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OAW · Aug 26, 2002, 09:38 PM

I have Jaguar running on an 800 mhz iMac with 768 MB of RAM, and Calculator of all apps is dog slow (just where did that expression come anyway from considering how dogs run very fast?

) Anyway, while I like the new interface and expanded features of Calculator I'm going back to PCalc. Why? Because there is a good half second lag time between clicking a button or pressing a number key and the appearance of the number in the Calculator window. PCalc works instantly the way it should. For such a simple application the only explanation I can think of is lazy programming pure and simple. This is pretty pathetic!

But other than that, and the fact that the VPN client isn't working for me, Jaguar is a really great update!

OAW

argod · Aug 26, 2002, 09:42 PM

If you can do better which I am sure you could.
Why don't you go buy Simson Garfinkel's book
on Cocoa. It shows how to write a calculator.

Guy Incognito · Aug 26, 2002, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by OAW:
Because there is a good half second lag time between clicking a button or pressing a number key and the appearance of the number in the Calculator window.

It's instantaneous on my computer. But do you know how I could fix my 'random freeze' problem? Thanx!

Developer · Aug 26, 2002, 09:48 PM

By the way:

What is 4^0.5 ?

Eddies in the aether · Aug 26, 2002, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by Guy Incognito:

It's instantaneous on my computer. But do you know how I could fix my 'random freeze' problem? Thanx!

I have to agree with the first poster, the jag calculator cannot keep up with even my hunt 'n peck typing.

Kristoff · Aug 26, 2002, 10:17 PM

Use X48.
It's an HP48GX for OS X!!!

Wevah · Aug 26, 2002, 10:47 PM

2

Didn't even have to use a calculator.

superfula · Aug 26, 2002, 10:59 PM

Calculator works great for me. Use it quite a bit. The numbers pop up there instantly here...just as fast as a real calculator

(s)macintosh · Aug 26, 2002, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by superfula:
Calculator works great for me. Use it quite a bit. The numbers pop up there instantly here...just as fast as a real calculator

Same here too, that's odd.

Developer · Aug 26, 2002, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by Wevah:
2

Didn't even have to use a calculator.

Good, but I was trying to make a point, so you should have used it.

mchladek · Aug 26, 2002, 11:08 PM

Calculator's really slow for me too! In fact, I think iChat is 'snappier'

pinlo · Aug 26, 2002, 11:11 PM

Slower than a Java app for me.

JRT · Aug 26, 2002, 11:12 PM

Calculator is pretty slow on my machine as well. G4 500mhz 1.12 gig ram.

I did not to a full clean install though. How about you others slow and fast? Clean or upgrade?

pinlo · Aug 26, 2002, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by JRT:
Clean or upgrade?

Clean.

The Calculator is just a small utility. There's no exuse for it not to be blazing fast on everyone's machine, regardless of their hardware.

Zimphire · Aug 27, 2002, 12:25 AM

The Calculator app must be optimised for 350mhz G3s, cause it works great here. :???:

kman42 · Aug 27, 2002, 12:37 AM

Works great on my G4/867: instant in everything. A little lag on my Lombard.

kman

Chun Hsu · Aug 27, 2002, 12:46 AM

Slow on Powerbook 550 with Jaguar archive install.

ixleo · Aug 27, 2002, 12:52 AM

Same here - when I enter numbers quickly, quite a bit of lag "builds up" on my powerbook 667

jasong · Aug 27, 2002, 12:53 AM

Works fine on a PowerBook G3/400 Pismo. I did a clean install and restored my home folder and applications from a backup rather than the OS X Installer Archive.

-- Jason

Developer · Aug 27, 2002, 08:23 AM

So is 4^0.5 working for everybody else?

Maybe I'm doing something wrong then.

Silky Voice of The Gorn · Aug 27, 2002, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by OAW:
I have Jaguar running on an 800 mhz iMac with 768 MB of RAM, and Calculator of all apps is dog slow...there is a good half second lag time between clicking a button or pressing a number key and the appearance of the number in the Calculator window.

OAW

I believe you are perceiving as slowness is due to the calculator only responding to the buttons on mouse up. That is, if you click on a calc button, it will only register in the display when you release the mouse button. If you use the keyboard, there is a built in delay for each keypress...so there is a cumulative effect of delay if you enter data quickly.

This is definitely a problem which should be fixed, and it's simple; Calculator should accept input on mouse *down*, and have a pref for "flashing" the keys, so there's no wasted animation cycle when entering data quickly (I think flashing each button with the standard blue halo would work fine)

Oneota · Aug 27, 2002, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by Developer:
So is 4^0.5 working for everybody else?

Maybe I'm doing something wrong then.

Works fine for me; hit 4, then the y^x button, then enter 0.5...out pops 2.

Developer · 09:16 AM

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Developer · Aug 27, 2002, 09:15 AM

Since nobody else seemed to have this problem, I tried the usual suspect - Apple's lousy localization. And indeed:

If the number formatting is set to U. S then 4^0.5 yields 2 as the result. Set the number formatting to German and restart Calculator and 4^0,5 is suddenly 1.

Esquare · Aug 27, 2002, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by Developer:
Since nobody else seemed to have this problem, I tried the usual suspect - Apple's lousy localization. And indeed:

If the number formatting is set to U. S then 4^0.5 yields 2 as the result. Set the number formatting to German and restart Calculator and 4^0,5 is suddenly 1.

Yeah, in Dutch I get the same result. In fact 4^0,5 or 9^0,5 or whatever is interpreted as 4^0. Wrong, but it found the answer plenty fast on my QS933 (clean install).

EE

pliny · Aug 27, 2002, 09:53 AM

my calc is terribly slow too. i use it quite a bit.