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Dec 20, 2005, 12:51 PM
 
http://xboxfor100.ytmnd.com/

Yes I know its a post and run but the title sums it up.

Personally I would do the same thing if I had a kid that bad
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Dec 20, 2005, 01:00 PM
 
Class. Good to see a parent follow through with the threat.
     
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Dec 20, 2005, 01:03 PM
 
That's great. I wish more parents would say "no" to their kids when it is appropriate.
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Dec 20, 2005, 01:07 PM
 
Pretty funny. The kid definitely shouldn't get the Xbox, but taunting him with a coal filled box will just make him worse. That's just as immature as kicking a stereo, although I can't blame him (the parent) for feeling that way. Still though, made me laugh
     
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Dec 20, 2005, 01:17 PM
 
I'm starting to think this stuff is fake because every Christmas someone gets on ebay or craigslist to post these "My kid was bad so I'm selling his console" ads.
     
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Dec 20, 2005, 01:49 PM
 
I'd rather say that the parents suck at rising a child. Does anybody think the kid will actually learn something when it gets an xbox box full of charocal?

I like the Cartman song, though…
     
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Dec 20, 2005, 01:59 PM
 
They'd have been smarter had they never had kids.

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Dec 20, 2005, 02:04 PM
 
IMHO, you are teaching the child nothing by filling the XBOX 360 box with coal (funny yes, good parenting... I'm not so sure)... I would return the XBOX and go buy a TON of $20 gifts and take them to a local orphanage.

Instead of "getting back" at the kid... perhaps show the kid how lucky he really is.
     
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Dec 20, 2005, 02:29 PM
 
Getting coal is a traditional thing that bad children get so it is quite appropriate at Christmas.
     
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Dec 20, 2005, 03:50 PM
 
Beyond the fact that he is a spoiled kid, imagine him at xmas night, unwrapping the xbox box only to find coal.
Then dad comes along "Well son, you've been a bad boy this year: you are a spoiled brat and you treat your mother like crap. So we decided to teach you a lesson, enjoy your coal, sport."
That will be one bitter xmas.
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Dec 20, 2005, 04:04 PM
 
That's f-----g cruel. This is something that's going to stick with the kid for a LONG time. A very, VERY long time.

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Dec 20, 2005, 04:17 PM
 
funny, but i can see where the kid gets his attitude - i'm sure he will learn alot - not

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Dec 20, 2005, 04:19 PM
 
To me, as a parent, that ad reads "I can't handle my own kid, so I'm going to treat him like sh*t".

The parents probably feed the kids tons of sugar, leading to pissy fits. We control the amount of sugar our kids have because it leads to that kind of behavior. Also, their kid may have some kind of disorder.

Either way, that guys a total dirtbag for doing that to his kid.

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Dec 20, 2005, 04:54 PM
 
In a weird way I enjoyed that song.

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Dec 20, 2005, 04:54 PM
 
Delayed punishment doesn’t work well with children. “Yeah, sorry, that Xbox we were giving you... you had a fit three weeks ago, so we decided not to give it to you after all, and not tell you about it, either. Sorry kiddo. Better luck next time.” Rubbish.

Taking the Xbox away from him is fine—but tell him so immediately. After one of his kick-the-stereo outbursts, tell him that’s it: he’s not getting that Xbox at all now, and he’s got his own behaviour to blame.

he parents probably feed the kids tons of sugar, leading to pissy fits. We control the amount of sugar our kids have because it leads to that kind of behavior. Also, their kid may have some kind of disorder.
That’s an awful lot of conjecture for such a small amount of information. My parents never really controlled how much sugar I got (apart from having only one candy day per week), but by the time I was old enough that an Xbox would even have been in the picture (say, about 10, at least—kids younger than that shouldn’t be given things like Xboxes to begin with), I had definitely learned that sugar or no sugar, such behaviour as kicking the stereos and having hissy fits was not tolerated; not in the house, not in society in general.


Any-ol’-how, this is quite likely a spoof, as MallyMal said. There are just too many of these stories surfacing every Christmas. Plus, I don’t really think anyone who would do something so obviously born out of a malignant desire to be cruel to and inflict pain in their own child as these people allegedly are would be the kind of parents who would be buying their son an Xbox in the first place. The two don’t fit.
     
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Dec 20, 2005, 04:58 PM
 
I'd really like to know how this kid kicked a stereo. My stereo's 3 feet off the ground. Did the kid kick the stereo or the stereo CABINET?

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Dec 20, 2005, 04:59 PM
 
Originally Posted by starman
I'd really like to know how this kid kicked a stereo. My stereo's 3 feet off the ground. Did the kid kick there stereo or the stereo CABINET?
Our old stereo was no more than about one and a half foot off the ground. When I was around ten, I could kick at least four feet in the air.
     
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Dec 20, 2005, 05:00 PM
 
I applaud the parents for selling the XBox; in their shoes I'd probably do the same thing. However, surprising your kid with coal on Christmas isn't cool. Seriously.

Sell the XBox, by all means. Have someone pick it up at the house, and make the kid watch as the buyer takes it away, and let him know why you sold it. Again, in their shoes this is probably what I would do. But the coal thing is just plain going too far.
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Dec 20, 2005, 05:01 PM
 
I still think it's cruel. This kid's going to resent his parents for a long, long time.

EDIT: What Mil said ^^. The coal is too far.

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Dec 20, 2005, 05:11 PM
 
That'll learn 'em.
     
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Dec 20, 2005, 05:13 PM
 
Originally Posted by starman
To me, as a parent, that ad reads "I can't handle my own kid, so I'm going to treat him like sh*t".

The parents probably feed the kids tons of sugar, leading to pissy fits. We control the amount of sugar our kids have because it leads to that kind of behavior. Also, their kid may have some kind of disorder.

Either way, that guys a total dirtbag for doing that to his kid.


I can't really comment on this since I'm only 20 y/o but it seems to me that parents these days (young parents) are totally crap parents that can't control their children anymore. It happens more and more it seems. Way too much spoiled children in the world. Maybe I'm a bit old fashioned.

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Dec 20, 2005, 05:24 PM
 
Spoiled f**kin brats, I threw a fit, once, my dad slapped me across the face (not very hard) and I learned.

I agree that this will most likely do no good for the child. I am assuming his misbehavior goes far past what is described in the writeup. As far as I am concerned they should have told him he wasn't going to get an xBox at all for Xmass because he is such a brat. Kids who are not brats already don't usually just act like a fool all of a sudden at X-mas.
     
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Dec 20, 2005, 05:52 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sarc
Then dad comes along "Well son, you've been a bad boy this year: you are a spoiled brat and you treat your mother like crap. So we decided to teach you a lesson, enjoy your coal, sport."
That will be one bitter xmas.

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Dec 20, 2005, 05:57 PM
 
Originally Posted by Millennium
I applaud the parents for selling the XBox; in their shoes I'd probably do the same thing. However, surprising your kid with coal on Christmas isn't cool. Seriously.

Sell the XBox, by all means. Have someone pick it up at the house, and make the kid watch as the buyer takes it away, and let him know why you sold it. Again, in their shoes this is probably what I would do. But the coal thing is just plain going too far.
Agreed. Telling the kid right away that the XBox was going to get sold and making him watch as the buyer took it away would be far more appropriate. The coal thing is just spiteful... it's like the adult version of throwing a tantrum and kicking stuff.
     
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Dec 20, 2005, 06:04 PM
 


I would hate my parents forEvar if they did that to me. What a shitty son. The music is awesome.
     
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Dec 20, 2005, 06:08 PM
 
I would tell him that he's not getting the XBox, right away, and then stash it away for a moment of super positive reinforcement. When he works really hard to get the good grade, or does something really great... pull it out and surprise him.

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Originally Posted by GSixZero
I would tell him that he's not getting the XBox, right away, and then stash it away for a moment of super positive reinforcement. When he works really hard to get the good grade, or does something really great... pull it out and surprise him.
Best idea so far.

That way there is both negative and positive reinforcement for his actions.
     
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Dec 20, 2005, 07:15 PM
 
I applaud the parents for what they're doing. I think they need to tell him right now that he's not getting his Xbox 360 because of his behavior. Not hold out until Christmas. Then when he really doesn't get his Xbox, he'll understand that it was directly related to his behavior.

I don't think that these parents are bad parents at all. How a chile acts does not necessarily related to how good of parents he did or did not have. Go through history, find actions that people did, and blame it on their parents. No, That's stupid...
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Dec 20, 2005, 07:41 PM
 
My kids destroyed their DS. I told them that they weren't getting a new one until they pay for it themselves and do chores around the house. They worked their asses off and I got them a new one and NOW they understand the value of something; they're taking MUCH better care of it now than they did before.

Those parents are assh*les. They're not teaching their kids anything except how to be cruel.

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Dec 20, 2005, 08:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by starman
My kids destroyed their DS. I told them that they weren't getting a new one until they pay for it themselves and do chores around the house. They worked their asses off and I got them a new one and NOW they understand the value of something; they're taking MUCH better care of it now than they did before.

Those parents are assh*les. They're not teaching their kids anything except how to be cruel.

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WEWT! Nicely done.

I agree, those parents (if real) are just being dicks and it won't serve any purpose other than the galvanize the child against them further. A simple cause/effect exchange is all that is needed. Vengance is not a good example to set. Many people here are not parents and simply don't understand how difficult it can be.

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Dec 20, 2005, 11:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by ism
Getting coal is a traditional thing that bad children get so it is quite appropriate at Christmas.
Did you ever actually get coal as a child? I did once. It was just a joke, and I knew it was just a joke. It was kind of hard not to know that, given the multitude of other presents I got that year. I didn't even believe in Santa Claus by that point. But that knowledge didn't make it any funnier, or any easier to take. Years later, my relatives still apologize whenever the story comes up. We all laugh about it now -yes, even me- but it took me almost eighteen years to get to the point where I could do that. And this was all over a joke, not sincere revenge like this kid's parents are planning.

To a child growing up around the common stories of Santa Claus, to get coal on Christmas is physical evidence of cosmic forces rejecting you as a person. To use a religious metaphor, forget the fundamentalists; it would be like God Himself coming down from on high to tell you to your face that you're going to Hell. Even if you didn't believe in Hell, that would hurt, and it would hurt terribly.

Seriously. Taking rejection -arguably the most deep-seated fear in the human psyche- and escalating it to a cosmic level is not something any remotely decent parent does to their own child (or frankly, to anyone else's). Even joking about it just isn't something anyone should be doing.
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Dec 21, 2005, 12:04 AM
 
Mil, you should send that ^^ to the email in the ad.

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Dec 21, 2005, 12:22 AM
 
Maybe the kid needs that sort of rejection. Maybe he is just that bad. Some parents send their kids off to special camps for anger management, these parents are just trying their own thing. It could be worse. Clearly none of us know the exact situation with the kid and the family, but for a parent to do this sort of thing we have to imagine that the situation isn't very good.
     
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Dec 21, 2005, 12:36 AM
 
Just remember, not only is he doing this to his kid, he's making it known WORLDWIDE.

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Dec 21, 2005, 04:23 AM
 
yeah, that is unnecessarily harsh.

Although if it hasn't been stressed enough, that kid is DAMN F*CKING STUPID. Okay, you KNOW that you're going to get a kick ass present, and you throw a f*cking fit beacuse you can't get it early??? AHH!! Thats iNSANE!!

If I were the parents I would take the kid with me while I return the thing, and do what someone suggested--use the dough to donate gifts to charity. I'd take the kid along for that too. And I'd save a few bucks of that to get the kid a Bible and teach him the real meaning of Christmas.

how sad, how sad...

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Pfff, you're all to soft. He should have had the coal for Christmas (Videoed for prosperity) and 20 lashings at the time for punishment. Nowt wrong with a bit of belting.
     
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If the parents were truly smart they'd sell the unit for the sum they paid for it.

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Originally Posted by Big Mac
If the parents were truly smart they'd sell the unit for the sum they paid for it.
You have a good point. I do remember that news clip about the girls in Boston (I think) who were willing to do certain... favors... for an XBox 360...
     
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Originally Posted by loki74
If I were the parents I would take the kid with me while I return the thing, and do what someone suggested--use the dough to donate gifts to charity. I'd take the kid along for that too. And I'd save a few bucks of that to get the kid a Bible and teach him the real meaning of Christmas.
Hmm. I like that idea, but now that I think about it, you can do even better. Donate the XBox360 to Child's Play (a nonprofit which distributes video games to children's hospitals) in the kid's name. Sick kids somewhere get to play the XBox360, and our little friend here gets lessons in both compassion and consequence. Best of all possible worlds.
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Originally Posted by Millennium
Hmm. I like that idea, but now that I think about it, you can do even better. Donate the XBox360 to Child's Play (a nonprofit which distributes video games to children's hospitals) in the kid's name. Sick kids somewhere get to play the XBox360, and our little friend here gets lessons in both compassion and consequence. Best of all possible worlds.

I made the original suggestion to give it away... but my idea was to sell the Xbox, and go with the child to a local store, pick out a bunch of $20 gifts and pass them out during the holiday so that the child can see the happiness his $20 gift can give. [no need to tell anyone why you are giving the gifts away... no "I'm teaching you a lesson" BS. Just tell him that he didn't deserve the gift and that you are taking it back and donating the gift to children that are in need.

Filling the box with coal or having it simply disappear doesn't do much... IMHO.

I guess I grew up in an environment where Christmas was about being thankful for having gifts to give... as well as receive.

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Anyone know if this was real, or just someone trying to pawn a 360 that "fell off a truck"?

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