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olePigeon · 05:04 AM

I'm surrounded by morons.

Edit: Happy?

thunderous_funker · Dec 19, 2003, 08:35 PM

Well, before you abandon all hope, perhaps we should find some data on how that 52% of the population correlates with the 30% of the population that actually votes.

That might offer a slim, silver lining.

undotwa · Dec 19, 2003, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by olePigeon:
I'm surround by morons.

Well you sir are a moron.

English uses the 'past participle' to indicate a passive construct. In addition English capitalises the first letter of a sentence. So ideally your sentence should of read:

'I'm surrounded by morons.'.

I am a wanker.

Misanthrope · Dec 19, 2003, 08:46 PM

I think the word "indirectly" is a bit more inline with reality.

Face Ache · Dec 19, 2003, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by undotwa:
I am a wanker.

No mistake there.

BlackGriffen · Dec 19, 2003, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by undotwa:
Well you sir are a moron.

English uses the 'past participle' to indicate a passive construct. In addition English capitalises the first letter of a sentence. So ideally your sentence should of read:

'I'm surrounded by morons.'.

I am a wanker.

I just love critics who get it wrong. His 'I' was capitalized just fine.

P.S. avoid the writings of e e cummings.

BlackGriffen

ryju · Dec 19, 2003, 08:55 PM

Freshen' y'drink gov'na??

ambush · Dec 19, 2003, 08:57 PM

SAD

Blame Bush.

wataru · Dec 19, 2003, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by undotwa:
So ideally your sentence should of read:

'I'm surrounded by morons.'.

I am a wanker.

should have

Way to go, moron.

sideus · Dec 19, 2003, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by ambush:
SAD

Blame Bush.

Oh yeah, he started it.

rampant · Dec 19, 2003, 09:31 PM

Originally posted by sideus:
Oh yeah, he started it.

He did. + you suck

Scifience · Dec 19, 2003, 10:14 PM

Why is it that perfectly good threads always degrade into flame wars?

And why is it that I am contributing to the fact that this thread is derailed further and further off topic?

Oh, well, that's life in the Lounge!

Chemmy · Dec 19, 2003, 10:25 PM

Hawkeye_a · Dec 19, 2003, 11:40 PM

52% ? thats preety disappointing, i always thought there were a lot more dumber people than that.

cacarr1 · Dec 20, 2003, 01:02 AM

How do you know he wasn't?

Let me guess...you have a top secret contact in the CIA!? Or you've done your own exhaustive research to come to that conclusion.
Because I hope you aren't drawing that conclusion just because our media tells us that is the case...

While I don't think he was directly involved in the attack, I think it's too easy to dismiss those who do as being "morons".

No offense...I just think most everything is being viewed with less and less skepticism (not just opinions that you want to believe).

Chemmy · Dec 20, 2003, 01:58 AM

Originally posted by cacarr1:
Let me guess...you have a top secret contact in the CIA!? Or you've done your own exhaustive research to come to that conclusion.
Because I hope you aren't drawing that conclusion just because our media tells us that is the case...

dtriska · Dec 20, 2003, 02:32 AM

Originally posted by Chemmy:
<snip>

ROTFLMAO!!

mixin visuals · Dec 20, 2003, 02:41 AM

regardless of the pole.

i bet he isn't asleep right now...

interrogation 24/7

malvolio · Dec 20, 2003, 06:59 AM

George W. Bush has shown us yet again that the Big Lie technique still works.

Spheric Harlot · Dec 20, 2003, 07:06 AM

Originally posted by malvolio:
George W. Bush has shown us yet again that the Big Lie technique still works.

The problem being that nobody ever posts follow-up stories. CNN never does stories like, "Anybody remember the anthrax scare and how we were pinning it on al Qaeda? Well, just recently, evidence has come to light that suggests it was an American weapons lab..." or, "Remember the headlines on Saddam Hussein's involvement with al Qaeda? Well, it has just turned out that those documents were forged, as Pakistani claims of meetings between Iraqi officials and Mohammed Atta are being retracted..."

Because this doesn't happen, all it takes is some politician wildly stating bullshit in a State-of-the-Union address. Whatever he says will stick, because nobody ever gets the follow-up story.

That's how propaganda works.

-s*

voodoo · Dec 20, 2003, 07:27 AM

CNN and most other news agencies are too busy making themselves trustworthy - that their news are actually the *truth* and as such can't be amended after it has been reported. Sad huh?

Commodus · Dec 20, 2003, 08:26 AM

The problem is definitely that most people don't really think about the news they're hearing or seeing, and tend to have short memories.

Remember how "Gulf War 2" (or Gulf War 3, if you count the Iran-Iraq War) was supposed to be about finding WMD? Notice how there was an increasing reemphasis on 'liberation' and taking down Hussein as the war went on and no evidence of WMD was being found? If enough people had stopped to realize what the actual objectives were supposed to have been - especially given that some of the evidence appears to have been dubious or exaggerated - then Bush would probably be drawing a lot more flak from his own country than he is.

Then again, a lot of the people in the US (and Canada isn't immune from this sort of person) use AOL Internet service, buy the cheapest computer they can find at Radio Shack, and shop at Wal-Mart when a specialty store would be the better choice. They accept what they see at face value and without placing it in context.

Freeflyer · Dec 20, 2003, 11:12 AM

Ah, the power of the media over the minds of the people.

Ain't tv a wonderful thing.

Unfortunately, most news media follows the common denominator and people in general have learned to stop questioning or thinking and just believe what they see on tv.

Taking a dose of news media from around the world shows that other countries view things very differently sometimes.

I love the internet and the more balanced view it offers of the world in general.

J.

wataru · Dec 20, 2003, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by mixin visuals:
regardless of the pole.

poll

Oh wait, are we done flaming about grammar/spelling?

Chemmy · Dec 20, 2003, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by Commodus:
Notice how there was an increasing reemphasis on 'liberation' and taking down Hussein as the war went on and no evidence of WMD was being found?

A large portion of Americans believe we found WMD in Iraq.

olePigeon · Dec 20, 2003, 05:05 PM

Clinton practically gets impeached for lying about something (and understandably so), yet Bush gets more than 1/2 of the voting population to support him for lying.

Maybe if they put Bush in a chair on national television and have him say,"I did not have sexual relations... with Iraq." people would be up in arms about his impeachment.

cacarr1 · Dec 20, 2003, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by olePigeon:
Clinton practically gets impeached for lying about something (and understandably so), yet Bush gets more than 1/2 of the voting population to support him for lying.

Maybe if they put Bush in a chair on national television and have him say,"I did not have sexual relations... with Iraq." people would be up in arms about his impeachment.

Maybe, maybe not.

After all, the same intelligence that told him about WMD's also told you that there was no connection between 9/11 and Hussein.

That was my earlier point.

spacefreak · Dec 21, 2003, 01:55 AM

Take this to the Politics lounge where you can face some good, old fashioned flaming!

fireside · Dec 21, 2003, 11:29 PM

no, im sure StarWarsGuy will find this thread sometime in the Lounge.

*rimshot*

sniffer · Dec 21, 2003, 11:56 PM

Hmm.. Those numbers.. Nothing wrong with someone's imagination I'll guess.