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Kerrigan · Apr 19, 2009, 03:30 AM

Does anyone here get into fights at bars? I get crossed almost weekly by losers who want to fight about this or that, and I often want to give into the temptation and let punches fly (until I remember how much legal trouble that could get me in). Surely some of you here have let slip a punch or two to defend yourself during a night out on the town. Care to share?

smacintush · Apr 19, 2009, 03:55 AM

Drunken morons are one of the main reasons why I don't go to bars. My intolerance for obnoxious idiots far outweighs any amount of so-called "fun" I might have there.

Chuckit · Apr 19, 2009, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by smacintush

Drunken morons are one of the main reasons why I don't go to bars. My intolerance for obnoxious idiots far outweighs any amount of so-called "fun" I might have there.

I go with friends so we can only let the fun people in and ignore anyone we don't like.

And no, I've never been in a barfight.

Eug · Apr 19, 2009, 07:46 AM

You need to go to nicer bars. Or else you have to stop p!ssing people off in bars.

Andy8 · Apr 19, 2009, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by smacintush

Drunken morons are one of the main reasons why I don't go to bars. My intolerance for obnoxious idiots far outweighs any amount of so-called "fun" I might have there.

Exactly.

I do not drink either, but that is another story all together

ghporter · Apr 19, 2009, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by smacintush

Drunken morons are one of the main reasons why I don't go to bars. My intolerance for obnoxious idiots far outweighs any amount of so-called "fun" I might have there.

That and my intolerance for concentrated cigarette smoke... Heck, I have to remind myself that I can't actually physically slap every idiot whose posts I encounter...

Andy8 · Apr 19, 2009, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by ghporter

That and my intolerance for concentrated cigarette smoke

That too, especially the drunken morons standing just outside the bars to smoke, as they can not smoke indoors.

SpaceMonkey · Apr 19, 2009, 12:11 PM

Is this you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMNQA...eature=related

subego · Apr 19, 2009, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Surely some of you here have let slip a punch or two to defend yourself during a night out on the town. Care to share?

I've found the least percentage of this desire at gay bars and low-density local tavern type places.

Living near Wrigley Field, I certainly have felt less desire to kick the **** out of people in the above situations than I have being on the same sidewalk with Cubs fans after a game.

olePigeon · Apr 19, 2009, 04:31 PM

"Hell, I'll kill a man in a fair fight, or if I think he's gonna start a fair fight, or if he bothers me, or if there's a woman, or if I'm gettin' paid. Mostly only when I'm gettin' paid."

Shaddim · Apr 19, 2009, 07:16 PM

I love a good brawl, and jumped into quite a number of fights when I was in my 20s, but I don't bounce back from blunt trauma as quickly as I used to.

finboy · Apr 19, 2009, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by smacintush

Drunken morons are one of the main reasons why I don't go to bars. My intolerance for obnoxious idiots far outweighs any amount of so-called "fun" I might have there.

Ditto. Only good time to be had in bars is when you're on stage, with your own door out if the SHTF. Of course, you'd better learn how to dodge beer bottles.

- - e r i k - - · Apr 19, 2009, 08:30 PM

Seriously. What kind of f*cked up bars are you going to?

Kerrigan · Apr 19, 2009, 08:37 PM

Bars where 90% of the people are in their 20s.

OldManMac · Apr 19, 2009, 08:48 PM

I've been around almost 62 years, been in, and closed, more than a few bars, and I've never put myself in a position where I have to prove my manhood to myself.

- - e r i k - - · Apr 19, 2009, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Bars where 90% of the people are in their 20s.

How does that equate fighting?

Just stay away from crap bars with crap crowds?

Rumor · Apr 19, 2009, 09:12 PM

I have not, however, I was a bouncer for about five years. Technically, I have "fought" in a bar even though I never threw a punch.

macforray · Apr 19, 2009, 09:18 PM

Just once. A very long time ago. Hint: a draft beer was only $.25.

Not sure how it happened, but my buddy and I were having a beer at the bar and someone threw a punch and hit my buddy. Next thing I remember is that we each had thrown two guys over the bar before enough of them were able to hold us and eventually throw us out. It took four of them to get me through the door. My buddy got tossed about 30 seconds later. I don't think the entire fight lasted longer than five minutes.

To this day neither my friend or I know who threw the punch or why. We are not sure my buddy was the intended target or just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Anyway, it was fun while it lasted. I'm glad it has never happened again.

Tiresias · Apr 20, 2009, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Does anyone here get into fights at bars? I get crossed almost weekly by losers who want to fight about this or that, and I often want to give into the temptation and let punches fly (until I remember how much legal trouble that could get me in). Surely some of you here have let slip a punch or two to defend yourself during a night out on the town. Care to share?

So what exactly happened, Kerrigan? I for one would like to hear the story.

Shaddim · Apr 20, 2009, 12:53 AM

Seriously, none of you (other than Kerrigan) have entertained the notion of jumping into a fight? I suppose it can turn bad, on rare occasions, but most of the time it's just a pure adrenaline rush.

Tiresias · Apr 20, 2009, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by Shaddim

Seriously, none of you (other than Kerrigan) have entertained the notion of jumping into a fight? I suppose it can turn bad, on rare occasions, but most of the time it's just a pure adrenaline rush.

People like you are the reason people like me don't like going to bars.

smacintush · Apr 20, 2009, 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by Shaddim

Seriously, none of you (other than Kerrigan) have entertained the notion of jumping into a fight? I suppose it can turn bad, on rare occasions, but most of the time it's just a pure adrenaline rush.

No. I gave up moronic displays of pseudo-masculine aggression in high school.

besson3c · Apr 20, 2009, 01:54 AM

What is possibly worth fighting over anyway?

Kerrigan · Apr 20, 2009, 02:14 AM

If you go out on a regular basis, you will start to witness confrontations fairly frequently [this implies a level of sociability that is probably not to be found amongst an internet forum, I will grant that]. And I suspect you will begin to notice that there are certain types of people who want to start fights, like to get in peoples' faces, cause problems, etc. They are a definite minority, but they exist everywhere.

Recently I was visiting a friend, a fellow law school student, and we went to a bar to watch March Madness. It was well before the game started, and the bar had a fairly relaxed/quiet atmosphere.This fellow sitting in a booth across the room would yell "DooooooWHOP!" every 45 seconds or so. Waiters tried to calm him down as customers started complaining and leaving. This 40-something year old guy continued to scream "DoooooWHOP!", and then his brother would start glaring at anyone that complained. Finally the bouncer arrived for his shift and had to kick out the guy and apparently his entire family, who all started screaming "DoooWHOP!" and flipping the bird whilst being escorted from the bar.

This is a rather unusual example, but nevertheless illustrates that there are certain types of people who just enjoy causing confrontation. And I think it's genetic.

Shaddim · Apr 20, 2009, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by toothpick_charlie

People like you are the reason people like me don't like going to bars.

I've never started a fight in a bar (but I have participated in a few that were already in full swing).

Doofy · Apr 20, 2009, 03:32 AM

Doof basically goes to two kinds of places: High class and bikerish.

The high class places don't let knobheads in (and the knobheads don't seem to want to go there anyway), so there's never any trouble.

The bikerish places never get any trouble because if you start a fight in one of those places the Outlaws MC (who're prevalent around here) are going to rip your head off. So nobody bothers.

However, Doof once spent a New Years' Eve in a student pub. Place was packed, so Doof and friend were standing in a hallway out back between the two bar rooms. Fight breaks out. Doof decides to step in, pull the two guys apart. It's New Years' Eve, no fighting, y'know?
A little later some skivvy, obviously scoping us out but pretending to be on our side, sidles up to Doof and friend and mentions that we might want to leave because one of the guys I've just stopped from fighting has got together with a bunch of his mates and decided they're going to have at us. I suspect my having my hand down his girlfriend's knickers during the course of the evening might also have had something to do with it.
"Great! I haven't kicked the crap out of anyone for ages", Doof's friend immediately pipes up. Strange, but we didn't get any trouble at all.

Shaddim · Apr 20, 2009, 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by smacintush

No. I gave up moronic displays of pseudo-masculine aggression in high school.

Really? That's very highbrow of you. I gave up when it took longer than a couple days for a bruised shoulder to heal.

Shaddim · Apr 20, 2009, 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Doof basically goes to two kinds of places: High class and bikerish.

The high class places don't let knobheads in (and the knobheads don't seem to want to go there anyway), so there's never any trouble.

The bikerish places never get any trouble because if you start a fight in one of those places the Outlaws MC (who're prevalent around here) are going to rip your head off. So nobody bothers.

My favorite watering hole was a small Irish pub near campus. Was a wonderful place for beer, darts, and the weekly brawl (usually started over darts). It was a sport, really. No one was ever seriously injured, and we all went back to drinking (and darts) when it was over. Those were great times.

Doofy · Apr 20, 2009, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by Shaddim

My favorite watering hole was a small Irish pub near campus. Was a wonderful place for beer, darts, and the weekly brawl (usually started over darts). It was a sport, really. No one was ever seriously injured, and we all went back to drinking (and darts) when it was over. Those were great times.

Heh. I have a map of Europe somewhere with all the major exports/pastimes marked on it. Ireland is marked "Guinness and fighting".

Face Ache · Apr 20, 2009, 04:07 AM

In my last scrap (I've had many), I dropped two guys within 10 seconds without putting my drink down. Then I took one of their girlfriends home. Don't **** with me.

And yeah, I'm half Irish.

besson3c · Apr 20, 2009, 09:06 AM

I've always envisioned Doofy to be like Patrick Swayze from Road House, although with a British accent.

Laminar · Apr 20, 2009, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by besson3c

What is possibly worth fighting over anyway?

Let me guess: You "don't get it."

Dakar V · Apr 20, 2009, 09:22 AM

Frankly, I'm shocked no one has tried to tie bar fighting with political affiliation yet.

besson3c · Apr 20, 2009, 09:52 AM

And here comes Laminar trying to look for a fight with me! Unfortunately for him, I'm a lover, not a fighter. I wouldn't fare well in a bar fight, I'm no Patrick Swayze.

Maflynn · Apr 20, 2009, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar V

Frankly, I'm shocked no one has tried to tie bar fighting with political affiliation yet.

or poop

besson3c · Apr 20, 2009, 10:49 AM

I would be impressed if somebody successfully tied bar fighting to poop!

Maflynn · Apr 20, 2009, 11:07 AM

its possible, but it will include monkeys.

besson3c · Apr 20, 2009, 11:54 AM

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that...

Jawbone54 · Apr 20, 2009, 04:14 PM

I've gotten into more fights on the basketball court than anywhere else. Women are idiots in the workplace. Men are idiots in organized sports.

Drunk people in general are very uncomfortable to be around whenever you're the only sober one nearby. Irrational, unpredictable...loving one moment, violently furious the next.

Dakar V · Apr 20, 2009, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

Drunk people in general are very uncomfortable to be around whenever you're the only sober one nearby. Irrational, unpredictable...loving one moment, violently furious the next.

Sounds like the internet.

sek929 · Apr 20, 2009, 04:49 PM

Most fights turn into wrestling matches, given my size and weight I'd lose most of those wrestling matches. I've never encountered a fight that started because of good reason, usually it's two dudes who like to mouth off.

If I did encounter a fight that warranted my action I'd fight incredibly dirty, hey I only weigh 138 pounds. Not to mention that my right elbow now contains a bit of titanium that cost me my entire savings account, if I purposely injured myself again just to prove some drunken point...well that's just f**kin retarded.

Jawbone54 · Apr 20, 2009, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by dakar v

sounds like the internet.

ker-pow!

Oisín · Apr 20, 2009, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by sek929

Not to mention that my right elbow now contains a bit of titanium that cost me my entire savings account

Medical necessity or voluntary government tracking device?

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

Drunk people in general are very uncomfortable to be around whenever you're the only sober one nearby. Irrational, unpredictable...loving one moment, violently furious the next.

Odd—that’s not my experience at all. I’ve spent many a weekend around plenty of drunk people, and I’ve never felt particularly uncomfortable about them. There are some people that just turn nasty and weird when they drink, of course, but most other drunk people think they’re annoying/uncomfortable to be around, too.

The only ‘bar fight’ (which was neither a fight, nor in a bar) I’ve ever been in was after the last day of school in ninth grade. We were sitting a group of about ten or fifteen people by a fire on the beach, and then some other guys (I don’t really know who they were, but they were a couple of years older than us) came along and started mucking about with some of the other guys from my class. One of them (‘them’ referring to the other guys, not my classmates) was a bit of a psycho and flew into quite a few bouts of blind, furious rage; the others just wanted to fight regularly.

At some point, I decided this beach was no longer a very enjoyable place to be (it was three in the morning or something, anyway), so I started to walk back up the path to the road to walk home—which was apparently the same time Mr. Psycho had decided he wanted to follow someone else who’d apparently left on their scooter just before me. In his semi-lucid state of blind rage, he decided that since I was the first person on the path, I was probably that somebody, so I should be attacked. Now, Mr. Psycho was about 250 lbs, I’d estimate—he was huge for a 16-or-so-year-old, at any rate—while I was a little wimply squirt, so there was never really any question of a fight. Besides, I was listening to music, so I didn’t even hear him approaching me from behind. All of a sudden, I was just punched quite heavily at the back of the neck, and then around the head a few times.

I was quite glad his mates were apparently sober and lucid enough to realise that I was just some stranger they didn’t even know, and managed to pull/coax Mr. Psycho off me, ’cause by that time, his knife had already cut a nice big hole in my sweater (though thankfully not in me).

Since then, though, never a problem, apart from the fact that it tends to be rather impossible to convince drunk people that they’re not allowed to smoke wherever they want.

Dakar V · Apr 20, 2009, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

ker-pow!

Somebody got ****ed by no-caps.

Laminar · Apr 20, 2009, 06:39 PM

Ker-pow

edit: No caps still capitalizes the first word. Jawbone's was just a half-hearted "ker-pow."

finboy · Apr 20, 2009, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

I would be impressed if somebody successfully tied bar fighting to poop!

Or pirates. Maybe it should be B-Arrrrhhh fighting.

Doofy · Apr 20, 2009, 07:29 PM

Or in Wales. Maybe it should be baaaaa fighting.

- - e r i k - - · Apr 20, 2009, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Or in Wales. Maybe it should be baaaaa fighting.

In New Zealand, Sheep are lovers not fighters.

Maflynn · Apr 20, 2009, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

In New Zealand, Sheep are lovers not fighters.

In the US Sheep are for dinner

RobOnTheCape · Apr 20, 2009, 11:12 PM

After work in the eighties some of us would go to this spot for a few, and one time were hanging out when some guy punched me for no good reason I knew of. We went at it for awhile and I ending up throwing him out a door with no steps,( I think it was a delivery door) thus he sailed for awhile. One of the guys bought me a beer, I walk to bathroom, but then look over at this guy and his friend in a booth. I asked him(I'm foggy at this point, but I think I'm sure) "Hey, are you Ted Williams?" He replied "I am young man, and who are you?" We shook hands, and I walked away thinking that Ted Williams saw me throw a jerk out of a the bar like John frikkin Wayne.

For those of you who know Boston it was the Town Line in Somerville/but Charlestown lays claim as well. I found out later a close friend of his was the owner and he stopped in time to time through the years just to chill.

That is what is good about bar fights.