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Jan 17, 2005, 10:54 AM
 
Read here.

Remember when the first CEO of McDonald's died suddenly of a heart attack - while at a convention here in Florida?

This guy stepped into the position to run the company. Then he's diagnosed with colorectal cancer. Now he's dead too. Both of them died at young ages.

Reminds me of that movie Supersize Me where the guy's health went downhill terribly in only 30 days because he lived on McDonalds.

The third CEO must be shaking in his shoes.

     
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Jan 17, 2005, 11:17 AM
 
I doubt anyone with that kind if money even steps foot into one of their restaurants to eat, I know I sure wouldn't.
     
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Jan 17, 2005, 12:04 PM
 
I disagree, actually. I remember when the first CEO died how the newspapers eulogized him and they talked about how he LOVED the food at McDonalds and ate it frequently.

Charlie Bell, the guy that took over and just died of cancer, worked at McDonald's for a very long time before moving up in the company. Cancers, especially colon cancer, sometimes start years earlier.

That's why screening is so important.

You guys out there, get a colonoscopy done at 40. They say to get it done at 50, but a lot of men develop it in their late 30s and early 40s. It's a very common cancer. A colonoscopy is THE easiest procedure. You drink a lemonade flavored drink the night before, go in the next morning, they lightly sedate you, it takes about 30 minutes total and you're out of there within an hour. Health insurance will pay for it. If you have a polyp, which is what becomes cancerous, they remove it - along with your risk for cancer.
     
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Jan 17, 2005, 12:11 PM
 
Originally posted by Cody Dawg:
I disagree, actually. I remember when the first CEO died how the newspapers eulogized him and they talked about how he LOVED the food at McDonalds and ate it frequently.

Charlie Bell, the guy that took over and just died of cancer, worked at McDonald's for a very long time before moving up in the company. Cancers, especially colon cancer, sometimes start years earlier.

That's why screening is so important.

You guys out there, get a colonoscopy done at 40. They say to get it done at 50, but a lot of men develop it in their late 30s and early 40s. It's a very common cancer. A colonoscopy is THE easiest procedure. You drink a lemonade flavored drink the night before, go in the next morning, they lightly sedate you, it takes about 30 minutes total and you're out of there within an hour. Health insurance will pay for it. If you have a polyp, which is what becomes cancerous, they remove it - along with your risk for cancer.
But... but... they stick something UP YOUR ASS!
     
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Jan 17, 2005, 12:15 PM
 
Originally posted by willed:
But... but... they stick something UP YOUR ASS!
don't they have some kind of new way of checking that without doing the deed?

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Jan 17, 2005, 12:29 PM
 
Here's a tacky question: would you rather have a male or a female doctor check that department?
     
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Jan 17, 2005, 12:31 PM
 
Originally posted by GoGoReggieXPowars:
I doubt anyone with that kind if money even steps foot into one of their restaurants to eat, I know I sure wouldn't.
McDonald's headquarters is in Oakbrook, which is just outside of Chicago. This is where McDonald's executives work. At the headquarters they have what is called Hamburger University - where they train all aspects of McDonald's management. When I was younger, a friend's father worked at McDonald's headquarters and took us there one day. McDonald's executives do not have to step foot into one of their restaurants to eat - they have access to all of McDonald's menu items at their headquarters - which they do eat.
     
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Jan 17, 2005, 12:51 PM
 
Originally posted by f1000:
Here's a tacky question: would you rather have a male or a female doctor check that department?
Both..
At the same time..

Oh yeah
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Jan 17, 2005, 01:11 PM
 
I tend to wonder more how a doctor decides to specialize in that field. I mean, does it come as an epiphany one day: "I want to look up people's assholes all day!"?

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Jan 17, 2005, 01:12 PM
 
Originally posted by Cody Dawg:
I disagree, actually. I remember when the first CEO died how the newspapers eulogized him and they talked about how he LOVED the food at McDonalds and ate it frequently.
Yuck.
     
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Jan 17, 2005, 01:16 PM
 
Beth preventative for colon cancer is adequate fibre in your diet. A bowl of porridge for breakfast should do the trick. Added benefit is that oats lower your cholesterol.
     
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Jan 17, 2005, 01:26 PM
 
Originally posted by tooki:
I tend to wonder more how a doctor decides to specialize in that field. I mean, does it come as an epiphany one day: "I want to look up people's assholes all day!"?

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Jan 17, 2005, 01:43 PM
 
Originally posted by f1000:
Here's a tacky question: would you rather have a male or a female doctor check that department?
I would prefer to be under such heavy sedation that I neither knew nor cared about the doctor's gender.
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Jan 17, 2005, 02:00 PM
 
Originally posted by tooki:
I tend to wonder more how a doctor decides to specialize in that field. I mean, does it come as an epiphany one day: "I want to look up people's assholes all day!"?
It's got to be for the license plate.
     
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Jan 17, 2005, 02:07 PM
 
Originally posted by starman:
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Cha-ching.
also add "lack of middle of the night emergencies" to that list
     
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Jan 17, 2005, 02:22 PM
 
Originally posted by f1000:
Here's a tacky question: would you rather have a male or a female doctor check that department?
I know that a prostate check goes better with a female. It's easier to relax, and, they tend to have smaller fingers.
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Jan 17, 2005, 02:46 PM
 
Actually, it's not that bad and "ka-ching" is the operative word here.

By the time you drink the sodium solution that cleans out your ENTIRE intestinal tract that part of your body is no different than looking down your throat and into your stomach for ulcers (opposite end) and it is worth it.

Think of it another way: Would you rather undergo a once-in-ten-years-procedure or endure cancer in that area of your body? Seriously? It's much more common than people think.

As far as eating fiber, you're absolutely correct. It's extremely important. But, if you eat a lot of red meat or processed foods, or have irritable bowel syndrome, then your risk is much higher than you might expect. Also, it's more common in men for some reason.

McDonald's headquarters is in Oakbrook, which is just outside of Chicago. This is where McDonald's executives work. At the headquarters they have what is called Hamburger University - where they train all aspects of McDonald's management. When I was younger, a friend's father worked at McDonald's headquarters and took us there one day. McDonald's executives do not have to step foot into one of their restaurants to eat - they have access to all of McDonald's menu items at their headquarters - which they do eat.
waxcrash, you always seem to have the inside scoop on everything, don't you? Amazing.

     
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Jan 17, 2005, 02:58 PM
 
Originally posted by Millennium:
I would prefer to be under such heavy sedation that I neither knew nor cared about the doctor's gender.
     
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Jan 17, 2005, 10:06 PM
 
Originally posted by Cody Dawg:
You drink a lemonade flavored drink the night before
Lemonade flavored it is NOT!
     
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Jan 17, 2005, 10:45 PM
 
I had a colonoscopy done four years ago, just before I had my gallbladder removed. They gave me a sedative, and I was out. I barely remember the doctor starting, and then, the next thing I knew, I was in the recovery room. Males should have it done after 50, just to be safe.
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Jan 18, 2005, 03:03 AM
 
if i have some blood in my fecal matter, does it mean i have something?

it's red colored, and dyes the water a reddish color. this tells me the blood is recent, otherwise it'd turn a purplish black right? red means it's still oxygenated.


i'm not going to lie and say "it didnt happen to me, it happens to a friend of a friend"

it does happen to me. not often, but a few times a year (under 20 times a year?)

any idea if this is something to worry about?

keep in mind, i'm 21, and not insured so i will not go to the doctor unless it's very likely to be something. there are people to go to the doctor for the most minor issues and discomforts because it is covered by insurance. I have none, and even a minor check up means cash out of my wallet.


thanks =P

and please no teasing comments about this, let's be a bit more mature than that.

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Jan 18, 2005, 08:10 AM
 
What do you mean, you're not insured? Go and see somebody about this as soon as possible. Blood in faecal matter is nothing to laugh about.

On the other hand, are you sure it's blood? Is there a correlation between what you eat and when this happens? Undigested berries, etc?
     
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Jan 18, 2005, 08:22 AM
 
Originally posted by Mastrap:
Beth preventative for colon cancer is adequate fibre in your diet. A bowl of porridge for breakfast should do the trick. Added benefit is that oats lower your cholesterol.
True that.

But what I want to know is, who is Beth and what's the association that let you accidentally slip her name into that sentence?
     
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Jan 18, 2005, 08:30 AM
 
Originally posted by Mastrap:
What do you mean, you're not insured?
That's something that can happen in non-socialist upstanding non-Commie redneck countries.

I know, it seems bizarre.
     
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Jan 18, 2005, 08:33 AM
 
You might have something as innocuous as hemorrhoids, or you might have something far worse; blood in the stool isn't normal.

This is something you should get checked out as soon as possible.
     
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Jan 18, 2005, 09:55 AM
 
Lancer409:

It's not something to get really worked up about, but you do need to get it checked out. Go to the ER the next time it happens. They will do a work-up on you.

It can be something as simple as irritable bowel syndrome, which our 4-year old gets once in a while, or something more serious.

To be honest, I doubt it is something very serious. I think it's irritable bowel syndrome. What you're describing is the same thing our 4-year old gets and that is what it is. You're very young and most colon cancer issues occur with people who are older. Try to keep a food diary and note what you were/are eating when it happens and the next time you have this happen, go to the ER, a good one. They won't refuse to see you and you can say, "Bill me. I don't have insurance." If you are unemployed they may send a social worker to visit you and sign you up for Medicaid. If you qualify for it then be happy. If not, then you can pay the ER bill as you are able.

Are you in college? If so, the colleges have really inexpensive student insurance programs. Get on one. They are relatively inexpensive.

Just get it checked out. Colon cancer is highly curable when caught early.

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Jan 18, 2005, 10:20 AM
 
Originally posted by Cody Dawg:
Are you in college? If so, the colleges have really inexpensive student insurance programs. Get on one. They are relatively inexpensive.
If he picks up an insurance plan now, and then immediately goes to see a doctor about his problem, won't the insurance company consider it a pre-existing condition?
     
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Jan 18, 2005, 11:32 AM
 
Who cares if it's pre-existing?

It is intermittent. He hasn't seen anyone. He is fine in between. I think there is a 30-day waiting period for some insurances to kick in and since he's fine he can buy it, wait 30 days, then go. Who will really know it is pre-existing?

I mean, if this would be a pre-existing condition then a LOT of people would not have valid insurance. Cancer, for example, sometimes lies dormant for years. It's there, just not causing a problem. It could be classified as a pre-existing condition, I suppose, also.

     
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Jan 18, 2005, 12:39 PM
 
As a senior medical student, I would honestly advise you to consult a doctor. Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS) is, by definition, NOT associated with blood in the stools. Of course, like someone mentionned, the most probable explanation is hemorroids, which are common at your age. However, Inflammatory Bowel Diseases (IBD) like Crohn's Disease and Ulcerative Colitis tend to appear during the 3RD DECADE of life and, unlike IBS, are associated with blood in the stools, even bright red if the lesion is in the rectum or the sigmoid.

IBD are frequently associated with weird extra-GI symptoms including: uveitis, episcleritis (eye redness), arthralgia, ...

So, like I said, the most probable explanation is hemorroids, but I would consult to be sure.

Originally posted by Lancer409:
if i have some blood in my fecal matter, does it mean i have something?

it's red colored, and dyes the water a reddish color. this tells me the blood is recent, otherwise it'd turn a purplish black right? red means it's still oxygenated.


i'm not going to lie and say "it didnt happen to me, it happens to a friend of a friend"

it does happen to me. not often, but a few times a year (under 20 times a year?)

any idea if this is something to worry about?

keep in mind, i'm 21, and not insured so i will not go to the doctor unless it's very likely to be something. there are people to go to the doctor for the most minor issues and discomforts because it is covered by insurance. I have none, and even a minor check up means cash out of my wallet.


thanks =P

and please no teasing comments about this, let's be a bit more mature than that.
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There you go: Only at MacNN do you get great medical advice from a qualified person.

     
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Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
That's something that can happen in non-socialist upstanding non-Commie redneck countries.

I know, it seems bizarre.
I can't afford health insurance. I'm a full time student working full time and barely have enough for my insurance, rent, and bills. Tacking on another $140 a month is impossible.
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Originally posted by coconut:
... like Cronh's Disease ...
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How common is IBS?

I've had it for over a decade. (I'm 35). BTW: I had a colonoscopy at 28. They removed 2 polyps at the time.
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This reminds me of When Tutankhamen's tomb was supposed to be cursed because all of the archeologists including Howard Carter died at Young ages.

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Jan 18, 2005, 10:46 PM
 
Originally posted by Lancer409:
if i have some blood in my fecal matter, does it mean i have something?

it's red colored, and dyes the water a reddish color. this tells me the blood is recent, otherwise it'd turn a purplish black right? red means it's still oxygenated.


i'm not going to lie and say "it didnt happen to me, it happens to a friend of a friend"

it does happen to me. not often, but a few times a year (under 20 times a year?)

any idea if this is something to worry about?

keep in mind, i'm 21, and not insured so i will not go to the doctor unless it's very likely to be something. there are people to go to the doctor for the most minor issues and discomforts because it is covered by insurance. I have none, and even a minor check up means cash out of my wallet.


thanks =P

and please no teasing comments about this, let's be a bit more mature than that.
I'd say try to get a docter to consult you for free, like just walk in and ask one if they answer without asking for payment its free.
     
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nm, old topic
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