[KCrosbie]

Wasn't able to get on till late last night, but here are my first impressions after about an hour's worth of multiplayer:

- I found it much easier to kill someone with the pistol once you've been downed. Got a ton of kills that way.

- The spawning locations are pretty bad. In one game on the Nuke Town map, our team just spawn f*cked the hell out of the opponents. We won like 7500 to 1600. It was a slaughter.

- I ran into the dogs and there were like 5 of them. Managed to take two of them out but got killed by 3 of them while reloading. Dogs suck.

- Shottys as a primary weapon is horrible and I don't think anyone is going to like.

- Calling in a helicopter isn't as powerful as in MW2. I was running around in the open with an enemy chopper in sight and it had trouble targeting me.

I'm off work today and tomorrow so what time you guys gonna be on?

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by KCrosbie 

- The spawning locations are pretty bad. In one game on the Nuke Town map, our team just spawn f*cked the hell out of the opponents. We won like 7500 to 1600. It was a slaughter.

I predict everyone begins voting against Nuke Town within two weeks.

- Shottys as a primary weapon is horrible and I don't think anyone is going to like.

Must bet to satiate the "shotguns are cheating" crowd.

- Calling in a helicopter isn't as powerful as in MW2. I was running around in the open with an enemy chopper in sight and it had trouble targeting me.

Definitely. It almost has to be lined up with you perfectly to fire off a shot.

[The Final Dakar]

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

I thought I recalled someone joking about that during a match once. We spent a minute or two trying to identify your ethnicity through your avatar.

My avatar identifies me as a cracker with Irish roots who probably listens to Coldplay.

Maybe we made fun of you, I don't remember. But I'm currently wearing a crown, monocle and pirate shirt, so i don't see how that clues you into this game.

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

???

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar 

A Fourth was two small and only two spawn zones, to the point where I was killing people who just spawned and having their teammates spawning behind me.

Nuke Town

Originally Posted by KCrosbie 

Calling in a helicopter isn't as powerful as in MW2. I was running around in the open with an enemy chopper in sight and it had trouble targeting me.

That's great part. I must have played 10 games with Ghost, running around with impunity when helicopters were out, and didn't get fired at. Of course, in the game I learned that, I got spawn killed by the helicopter after it killed me for running out in the open.

And yeah, it might be weaker than the Attack Copter from MW2, which is weaker than the the Attack Copter from CoD4. What idiots.

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar 

Maybe we made fun of you, I don't remember.

Easy target.

But I'm currently wearing a crown, monocle and pirate shirt, so i don't see how that clues you into this game.

Forget it.

And yeah, it might be weaker than the Attack Copter from MW2, which is weaker than the the Attack Copter from CoD4. What idiots.

This always makes me think of my friend who refuses to play CoD multiplayer because "the killstreaks make the game unfair." It seems obvious that they've weakened the killstreaks, possibly in response to people like this. I've heard plenty of people complain about them before (though just as many in favor).

I've always liked them. It gives you something to work for.

[Jawbone54]

Treyarch Issues Stern Warning to Black Ops Cheaters

Like any new multiplayer game adopted by millions of people at once, unscrupulous players have already found a few exploits and glitches in Call of Duty: Black Ops. Treyarch isn't taking the matter sitting down, but doesn't want to give fame to the cheaters either.

"What many of these people want is to be Internet nerd famous," wrote multiplayer director David Vonderhaar on the Call of Duty forums. "I'm not going to make them famous and you shouldn't either ... Given the opportunity, I'd personally wield the ban hammer for anyone who thinks he is clever by abusing any glitches. Good think [sic] I don't have the opportunity that often and we actually have a constructive, measured, and well-managed live ops team."

"We said we would support the game. We are going to support it," he said. "We are disinterested in making mini-celebrities out of douche-bags. You better think twice before you glitch. You never know who in your game doesn't like glitchers who reports you and saves the game in their File Share and tells us about it."

[The Final Dakar]

Here's the thing - Weakening Killstreaks and Removing them from counting as streaks is a double-nerf. A triple nerf if you count the decline of the heli from CoD4.

No one complained about the Attack Heli being too strong in MW2. And hilariously, it counting towards killsreaks was almost a on-factor because it sucked so much. 1 out of 5 times it would go massacre 4-5 people instead of 0-1. It was notoriously unreliable.

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar 

Here's the thing - Weakening Killstreaks and Removing them from counting as streaks is a double-nerf. A triple nerf if you count the decline of the heli from CoD4.

Does it also seem like there are more indoor spaces to seek refuge in as well?

[The Final Dakar]

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

Does it also seem like there are more indoor spaces to seek refuge in as well?

I'm not sure I've even played all the maps yet, but I would say it always depends on the setting. Doesn't seem different than MW2.

Edit: Honestly some of the maps seem reminiscent of older maps (Like Cracked and Crossfire)

[KCrosbie]

It seems that the codes for the avatar outfits that came with the Hardened and Prestige editions only worked with male avatars. Treyarch's response: universal outfit codes for female avatars...

SR 71 Flight Suit: GYVF8-PF7RY-28D7V-VGWV8-CFGRM

Woods Outfit: R76BQ-CR3MF-G2TTF-9G36R-BQWJD

Get your female avatars ready.

[The Final Dakar]

Is there something we should know about you?

[The Final Dakar]

Just looked at the map of Nuke Town (Which is the new Rust, only worse)). I marked the spawns as I understood them.



That means I could be in either house and the enemy can spawn in circle nearest me.

Also, did anyone even go farther right than the center of the map? The part looked neglected.

[KCrosbie]

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar 

Is there something we should know about you?

Yeah, I have an alternate live account where I pose as a chick to get responses from males. I'm using it to write my psychology thesis about sexual harassment in internet gaming...

LOL, freaky! I bet someone has done that.

[The Final Dakar]

Originally Posted by KCrosbie 

Yeah, I have an alternate live account where I pose as a chick to get responses from males. I'm using it to write my psychology thesis about sexual harassment in internet gaming...

...and your most frequent gentleman caller is name cigarguy.

*cue banjo*

*involuntary shiver*

[KCrosbie]

Dakar, the lower left hand corner of the map is exactly where we spawn camped our opponents.

[KCrosbie]

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar 

...and your most frequent gentleman caller is name cigarguy.

*cue banjo*

*involuntary shiver*

Here's cigarguy:

[KCrosbie]

Oh I forgot to mention, the single player campaign is pretty cool. I've played the first 4 levels and there's a lot of mayhem. Riding motorcycles, taking out tanks in a vehicle, ziplining, etc. Out of all of the CODs, I think this has an actual ok storyline.

It's got president Kennedy, Fidel Castro and a special return of a kick ass Russian from WaW. 'nuff said.

edit: Oh and I do believe that's Ice Cube voicing one of the characters.

[Stogieman]

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar 

...and your most frequent gentleman caller is name cigarguy.

*cue banjo*

*involuntary shiver*

Well played sir... well played.

[The Final Dakar]

Originally Posted by KCrosbie 

Here's cigarguy:

[img]fat dude[/img]

You're... not exactly current on your brother's MacNN handle, are you?

[KCrosbie]

LOL... I get it.

I guess I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed.

[The Final Dakar]

Originally Posted by Stogieman 

Well played sir... well played.

I wish I could take the credit, but your brother unknowingly sold you out.

[rubberwheels]

Well everyone loved this game. the day after, half of my class was missing. i assumed they were playing black ops. my class had a majority of males.

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by rubberwheels 

Well everyone loved this game. the day after, half of my class was missing. i assumed they were playing black ops. my class had a majority of males.

These are the guys that I'm seeing ranked 35 already.

[The Final Dakar]

I'm trying to figure out how over 1,000 people had Prestiged by the time I got home last night. Euros and early reviewers?

[sek929]

I played until I reached lvl 30 last night.

Nuke Town is a goddamn abortion of a map, yet last night it was voted for more than any other map, at one point I played it 4 times in a row.

The revolver pistol is actually useful, and after unlocking the SPAS I find shotguns to be slightly more useful than before.

The AK74u SMG w/grip and extended mags is a great CQB weapon. Right now I alternate between the FAMAS class for lager maps and the AK74u for smaller maps.

[The Final Dakar]

Yeah, I saw when I got up you had just finished playing 4 hours before.

After the treasured "First to prestige" prize?

[sek929]

Maybe, more like just got really into it and couldn't put the game down.

[Jawbone54]

Gag...I'm not going to be able to get on until about 10:00 CST tonight. You guys will probably be wrapping up again.

[The Final Dakar]

Originally Posted by sek929 

Maybe, more like just got really into it and couldn't put the game down.

Running away from halo's outstretched arms faster and faster.

I'll likely be one of the later ones to Prestige. I won't be on much after tomorrow with some family visiting. Dumb family.

[Mrjinglesusa]

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar 

I won't be on much after tomorrow with some family visiting. Dumb family.

I hear that. My parents got in yesterday - same day game showed up on my doorstep. I haven't even gotten it out of shrinkwrap yet and probably won't be able to until Sunday.

[Jawbone54]

Looks like I just stumbled into some late-afternoon free time. I'm about to go hunt through the menus to see what I'm missing.

[The Final Dakar]

Pro Perk Challenge List. Bullshit in bold.

Lightweight Challenges:
Escape death 5 times after being shot
Get 15 melee kills
Get 10 offense medals by killing ops near their objectives

Scavenger Challenges:
Get 2 kills without dying
Get 10 lethal grenade kills with resupplied grenades
Resupply 150 times with scavenger

Ghost Challenges:
Destroy 30 aircraft with any non-Killstreak launcher
Destroy 5 sentry guns
Kill 20 enemies while their spy plane or blackbird is up

Flak Jacket Challenges:
Plant/defuse 10 bombs in demolition
Survive 10 explosions
Throw back 5 enemy grenades

Hardline Challenges:
Earn and call in attack dogs
Get a 7 killstreak
Share 10 care packages with teammates

Hardened Challenges:
Get 30 kills through walls
Destroy 10 pieces of enemy equipment through walls
Shoot 200 bullets into enemy aircraft

Scout Challenges:
Get 30 headshots
Get 50 one shot one kills
Get 50 kills with secondary weapons

Steady Aim Challenges:
Get 150 hip-fire kills
Melee 2 enemies consecutively 3 times
Get 100 kills after sprinting

Sleight of Hand Challenges:
Get 150 kills while ADS
Reload and finish off the enemy you wounded 10 times (shoot, reload, kill X10)
Kill an enemy within 5 seconds of reloading 30 times

Warlord Challenges:
Get 25 frag or semtex kills
Get 5 multi-kills with grenades
Get 150 kills using guns with two attachments

Marathon Challenges:
Capture 15 flags
Get first blood 10 times
Run 26 miles using marathon

Ninja Challenges:
Get 15 backstabber medals
Plant the bomb in search and destroy 10 times
Get 150 kills using the suppressor attachment

Second Chance Challenges:
Get 3 headshot kills in second chance
Get 20 kills in second chance
In second chance, kill the guy who downed you 5 times

Hacker Challenges:
Destroy 25 equipment or explosives using hacker
Kill an enemy with claymores or c4 25 times
Kill 25 enemies within jammer or motion sensor radius

Tactical Mask Challenges:
Kill 20 enemies that are stunned by your concussion grenade
Kill 20 flashbanged enemies by your flashbang
Kill 20 enemies poisoned by your nova gas

[Jawbone54]

Found the stats, but it will only list them according to game type.

[The Final Dakar]

Yeah, those aren't the stats you think they are.

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar 

The Stats System (Early impressions)
This, like the UI system is needlessly cluttered. On top of that there seem to be some nonsensical stats being tracked. This of itself isn't bad until you realize its supplanted some pretty standard info.

As of right now there are no generic leaderboards. I have no idea what anyone k/d or w/l is. Separating stats by playlist seems intelligent, but recording the overall kills and deaths of my teams seems utterly pointless and uninteresting.

[Jawbone54]

Yeah, and I can't find any way to filter it as a whole.

[JMan09]

Has anyone else seen these secrets for the Menu Screen?
Call of Duty: Black Ops -- Secrets of the Main Menu - G4tv.com
I saw this yesterday but was in class, I don't think I've seen it in the thread yet.

[boy8cookie]

So far I'm liking the m14 silenced + grip. Should be home early to play alllllll night.

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by JMan09 

Has anyone else seen these secrets for the Menu Screen?
Call of Duty: Black Ops -- Secrets of the Main Menu - G4tv.com
I saw this yesterday but was in class, I don't think I've seen it in the thread yet.

Heard about that. I didn't try it out myself. I'm sure I will later when I'm not blazing through the menu to try to kill people as quickly as possible.

[Jawbone54]

Well, add the blue areas as spawn points. There were actually a few times where I spawned along with the other team, side-by-side, with only the fence (top) and shed (bottom) separating us.

Horrible, horrible map, and people keep voting it through.

[The Final Dakar]

BTW, I was wrong. Everything right from center is closed off. What. The. ****.

[Stogieman]

You need to be level 40 or higher to access that part of the map.

[The Final Dakar]

zing.

According the my widget, sek logged off around 6 this morning. I imagine he'll Prestige tonight if he puts another solid day in.

[The Final Dakar]

After last night, I think I can officially say the spawns are far worse than MW2 and quickly approaching Halo level.

Second, their sound design is second-rate. All the explosions sound the same from any explosive at any distance that isn't right in front of you. At some point last night I was followed by a dude with Marathon while I had NInja and in the killcam and I could barely even hear him. Awful.

I'm also not entirely sure this is in full surround sound. Haven't noticed anything from my back speakers the way I would in MW2.

[The Final Dakar]

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

Horrible, horrible map, and people keep voting it through.

Incessantly, last night, to the point where I decided I was backing out of lobbies if it came up any more. I don't understand the appeal, ignoring the obvious aesthetic value. Then again, wasn't shipment popular even though it was one gigantic spawn ****?

[The Final Dakar]

I can't verify this because twitter is blocked at work, but supposedly the silent footsteps is a glitch. Apparently S&D gets the shaft worse as arming/diasarming the bomb is ultra-stealth silent too.

[The Final Dakar]

Black Ops | DenKirson on Xanga

Not as easy to read as MW2s (so far).

This might explain why last night I found a prone guy and put a FAMAS burst into his head point blank and he lived.

[KCrosbie]

Hey Bogues, happy belated birthday buddy!

By the way, you guys need to complete the campaign because...

 

It unlocks a zombie map called "Five" where you're at the pentagon playing as JFK, Nixon, and Castro. ****in' awesome and fun as hell!

[Kevin Bogues]

Bday is still a week away but thanks!

[mattyb]

Nice analysis on page 3 Dakar. I agree with 99% of what you said.

Stats are bizarre. The leaderboards are screwed up. IIRC Fatty has 16,000 kills or something daft. Once you go into a players stats then it seems reasonable.

Matchmaking is the worst part of the game. I've been doing S&D recently and I can go from 1 little red bar to 4 bars in the space of a match. Others in my clan have the same experience.

I got my arse handed to me in stdm tdm. Depressing even. Swapped to S&D and I'm happier. M16 with laser sight and silencer is effective. Ghost, Warlord and Ninja seem to be the perks although I have a Galil with silencer and I'm using Sleight of Hand on that class. Loads of people using the AK-74u and MP5K in S&D.

It would be nice to have a shotty as secondary, I'm not the greatest with a pistol.

[The Final Dakar]

Originally Posted by mattyb 

Nice analysis on page 3 Dakar. I agree with 99% of what you said.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by mattyb 

Stats are bizarre. The leaderboards are screwed up. IIRC Fatty has 16,000 kills or something daft. Once you go into a players stats then it seems reasonable.

From what I've read, this, too, is a glitch.

I also read that something similar happened during WaW and their solution included a stat reset. These guys are coming off as pros.

[The Final Dakar]

Jesus Christ, that's gotta be on the 360, right?