Yep!

zadak · Jul 26, 2002, 10:40 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JLL:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by SteveJobs:
Seriously though, will we be able to install 10.2 over 10.1?<hr /></blockquote>Yep!<hr /></blockquote>And do it smooth aswell. The 10.2 installer has an option to backup previous installed system AND copy all settings from it. Works flawless. Totally love it.

Btw, they have included a new desktop called Faux fur that is the pattern seen on the box and other places. Lovely.

Roger

Oneota · Jul 26, 2002, 10:49 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by sambeau:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Oneota:
I wish they'd put the localizations on the second CD; sorry to be english-centric, but the majority of Mac OS users are English-speaking, so it doesn't make sense to install all those languages (which take up a *lot* of space) when they're never going to be used.

If they did that, I'll bet they could easily fit the OS and the apps on the first CD.<hr /></blockquote>but if they did that - how would anyone who didn't speak english manage to read the instructions they need to read to perform an install?

or do you expect them aqll to make do in english until they manage to install their language.

what is japanese for "please insert disk two to install japanese to learn about how to insert disk two"..<hr /></blockquote>Well, the installer should certainly be localized. But the languages for the operating system to be installed should be on the second CD. That way, if you want to install the OS in another language, it first installs the OS and the Apps, then asks you to insert the second CD (caching enough of the OS into RAM so that it can bear to be without its OS disc for a couple of seconds), and install whatever languages you asked for.
[Edit: Clarification]

[ 07-26-2002, 10:51 AM: Message edited by: Oneota ]