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aristotles
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Feb 16, 2012, 01:52 AM
 
Facebook CIA connection - YouTube

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I know something about data mining and software related to that. That is all I am willing to say publicly.
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Feb 16, 2012, 07:03 AM
 
Originally Posted by aristotles View Post
I know something about data mining and software related to that. That is all I am willing to say publicly.
Thats ok, I just read the document you wrote on the subject from your hard drive.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Feb 16, 2012, 08:12 AM
 
Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep View Post
Thats ok, I just read the document you wrote on the subject from your hard drive.
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Feb 17, 2012, 02:47 AM
 
Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep View Post
Thats ok, I just read the document you wrote on the subject from your hard drive.
Not bloody likely. Who is this ryan42 person? Is that a friend of yours or an alias?

The software we use at work is even more sophisticated than a few google searches anyone can do. I suspect that those three letter acronym agencies in the US use something similar.
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Feb 19, 2012, 05:48 PM
 
I watched it. Still not scared. It seems to be a fad these days for insignificant people all over the media & web to bash facebook for the potential to "share" their info, which mostly consists of stupid one-liners and pictures of them holding shots up with their friends. I always laugh when Im listening to one of those "young professional" types talk about how big and important they are what an important job they have and how facebook and all its stalkers are out to ruin it for them.

Look, I have a facebook; I post whenever I go on vacation, and nobody's ever going to rob my house when Im gone; because I don't post my address, and Im not friends with any thieves. It's very simple, you don't want fb or its affiliates to have access to your trivial info, then don't post it.

Now if you guys want something to be absolutely terrified of, it should be the banks and credit reporting agencies. These companies actually have your social, a record of every bill you ever had, bank numbers, dl number and much more, everything one needs to steal your identity... And they sell or mail it to any thug who wants it.

As for people who are scared the big bad fb will sell info to the CIA, they're all behind the times. The government already has access to everything you do that involves a computer including all your email. Back when I worked for the government they already had a pretty sophisticated system in place that was building a profile on everyone, in the world. I don't know how long they've been building profiles but it been in place before 9/11. The crap yall post on facebook is the least of your worries.
     
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Feb 21, 2012, 01:45 AM
 
Dull, boring statistical data can be found through other means so they really don't need Facebook for that. What Facebook does provide are your political beliefs, opinions and help any intelligence agency build a psychological profile.

I suppose the best advice I can give is to make sure that you are comfortable knowing that what you share could end up in a file about you and if you insist on sharing it, be authentic, be yourself. The last thing you want is to have a psychological profile base on a fake persona.

The other "goldmine" Facebook provides is who your friends and family are and how they are related to you (ie. co-workers, relatives, old school chums, old college buddies). That is even more valuable to intelligence agencies than what you "post" and share. Your meta data can say even more about you than what you say about yourself.

I have not made contact with some of the people in my class from high school because of some "trouble" that I heard they got into and I don't need that sort of thing in my "network" of associates. I need to keep a clean profile in the line of business I'm in.
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Feb 21, 2012, 02:23 PM
 
Originally Posted by aristotles View Post
Dull, boring statistical data can be found through other means so they really don't need Facebook for that. What Facebook does provide are your political beliefs, opinions and help any intelligence agency build a psychological profile.
So if you're a terrorist don't post your insane political beliefs; probably not a good idea to email them, or talk about them in public either.
I suppose the best advice I can give is to make sure that you are comfortable knowing that what you share could end up in a file about you and if you insist on sharing it, be authentic, be yourself. The last thing you want is to have a psychological profile base on a fake persona.
Everything you post on the internet, say on the phone, and every transaction you do that involves a computer could end up in a file about you. I hope everyone realizes even though it's illegal to tap phone calls randomly, just about every office of the military does it anyway.
The other "goldmine" Facebook provides is who your friends and family are and how they are related to you (ie. co-workers, relatives, old school chums, old college buddies). That is even more valuable to intelligence agencies than what you "post" and share.
It's easy to find out who you're related to without facebook; ancestry.com knows all your family... I once went to a casino in a 3rd world country and when registering they quickly printed a paper with all my relatives, some people I didn't even know, and even a few of my closest friends, they said "we just do this to verify who you are" but really it's a common intimidation tactic. A bank has done this to me as well. As it stands more people have been incriminated by emails they sent than fb messages.

I have not made contact with some of the people in my class from high school because of some "trouble" that I heard they got into and I don't need that sort of thing in my "network" of associates. I need to keep a clean profile in the line of business I'm in.
This is a good rule of thumb regardless of what business you're in. Why would anyone want to be associated with criminals on fb or any other place? If you're associated with a high profile criminal it doesn't matter whether your fb friends or not the government will find out simply by following them around or tapping phone calls. So many people have those 400 friend counts, having a bad guy on your friend list isn't going to raise any red flags w/ government; they're too lazy to drill through all that, there's easier methods.

Any information the CIA gets from my fb will only be a dent compared to what they already have.
     
   
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