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10.4.10 released
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Jun 20, 2007, 04:17 PM
 
Reactions? Is it snappier?

Im unfortunately chicken....
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Jun 20, 2007, 04:27 PM
 
I'm too scared to install this. Maybe it will revert my system back to the way it was in 10.4.1.

Did you uninstall the Safari 3 beta before installing this?
     
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Jun 20, 2007, 04:31 PM
 
Originally Posted by tkmd View Post
Reactions? Is it snappier?

Im unfortunately chicken....
Don't worry. There are many guinea pigs out there that will do it for you.
     
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Jun 20, 2007, 04:33 PM
 
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Installing...
Riveting information. Thanks. I cant wait to see 378 more posts just like yours
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Jun 20, 2007, 04:33 PM
 
Installing...
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backing up first...
     
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Jun 20, 2007, 04:52 PM
 
Safari 3 was replaced by Safari 4!
     
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Jun 20, 2007, 04:55 PM
 
Well, its installed with no problems. It took some time to restart and my moms iMac G5 restarted itself after the 1st restart, but everything is ok now.
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Jun 20, 2007, 06:50 PM
 
yeah, double restart - installed with safari 3 already installed - working fine so far.
     
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Jun 20, 2007, 06:58 PM
 
Combo updater replaced safari 3 with safari 2.0.4 (Just on 1 machine it is fine on another) and broke UNO on all of them :*(
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Jun 20, 2007, 07:05 PM
 
on my G4, 22 gigs! (oh wait, thats 22 MEGS); not much expected to change.
2 restarts, as mentioned.

still...colors seem more vivid, depth more 3d-like (or maybe thats just the drugs kicking in...)
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Jun 20, 2007, 07:20 PM
 
Did it in full paranoia mode, permissions, verify disk, nothing else running. I didn't go so far as safe mode. Everything seems fine on the ancient G4...!
     
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Jun 20, 2007, 07:49 PM
 
Just Installed and wow runs great and rember kids always repair permissions first then install combo update and repair permissions after the update also and boda boom your done and and have latest and greatest OS X and its awesome
     
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Jun 20, 2007, 08:26 PM
 
Originally Posted by Big-J-Dubb View Post
Just Installed and wow runs great and rember kids always repair permissions first then install combo update and repair permissions after the update also and boda boom your done and and have latest and greatest OS X and its awesome
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That's what MacFixIt recommends.
     
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Jun 20, 2007, 08:45 PM
 
Why would I go to the trouble to install the combo update when Software Update is just right here? That's stupid. How many people actually do that??
     
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Jun 20, 2007, 08:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by awaspaas View Post
Why would I go to the trouble to install the combo update when Software Update is just right here? That's stupid. How many people actually do that??
Its not stupid, because there's been too many occurrences of an update going bad with the delta but working fine with the combo. Combo gives you everything, and if software update got it wrong or if you did something this is the safest approach to applying a fix.
     
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Jun 20, 2007, 09:01 PM
 
So yeah UNO is broken in 10.4.10 it thinks 10.4.10 is older than 10.4.4 anyway I can fool the software into thinking I have 10.4.9 sat least until I have UNO back installed? Then I can change it back after?

I tried editing the UNO applescript where it checks that but it is run-only
     
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Jun 20, 2007, 09:24 PM
 
It's so wasteful to download the combo update. Pretty soon people will be whining about how download speeds are slow with everybody downloading the combo.

I think it's stupid, personally. Just my opinion.
     
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Originally Posted by Big-J-Dubb View Post
Just Installed and wow runs great and rember kids always repair permissions first then install combo update and repair permissions after the update also and boda boom your done and and have latest and greatest OS X and its awesome
I did not know that, I did that on both of my Macs and the list in Disk Util was loooooooong.
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Jun 20, 2007, 10:45 PM
 
I installed the update, and while it still recognizes my USB speaker system (Yamaha AP-U70), nothing now plays through them and I can't select it as the sound output option in System Preferences. Any ideas? I'm on an iMac Core Duo with 2GB RAM. Thanks!
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Jun 21, 2007, 12:53 AM
 
UNO is still fine for me on 2 different machines but I didn't uninstall it before the update. Are you guys saying you can't reapply it?
     
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Jun 21, 2007, 01:15 AM
 
Well what exactly did this update do?
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Originally Posted by awaspaas View Post
I think it's stupid, personally. Just my opinion.
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Jun 21, 2007, 05:20 AM
 
Installed with no problems. Safari 3 and Uno are still go.
     
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Jun 21, 2007, 05:58 AM
 
Installed just fine. Double reboot. Didn't have a combo-bee-bop updater thingy. I'm content so far.
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Jun 21, 2007, 06:13 AM
 
Originally Posted by iz3r View Post
Well what exactly did this update do?
Your sig is way too large. Fix it.

As for 10.4.10... No problems, altough is looks like the volume output of my iMac's speakers is lower again. I think that .9 increased the volume ? It looks to be back to pre-.9 volume. I could be imagining this.

What are the values that you people are seeing in the Audio/Midi config app when the volume is at 1 bar? I'm seeing 0,06 and -48,19dB for both channels.

EDIT: just read on the macrumors forums that other people are experienceing the same problem.

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Originally Posted by nerd View Post
UNO is still fine for me on 2 different machines but I didn't uninstall it before the update. Are you guys saying you can't reapply it?
All my windows are back to the pre-uno state and uno refuses to run for me saying it needs at least 10.4.4 this is on 3 machines
     
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Jun 21, 2007, 07:11 AM
 
Originally Posted by PaperNotes View Post
Installed with no problems. Safari 3 and Uno are still go.
Ditto. Used the Software Update, not Combo.

I had a very long reboot, then a second reboot.
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its installed with no problems!
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my safari keeps quiting on me, it never did this before. Any1 think it may be a compatibility issue with saft and 10.4.10?
     
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Yeap, no problem here either, although MS Word has failed on me twice already.
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After download my PB rebooted twice - no problems here .... MS Word OK by the way.
     
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Also with the new update, it seems like you dont have to hold the eject button for putting the computer to sleep.
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Damn...after updating to 10.4.10 I'm getting seemingly random popping noises from my external speakers. I'm on a 15" MBP, 2.16 C2D; 2GB RAM
     
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Jun 21, 2007, 10:05 PM
 
Installed the combo updater on my 2.16GHz original Core Duo MacBook Pro.
Already had Safari 3 beta installed.

Seems to be running just fine. Don't notice anything different, but nothing is broken as far as I can tell (though I do not use any haxies or skinning add-ons). Safari 3 beta survived the update intact. The update refers to external devices. A 2GB thumb drive and a 160GB USB WD Passport mini hard drive still work as they always did (that is to say they work just fine).

Double boot after the install as typical for the recent crop of updates.

Haven't yet installed on my Mac Pro (I'm presently out of town) or on my wife's 2.0GHz MacBook Core Duo.
     
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Originally Posted by cubbie5150 View Post
Damn...after updating to 10.4.10 I'm getting seemingly random popping noises from my external speakers. I'm on a 15" MBP, 2.16 C2D; 2GB RAM
Look above...

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Originally Posted by cubbie5150 View Post
Damn...after updating to 10.4.10 I'm getting seemingly random popping noises from my external speakers. I'm on a 15" MBP, 2.16 C2D; 2GB RAM
That's a recurring report.

From what I've seen (maybe it was here? I'm too tired to go look) that's the audio clicking on after being powered down; I haven't noticed it yet, will run on battery for a while to see if it happens.
     
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Jun 22, 2007, 11:59 PM
 
I applied the update and security fix, and now my monitor won't work with my AddLogix KVM DVI switch! The keyboard is connected and works, but the monitor stays black.

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Jun 23, 2007, 12:22 AM
 
Uno works just fine here, didn't uninstall it before the update.
     
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Originally Posted by shinji View Post
Uno works just fine here, didn't uninstall it before the update.
Yes it was the combo updater that did it to me

I will never do a combo update again, it seems some things that 10.4.3 fixed ruined uno so since I did the combo it reverted those things again.

I did the combo because I have a few systems with diff versions at that point, but I will just do the updates on each next time

Anyway I edited the "SystemVersion.plist" and installed uno, then changed it back, all is good an UNO is back Waiting for UNO 1.6 because 1.5 ruins iTunes (so save a copy of itunes elsewhere if you install uno with iTunes 7.2)
     
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Jun 23, 2007, 09:20 AM
 
I'm waiting for the Apple OS update that doesn't need another Apple OS update to fix what the first broke.

Does Apple employ any quality assurance personnel, or do they just rely on their early adopters?
     
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Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
I'm waiting for the Apple OS update that doesn't need another Apple OS update to fix what the first broke.

Does Apple employ any quality assurance personnel, or do they just rely on their early adopters?
For the record, I always install the combo updates and have never had a problem.
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Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
I'm waiting for the Apple OS update that doesn't need another Apple OS update to fix what the first broke.

Does Apple employ any quality assurance personnel, or do they just rely on their early adopters?
I have never had a problem with a single OS X update. While I'll agree that Apple's updates are far from bug free, Apple probably bets that most people fall into the problem free category and that it's less costly to let some bugs and incompatibilities through than to get everything completely right on every system and every possible configuration each and every time.
     
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Originally Posted by PowerPC4Ever View Post
I have never had a problem with a single OS X update. While I'll agree that Apple's updates are far from bug free, Apple probably bets that most people fall into the problem free category and that it's less costly to let some bugs and incompatibilities through than to get everything completely right on every system and every possible configuration each and every time.
While it's certainly true that they can't be expected to test for every possible system, you'd think they'd at least be able to test the current generation of systems and 1 or 2 previous generations. I've heard of bug on Intel iMacs, MacBooks, and MBPs for 10.4.9 and 10.4.10. There shouldn't be any bugs on updates for these systems.
     
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Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
I'm waiting for the Apple OS update that doesn't need another Apple OS update to fix what the first broke.

Does Apple employ any quality assurance personnel, or do they just rely on their early adopters?
Yawn. Maybe they just don't test extensively with every 3rd party crapware haxie.
     
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Originally Posted by cubbie5150 View Post
Damn...after updating to 10.4.10 I'm getting seemingly random popping noises from my external speakers. I'm on a 15" MBP, 2.16 C2D; 2GB RAM
I get that too.. grr

this on a 17" iMac C2D. Most annoying. Fix this Apple.

(btw, this is on a no-haxie system)

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