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Feb 28, 2017, 08:09 PM
 
AG Sessions Says DOJ to 'Pull Back' on Police Department Civil Rights Suits - NBC News
Sessions said such a move would not be "wrong or insensitive to civil rights or human rights." Instead, he said people in poor and minority communities must feel free from the threat of violent crime, which will require more effective policing with help from the federal government.
Quite clearly, Sessions is saying stopping crime is more important than civil rights.

Imagine how much better life will be in poor in minority communities when crime is all but absent, and they only need worry about being harassed, falsely thrown in jail or even killed because of the color of their skin by the very people 'protecting' them.

Jeff Sessions Issues Ominous Warning On State Marijuana Legalization | The Huffington Post
“Experts are telling me there’s more violence around marijuana than one would think and there’s big money involved,” he said.
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Jeff Sessions Warns Of An America With 'Marijuana Sold At Every Corner Grocery Store' | The Huffington Post
A 2016 study from Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health found “adverse consequences of opioid use” decreased over time in states where marijuana is legalized as individuals substituted marijuana for opioids to treat pain.

But Sessions scoffed at Kamin’s reasoning.

“Give me a break,” Sessions said. “This is the kind of argument that has been out there. [It’s] almost a desperate attempt to defend the harmlessness of marijuana or even benefits. I doubt that’s true. Maybe science will prove me wrong. ... My best view is that we don’t need to be legalizing marijuana.”
“I don’t think America is going to be a better place when people of all ages, and particularly young people, are smoking pot,” Sessions said. “I believe it’s an unhealthy practice, and current levels of THC in marijuana are very high compared to what they were a few years ago, and we’re seeing real violence around that.
Sorry Jeff, I have not heard those reports, but from what I know some of it was pretty anecdotal, and not so scientifically based.
     
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Still better than Holder.
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Mar 2, 2017, 02:16 AM
 
Looks like we may have a "whoopsie daisy".
     
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Mar 2, 2017, 01:12 PM
 
A former W ethics lawyer says he should resign which does nothing to clear up the situation for me. Though I imagine he was a never trumper
     
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Mar 5, 2017, 02:49 PM
 
Kristin Wiig would have made a much better Sessions.
     
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Mar 7, 2017, 12:15 PM
 
Funny thing I noticed about yesterday... almost zero coverage of Sessions' clarifications.
     
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Mar 7, 2017, 12:26 PM
 
That goes for anyone. You clicks for the revelation not the clarification.
     
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Mar 7, 2017, 12:29 PM
 
I was thinking more the revised travel ban and Trumpcare sucked the oxygen out of the news cycle.
     
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Mar 7, 2017, 01:12 PM
 
I haven't read but I saw a headline that said his amended response was essentially "my previous testimony stands"
     
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Mar 7, 2017, 01:26 PM
 
He said the RNC meeting was just shooting the shit, while the meeting in his office was senatorial, and included his staff.
     
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Mar 7, 2017, 01:41 PM
 
I forgot, his testimony is still in error if he was present while Carter Page was meeting with the guy at the RNC
     
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In what way?
     
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Mar 7, 2017, 01:47 PM
 
Carter Page was part of the Trump campaign.
     
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Mar 7, 2017, 01:56 PM
 
Franken wants Sessions to clarify his testimony in person. This ain't gonna happen because god help Sessions if the Democrats probe what he knows or has done under oath.
     
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Mar 7, 2017, 02:04 PM
 
Doesn't that depend upon what was discussed while Sessions was present?
     
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Mar 7, 2017, 02:06 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Doesn't that depend upon what was discussed while Sessions was present?
I'd have to see the wording of the question to be sure.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Franken wants Sessions to clarify his testimony in person. This ain't gonna happen because god help Sessions if the Democrats probe what he knows or has done under oath.
Another nice judo move, though.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I'd have to see the wording of the question to be sure.
Which question? Franken's?
     
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Mar 7, 2017, 02:08 PM
 
The one all the hubbub is about (Yes, by Franken, but possibly Leahys follow up)
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Another nice judo move, though.
Sadly, I don't understand what you mean by judo. I imagine it's pretty rare for a confirmed nominee to get called back but I also imagine this kind of mixup is rare. Having a hearing seems fair to me, though I understand not wanting to subject a person from your side to the extra coverage regardless of possible problems.

That said an innocent person would be more likely to welcome it. I seem to recall some person suffering a six hour grilling this summer with that intent.
     
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Mar 7, 2017, 02:45 PM
 
I'm too lazy to dig up the actual quote, but Franken said something along the lines of "I want to give Sessions the benefit of the doubt... he should come and clear this up", of course knowing full well Sessions would rather tie his dick in a knot. That's the judo part.
     
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Mar 7, 2017, 02:54 PM
 
Ah. Well typical political grandstanding.
     
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It's usually more ham-fisted than that.
     
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Credit to Franken then
     
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...a08_story.html

Wouldn't want science killing those conviction rates
     
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Sessions Is 'Surprised' At Backlash To Marijuana Rhetoric | The Daily Caller
That's because you're an out of touch racist, you git.
     
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Apr 21, 2017, 09:05 PM
 
I guess I'm going to have to do this every time Sessions mentions Chicago.



Immigrants apparently really hate black people.
     
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Sessions orders prosecutors to seek maximum punishment for drug offenses
     
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May 12, 2017, 09:02 PM
 
I don't know much about this Sessions guy, but what I do know I don't like. He smells like a particularly rancid corner of Trump's new swamp.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Sessions orders prosecutors to seek maximum punishment for drug offenses
Well, that's dumb.
     
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That's the best part of this: There's bipartisan consensus this shit doesn't work. And Trump had to put this throwback in a position where he can **** everyone over.
     
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May 18, 2017, 11:15 PM
 
http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...wThqCw.twitter
Democrats pointed to the role of Sessions as one of their top unanswered questions leaving the briefing. Sessions recused himself earlier this year from FBI’s investigation but was involved in the decision to fire Comey — a move Democrats argue violated his promise.

“Many of us including myself asked that question,” Durbin said. “I can't square Sessions's recusal with his role in dismissing the person who was in charge of the investigation."
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May 18, 2017, 11:32 PM
 
He's got cover as long as they can maintain it's about Clinton.

As an aside, I don't generally approve of this sort of thing in the public square, but hearing him called the "Ku Klux Keebler" managed to bag a smirk.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
He's got cover as long as they can maintain it's about Clinton.
I don't see how. Even if his reasons were unrelated his actions still directly impact the investigation.

It's like firing someone because of a mistake they made a year before when in reality its because they're black (or some other discrimination)
     
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Let's say Comey shot someone.

Sessions can't suggest he get fired because of the recusal?

Presuming he can, the question isn't whether he's allowed to hurdle the bar, but how low it's set.

In defense of his suggestion, Sessions will pin a litany of evil on Clinton and say Comey let her get away with it, thus destroying the very fabric of the American justice system.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Let's say Comey shot someone.

Sessions can't suggest he get fired because of the recusal?
You cannot divorce the situation from its context.
Sessions has recused himself from the Russia investigation, because he perjured himself during his confirmation hearing (he did not disclose he had meetings with Russia). Arguably, the Russia investigation is at the center of the Comey firing, so Sessions should stay out of the investigation and let other people handle it.
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Let's say Comey shot someone.

Sessions can't suggest he get fired because of the recusal?

Presuming he can, the question isn't whether he's allowed to hurdle the bar, but how low it's set.

In defense of his suggestion, Sessions will pin a litany of evil on Clinton and say Comey let her get away with it, thus destroying the very fabric of the American justice system.
His deputy should and can handle that situation. What situation with Comey could occur that Rosenstein isn't qualified to handle?
     
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Originally Posted by OreoCookie View Post
Arguably, the Russia investigation is at the center of the Comey firing
Until this is no longer arguable, he has cover.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
His deputy should and can handle that situation. What situation with Comey could occur that Rosenstein isn't qualified to handle?
Why does it matter if Sessions is telling the truth about his reasons?

If the problem is Sessions is lying, then that's the pertinent ethical violation, no?
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Until this is no longer arguable, he has cover.
The Russia investigation was not only mentioned in the White House's letter to Comey that informed Comey of his firing, but also by Trump in a TV interview. Sessions shouldn't touch the Comey affair with a 10-foot pole. Plus, it is not as if his deputy isn't willing or able to handle the DOJ's responsibilities in the investigation.
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Why does it matter if Sessions is telling the truth about his reasons?

If the problem is Sessions is lying, then that's the pertinent ethical violation, no?
Because proving it is extremely difficult?

You're changing the argument though. Was it necessary for him to get involved?
     
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Originally Posted by OreoCookie View Post
The Russia investigation was not only mentioned in the White House's letter to Comey that informed Comey of his firing, but also by Trump in a TV interview. Sessions shouldn't touch the Comey affair with a 10-foot pole. Plus, it is not as if his deputy isn't willing or able to handle the DOJ's responsibilities in the investigation.
He's going to say it was about the emails, and absent hard evidence to the contrary, it's our word against his.

I personally think it's about Russia, but I can't say the claim is anything other than educated conjecture.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
He's going to say it was about the emails, and absent hard evidence to the contrary, it's our word against his.

I personally think it's about Russia, but I can't say the claim is anything other than educated conjecture.
Of course, Session's decision to get involved ignores best practices and his earlier “promise” that he'll stay out of it — I wrote “should” rather than “will” after all.
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Because proving it is extremely difficult?

You're changing the argument though. Was it necessary for him to get involved?
He's a Republican dickbag prosecutor. Almost everything he does is unnecessary.

I'm assuming there's little useful to be had in confirming he's a shithead, and what's relevant is has it reached the level he's signed his own pink slip.

My claim is until there's hard evidence which shows it was about Russia, he has cover.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
He's a Republican dickbag prosecutor. Almost everything he does is unnecessary.

I'm assuming there's little useful to be had in confirming he's a shithead, and what's relevant is has it reached the level he's signed his own pink slip.

My claim is until there's hard evidence which shows it was about Russia, he has cover.
I'm agreeing with your conclusion, Sessions should be pressured to resign. My initial comment was just a response to your questions as to why Sessions shouldn't be involved if the director the FBI is suspected of wrongdoing.
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
He's a Republican dickbag prosecutor. Almost everything he does is unnecessary.

I'm assuming there's little useful to be had in confirming he's a shithead, and what's relevant is has it reached the level he's signed his own pink slip.

My claim is until there's hard evidence which shows it was about Russia, he has cover.
Ok, fair reminder. But I think that reinforces the Dems point: that having a hand in firing Comey looks shady. If he wanted to avoid the appearance of impropriety he shouldn't have gotten involved. And, considering Rosenstein, I don't know why he would have risked it.
     
 
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