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Looks Arab or Mexican to me. Still what is classified as a "person of color".
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
I'm glad there's no racism going on at the anti-Trump rallies in California...




The white balance is off just on the one sign.
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Apr 30, 2016, 11:27 PM
 
May not be from the same card stock, and it's facing a different direction relative to the sun.
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May 1, 2016, 09:59 AM
 
This seems like getting worked up over another random, crazy, anecdotal, and non-systemic thing with no real solution, Tightpants.
     
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Hillary Clinton, first woman President of the United States.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
This seems like getting worked up over another random, crazy, anecdotal, and non-systemic thing with no real solution, Tightpants.
I figure you'll copy paste that enough times to finally realize that it isn't nearly as isolated as you want to think. (Or is that being overly optimistic?)
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May 1, 2016, 01:24 PM
 
How about we make Mexico Aztec again.
     
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I'm putting forth a theory based on some observations:

Assumptions:
1. Most western nations (US, EU, AUNZ) are aging societies.
2. All of these nations have implemented some form of (to varying degree), what you in the US call the "new deal". (Workers of today pay for the pensions of yesterday's workers).
3. As people age, in general, they move from the left to conservatism.
4. So the trend is a decreasing number of younger (who tend to be leftist) voters and an increasing number of older (conservative) voters.

Theory:
I wonder if the above reasons are why the "leftists" in most western nations have permitted and encouraged the level of ILLEGAL(law breaking) immigration, in the hopes of eventual "amnesty" and thus shoring up their voters bases, and for shoring up their state pension/insurance schemes, which are based on an unrealistic formula from almost a century ago. There's even been a recent debate in Australia about lowering the voting age to 16 for probably the same reasons outlined above (and i wouldn't be surprised if the 'left' is championing it).

In doing so, this would effectively destroy the entire premise for a democracy, not to mention facilitate the cultural demise of nations (worse in the US due to the incomprehensible stalemate on the issue of voter id laws). From what i've read, it seems to me that Japan is the only nation today which still values it's indigenous cultural uniqueness and heritage, and seeks to preserve it through enforcing policies which protect it. IMHO
     
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May 1, 2016, 02:23 PM
 
I encourage law breaking immigration here because I think our current system is unjust.

Most illegal immigrants don't vote libertarian, so it's most definitely not to shore up my voter base.

That said, my voter base isn't known for complaining about cheap labor.
     
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May 1, 2016, 05:28 PM
 
My brother in law is from Mexico. He recently became a citizen and registered Republican. He regularly posts from right wing websites. Go figure. Another thing to take into consideration is most of the illegals from Mexico and Central America are Catholic.
     
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May 1, 2016, 09:49 PM
 
@subego
IMO That reeks of anarchism, not libertarianism. (I consider myself a libertarian, but i would never consider breaking the law, nor encouraging others to do so).

@Chongo
My previous post has nothing to do with color or national origin, but legal vs illegal. I am all in favor for *legal* immigration.

If one believes in open borders circa pre 1920s(?) then take it to a referendum, go through the legal system and change the system that way.
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i would never consider breaking the law
     
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May 2, 2016, 11:37 AM
 
I consider breaking it at least 3-4 times a day. (More if I'm driving an exotic.)
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Originally Posted by Monique View Post
Hillary Clinton, first woman President of the United States.
OH SHIT YOU GUYS IT'S MONIQUE!! all caps
     
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May 2, 2016, 02:08 PM
 
Signs point to Trump winning tomorrow. Even if Cruz were to eak out a victory, the margin wouldn't be what #nevertrump needs or is looking for. I can't believe it but Trump looks like he'll make it.
     
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Left------------Center-----------Right
Bernie,Hillary---------------Trump,Cruz

Would that be a fair assessment?

I think the center most candidates will go to the election (ie Trump and Hillary).

Having said that, I wonder how many democrat voters will shift sides to support Trump, specifically in the North East. While I agree with Cruz on most policy, I think Trump is more "electable".

My opinion, on why the "left" are so scared of Trump:
After 8 years of executive fiat for policies they championed (despite the flagrant disregard of process), they are now coming to the realization of what setting that president means, now that someone from the other side of the political isle will take the same liberties.

Described here:
     
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He should have done that 3 months ago... frequently...
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May 3, 2016, 07:54 PM
 
It's over. Trump will have the delegates, and barring the most naked of power grabs, Trump has the nom.
     
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Om nom nom.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Om nom nom.
Favorite son the Don has won and will get the nom then drop the bomb.
     
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Cruz out. Somehow Kasich still hasn't.
     
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Gross thought: Trump gets assassinated between now and the convention.
     
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May 3, 2016, 10:43 PM
 
If Trump were to get slightly wing'd by a "crazy" I'd be somewhat suspicious that the "crazy" wasn't in Trump's own payroll.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Gross thought: Trump gets assassinated between now and the convention.
Shaddim said the same thing about Obama.
     
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
Shaddim said the same thing about Obama.
Difference is, a large chunk of the GOP
hate Trump, and they'd theoretically stand to benefit from it.

I also think Obama surviving all eight years in office is an achievement of some sort.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Difference is, a large chunk of the GOP
hate Trump, and they'd theoretically stand to benefit from it.

I also think Obama surviving all eight years in office is an achievement of some sort.

and we still aren't all eating cat food!


Well, except for turtle777, but that's because he likes cat food.
     
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May 4, 2016, 10:19 AM
 
HOT TAKE: Cruzs collapse on the polls isn't indicative of a sudden loss of support but a repudiation of the establishments attempt to create and manipulate a contested convention.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Difference is, a large chunk of the GOP
hate Trump, and they'd theoretically stand to benefit from it.

I also think Obama surviving all eight years in office is an achievement of some sort.
Credit Biden as VP for that.

"In Living Color" did a skit on POTUS Jesse Jackson's final press conference. He survived eight years by doing what his predecessors had done, kept Dan Qualyle as VP


And he "Kept Hope Alive!
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
HOT TAKE: Cruzs collapse on the polls isn't indicative of a sudden loss of support but a repudiation of the establishments attempt to create and manipulate a contested convention.
He didn't Fiorina himself?
     
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No, that was a reaction to the collapse in progress.
     
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Nate Silver ‏@NateSilver538 7m7 minutes ago
Big spike in Google searches for Gary Johnson. Google Trends
Heh.
     
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I'm generally against this type of name calling, yet I couldn't help but chuckle at "Christie Creme".

(Yes, I know this is late to the party)
     
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
Shaddim said the same thing about Obama.
Just proves it's not the crazies on the Right you have to worry about, it's the ones on the Left.
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
Just proves it's not the crazies on the Right you have to worry about, it's the ones on the Left.
What 'proves'?
     
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Like the left owns enough guns to make it happen.
     
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They'd kill him with kindness.
     
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As an aside, his restaurant in the Chicago Trump Tower whips up some pretty frigging tasty food. I'd actually say it's one of the best restaurants in the city.
     
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As an aside, his restaurant in the Chicago Trump Tower whips up some pretty frigging tasty food. I'd actually say it's one of the best restaurants in the city.
As many times as I've worked on projects in downtown Chicago I've never actually stepped foot in Trump Tower there.

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On a bitter note, I can't wait for the media to try and manufacture the race into being competitive for ratings.
     
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The Bushes and Romney not endorsing him is a plus on his cred.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
What 'proves'?
Historically, the radical Left are much more likely to attempt an assassination.
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Why did Romney loose? He didn't "play dirty".... unlike the incumbent. While admirable, that apparently carries little weight with the electorate. Something tells me, Trump won't hold back. It's going to be an exciting election to say the least.

Anyone know how much Trump spent in the primaries?
     
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I recall hearing he didn't spend very much, he got tons of free publicity by being outrageous.
     
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a View Post
Why did Romney loose? He didn't "play dirty".... unlike the incumbent.
Let's set aside the fact that defeating an incumbent POTUS is extremely difficult any way you slice it. With Romney you had a GOP candidate that the ESTABLISHMENT preferred but the BASE was lukewarm about at best. Demographic trends that were not in the GOP's favor. And the self-inflicted wound of his infamous "47%" speech on top of all that. Absolutely no "playing dirty" required nor done. He just got beat. Handily.

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I'd add the guy's heart wasn't really in it.
     
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He'd planned his whole career on building up to POTUS, I think his heart was in it.
     
 
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