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Steve Jobs: "Folks who want porn can buy an Android phone."
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Kerrigan
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Apr 20, 2010, 12:35 PM
 
So Jobs has been sending out more candid emails.

This time, when asked about Apple's moral standards for the App store, Steve replied in an email:

"Folks who want porn can buy an Android phone."

lol

Steve Jobs Reiterates: “Folks who want porn can buy an Android phone”
     
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Apr 20, 2010, 01:13 PM
 
Or, folks can just find porn in Safari...

Maybe it's better to let parents make these sorts of moral decisions? Apple can easily put the adult apps in their own section of the store. If they really want to be moral police, I'm sure there is a ton of other content that could be censored too.
     
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Apr 20, 2010, 01:19 PM
 
Who says Steve wants to be the moral police ?

He is merely stating facts

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Apr 20, 2010, 01:29 PM
 
Originally Posted by Steve Jobs
we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone.
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Apr 20, 2010, 01:29 PM
 
It's easy to get porn on an iphone or ipod. You just can't buy it directly in iTunes.
     
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Apr 20, 2010, 01:59 PM
 
Of course it is easy to find porn through the browser. I think what Steve is stating is that the iTunes store will not simply hand it out on a silver platter. If you want porn on your iPad, go get it, but the App Store will not be a source for it.
     
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Apr 20, 2010, 01:59 PM
 
I agree with Apple's approach. If you really want porn on your iDevices, use the browser or jailbreak it and wank away. Providing it on the App Store would be redundant and unnecessary, as well as inviting criticism from parents and the press.

I will say that in having this stance, it puts Apple in a tough position where they have to make the decisions like banning the "babes" type apps because its borderline porn. While keeping the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit app, etc. They've made a decision they have every right to make, and they're sticking to it.
     
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Apr 20, 2010, 04:45 PM
 
If one of the answers in the poll was "I agree with Steve", that's the one I would have picked.

His message is mostly aimed at parents, and it's a good strategy on his part.

Sure, go and find all the porn you want on any browser, but he's stating "not in my store you won't!".

Will you find porn at a Radio Shack? Canadian Tire? Walmart? Sears? Etc.?

No, and there's nothing wrong with this stance.

Just the fact that, come Christmas time, parents will mull on the idea of "hey, Android sells porn but Apple doesn't, is a freakin' good marketing strategy. (IMHO)

But that's 'IF' Droids will even offer porn in its' app store (which I'm not aware of, yet).
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Apr 20, 2010, 04:55 PM
 
Meh, seems pointless. Sounds like most kids today are getting porn from their fellow classmates.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Meh, seems pointless. Sounds like most kids today are getting porn from their fellow classmates.
That's not the point. It's about the store where one purchases it.
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Apr 20, 2010, 05:09 PM
 
As long as I can have my Gorn, I'll be happy.



And yes, you can actually get Gorn as an iPhone app. I checked.
     
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Apr 20, 2010, 05:54 PM
 
Or Pulitzer Prize winning cartoons.
     
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Apr 20, 2010, 06:03 PM
 
Who the hell would want porn on an iPhone, anyways? The screen is way too small for it to be in any way useful.

Watching regular movies is mostly good for when you’ve got a long-haul train ride or flight—and people unperturbedly wanking away in trains and planes tends to be confined to take place in porn itself.
     
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Apr 20, 2010, 06:09 PM
 
The comment directed to Steve, and one in which he really didn't answer, was this:

It appears that more and more Apple is determining for it’s consumers what content they should be able to receive. For instance, the blocking of Mark Fiore’s comic app (due to being political satire) or blocking of what Apple considers to be porn.
Steve responded and said:

However, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and Android phone.
The difference, of course, is "what Apple considers to be porn". Or, more to the issue trying to be addressed by the guy that sent Steve email, "what Apple considers to be acceptable content".

No thanks, I don't want Apple trying to determine what is acceptable content.

If Playboy or Hustler or some other magazine wanted to create an App that highlighted Ms. January, not only would Apple not permit it in the App Store (see this: Apple Answers the FCC’s Questions), but they have created an environment where content must be approved by them before it can be sold in the App store. And, of course, they consider jailbreaking (which is the only way you can run alternative content on the iphone/itouch/ipad) to be illegal. I believe that they'll eventually run into anti-trust and anti-competitive issues with this behavior.

I don't want anybody deciding what is moral or "right" or "approved" for me - thank you. I can do that myself.
     
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Apr 20, 2010, 06:32 PM
 
=The difference, of course, is "what Apple considers to be porn".
What is considered as "porn" is a no-brainer. If you have children, would you be able to tell them "okay kids, see this couple 'loving' each other? See what thing is in her oral cavity? And see this woman doing things with the horse? Now that's porn kids, and don't you forget it".

And then you have your son and say to him "see these awesome boobs? Now son, this is not porn, it's simply awesome."

And could the same be iterated to your daughter? "Hey, see how big that is? It's special and it's art."

No, Steve's got it right. I believe that he's seriously thinking about what's acceptable for children and what isn't. And he knows damn well that if nice curvy and shaky boobs are allowed in his store then the same should apply with a horsy dangger. Then what.. He'd get blamed for sexism.

The App store is meant for many things for many people. But once you've cross the naked line (call it moralistic if you wish), it's difficult to turn back.

He's not playing 'God', he's probably been there/done that. He simply wishes for an clean environment. And if you judge him for that? Then maybe he's right -go elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by danbrew View Post
I believe that they'll eventually run into anti-trust and anti-competitive issues with this behavior.
On what grounds ?

Your God-given right to buy porn in any store that you would like ?

I demand that my church's book store sell pron, too.

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Apr 20, 2010, 06:39 PM
 
What? That makes no sense. Do you hold the same content for stores like Walmart or Target that don't sell porn on their shelves? Do you tell them you don't want them deciding what you can purchase in their stores? What about Netflix? Do you shop at any place of business that specifically doesn't sell porn because you dn't want them deciding for you what is moral? How is this different than the iTunes store? Its Apple's business, its their store, they get to decide what is on their shelves.

I'm really getting tired of this argument that Apple must open their own store up for anything and everything that anyone wants to throw on it, or Apple is evil and trying to control its users. That's complete nonsense. There is no law on the books that says that everyone in the world must buy and use Apple products. You don't like not having smut on your phone? Do exactly what the CEO of the company said, go buy an Andriod phone. Simple solution for a simple problem. How hard is this to understand?

And if indeed the vast majority of Apple's customers are that hungry for porn on their iPhone, then Apple will see the customer base shrink, lose a ton of money, and then decide whether they feel its worth it to open the flood gates or not. And even then they get to decide whether to do it or not. No one has a right to this stuff. Its a choice you made when you bought the device.
     
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Apr 20, 2010, 06:49 PM
 
You guys are doing the same thing Steve did - you're making this about porn. I'm not advocating porn, but I guarantee you that my definition of porn and Steve's (and both of you) is different.

And, dzp11, great job on introducing some lurid pornographic thoughts and comments into the discussion. I don't want you or Steve telling me what you think is acceptable for me or my children. Your language is fairly inappropriate for a family-oriented website. (didn't like that, did you? just like I don't like Apple telling me what is good or bad for me)

The question is not about porn - the question is about Apple being the entity that gets to decide what is acceptable content for its customers. Ask yourself this - would you stand for Apple determining which applications you could run on your Macbook Pro? Or Bill Gates telling you what apps you could and could not run on your Windows machine? That's exactly what's happening with Apple when they "approve" content.
     
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Originally Posted by danbrew View Post
The question is not about porn - the question is about Apple being the entity that gets to decide what is acceptable content for its customers. Ask yourself this - would you stand for Apple determining which applications you could run on your Macbook Pro? Or Bill Gates telling you what apps you could and could not run on your Windows machine? That's exactly what's happening with Apple when they "approve" content.
Yes, if I know about it when I purchase the stuff, I shouldn't complain later.

Ask yourself: what gives anyone the right to force a private store owner to sell something they don't want to sell ?

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What? That makes no sense. Do you hold the same content for stores like Walmart or Target that don't sell porn on their shelves? Do you tell them you don't want them deciding what you can purchase in their stores? What about Netflix? Do you shop at any place of business that specifically doesn't sell porn because you dn't want them deciding for you what is moral? How is this different than the iTunes store? Its Apple's business, its their store, they get to decide what is on their shelves.
But I don't have to shop at Target or Walmart if I don't like their policies. Unless I jailbreak my iphone/pad/touch, I do have to shop at the App store. My complaint is less about what the App store stocks and more about the fact that Apple thinks they can force their customers to only use the App store - hence their position that an end user is "breaking the law" if they jailbreak their device.
     
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Apr 20, 2010, 07:02 PM
 
I get exactly what you're saying. I know you're not only referring to porn - but its the topic at hand so I was using it as an example. But my comparison still stands, and you haven't addressed it. How is this different from ANY other retail outlet? Take your pick, Walmart, Target, Netflix, even broadcast companies like NBC, ABC, FOX, etc. They ALL restrict what they sell to their customers. Every single one of them. And its 100% legal and has been accepted by the masses. They are all "entities that get to decide what is acceptable content for its customers".

The point is, every company that sells things gets to choose what it is they sell. As long as the consumer has an option to go elsewhere if they aren't happy, there's nothing wrong with that. And there are plenty of other choices out there if one isn't happy with the restrictions of the App Store. Hell, if you must use an Apple product, you even have the option to jailbreak and go crazy.
     
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Originally Posted by danbrew View Post
But I don't have to shop at Target or Walmart if I don't like their policies. Unless I jailbreak my iphone/pad/touch, I do have to shop at the App store. My complaint is less about what the App store stocks and more about the fact that Apple thinks they can force their customers to only use the App store - hence their position that an end user is "breaking the law" if they jailbreak their device.
Wrong. You do NOT have to shop at the App Store. If you MUST own an Apple iPhone, iPod touch or iPad, you STILL don't have to shop at the App Store. You choose to.

Not only that, there is no secret when you buy an iPhone... Apple's policies have been in place since day one. You know that when you walk into a Walmart, you won't find porn - or anything else Walmart doesn't want to sell. You know that when you buy an iPhone, you won't find porn - or anything else Apple doesn't want to sell - in the App Store.

Regardless of Apple's stated position on jailbreaking, have they prosecuted anyone for it?
     
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Well... I guess if that's what the masses will accept, so be it. I still believe that, ultimately, Apple will be challenged in court for anti-competitive and/or anti-trust behavior. Anti-trust is harder because of their position in the market, but anti-competitive? when you (Apple) decide that you will decide what content is appropriate and you block folks from selling via the only "lawful" (their position, not mine) distribution channel, you've got problems.

Ask yourself this - would you stand for this vetting of content on your Macbook? If no, why do you do it on your iPad/Phone/Touch?

I've got nothing against Apple - I'm probably one of the few folks on this forum that still has my first Apple computer in the closet (a Mac128k) - I simply don't like the idea of anyone telling me what is appropriate content for me and what is not. Yes, I have options - I can choose to jailbreak. But if Apple could have their way, they'd prevent that if they could. Honest? I haven't followed it too closely as I'm not an iPhone guy, but didn't Apple do something stupid to jailbroken phones at one point? Turned off service? Flashed them back to factory status? Nuked apps installed via jailbreaking? Something along those lines. Can't recall the details and am too lazy to search for it.

In summary? Let the market dictate the apps that will be successful. And, btw, there's probably a reason the porn industry is a $4B annual thing...
     
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Apr 20, 2010, 07:27 PM
 
Sorry danbrew. I got carried away there, and the mods are easily welcomed to edit my post.

But thinking about what you said that this site being family-oriented, does not the same concept apply to the App store? Who runs this place? Who mods it? Who's in charge? And who is to blame for any censorship?

Who's call?
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Danbrew, I'm not sure I get your perspective. It sounds to me like that you'd walk into a Walmart and 'demand' that they sell porn magazines, because they have no right to tell you that they won't sell.

If I own a cigarette store and I don't carry menthols, am I; a) obliged to sell them because it's your right to be able to buy menthol cigs in my store? or b) obliged to sell them because it's you're right to tell me that it's not my right to tell you that I won't sell them to you..

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Give it a rest. Some stores choose to sell whatever they want or not want to. It's not about control, it's about choices. Apple is just another store. Should I have a store and you came in asking for porn, I'd simply say "sorry, we don't sell those but the store across the street does." Am I "controlling you??"

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Rara, consumer choice.

I'm tired of this "argument".

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Apr 20, 2010, 10:35 PM
 
Me too.

(I'm outta here)
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Shouldn't "rara" end with an 'H'? Like Rarah?


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Ah Steve. Remember, he said Android is for task killers too. Task killers and pornographers, your phone has arrived.
     
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The point that I'm trying to make is that Apple is using their position in the market to create what is effectively a monopoly. That's their right, to a degree. Apple exercises editorial control over the apps available at the app store and tries to ensure that they are the only store in town. The second part is what I have a problem with.

They're getting away with it because consumers do have choices and the ipad/iphone/itouch are not the only devices in town - customers can elect to use another product or another platform. Imagine if Microsoft tried the same - you want to buy a word processing or spreadsheet product? You must buy Office. Nobody would stand for that.

I can also say that I don't like a company helping me to determine my "morality".

Guess we can agree to disagree.
     
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Originally Posted by ::maroma:: View Post
I agree with Apple's approach. If you really want porn on your iDevices, use the browser or jailbreak
What's the difference between using Safari or some other app that might be able to access a wide variety of content.
     
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Guess we can agree to disagree.
Happy to do so.

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Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
What's the difference between using Safari or some other app that might be able to access a wide variety of content.
We're not talking about browsers' capabilities (at least I don't think so..) We're solely talking about the App store. (I think and hope so.. less I'm a total idiot and missed this thread's point).
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Originally Posted by dzp111 View Post
We're not talking about browsers' capabilities (at least I don't think so..) We're solely talking about the App store. (I think and hope so.. less I'm a total idiot and missed this thread's point).
Does it matter? Either way, Apple is selling a product that allows access to porn.
     
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Originally Posted by danbrew View Post
The point that I'm trying to make is that Apple is using their position in the market to create what is effectively a monopoly. That's their right, to a degree. Apple exercises editorial control over the apps available at the app store and tries to ensure that they are the only store in town. The second part is what I have a problem with.
That doesn't fit any definition of monopoly.

Neither is Apple trying to "extort" more money out of the consumer (like charging outrageous amounts of money for pron), nor are they trying actively to hurt competition (quite the opposite - they even recommend to go to the competition for certain things).

But hey, it's teh intarwebs, as soon as you don't get it your way, it's gotta be a monopoly.

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Geez, and I thought I was the idiot. Apple isn't selling no such thing -that's the whole freakin' point.

I'm not impressed that I'm even responding to such idiosyncrasy.

I thought I was outta here..
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Wiskedjak ,

Geez, and I thought I was the idiot. Apple isn't selling no such thing -that's the whole freakin' point.

I'm not impressed that I'm even responding to such idiosyncrasy.

I thought I was outta here..
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Geez, and I thought I was the idiot. Apple isn't selling no such thing -that's the whole freakin' point.
They absolutely are. The iPhone can access porn in it's default configuration.

Apple sells the iPhone = Apple sells a product that can access porn.
     
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Sorry for the double post. I couldn't get rid of one. Perhaps I meant it twice.


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Oh my God Wiskedjak, you've no clue about this thread do you.. Of course porn is accessible anyhow on the Internet.

Porn is free on many sites via browsers. Steve Jobs decided not to 'sell' any of it in his store.

What's the biggy?

He (we) all know where porn can be accessed, he just won't 'sell' the stuff, in other words, make an income of it. It's called "ahem" respect for many.

(Why am I still on this ludicrous thread?)

Ah, yes, I tend to respond to immaturity.
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Where "monopoly" is concerned. My Dad has no clue about computers, and I mean a big zero.

I explained Apple's history when it decided to go on its' own in the 80's. Now my Dad's a smart guy, and his respond was "good move". The man can't even type.

My point?

I've no clue.

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But I know this much, there's no such thing as a monopoly until you own most of everything. And that's not Apple.

Yet.
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Can someone please ban me from this thread?

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Originally Posted by dzp111 View Post
Can someone please ban me from this thread?

I feel addicted.
Good thing they don't sell porn in the App store, then.
     
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Originally Posted by dzp111 View Post
I'm not impressed that I'm even responding to such idiosyncrasy.
Originally Posted by dzp111 View Post
(Why am I still on this ludicrous thread?)

Ah, yes, I tend to respond to immaturity.
Why the need to respond with personal attacks?
     
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Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
Why the need to respond with personal attacks?
Lack of decent arguments.
     
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Apr 21, 2010, 12:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by danbrew View Post
The point that I'm trying to make is that Apple is using their position in the market to create what is effectively a monopoly. That's their right, to a degree. Apple exercises editorial control over the apps available at the app store and tries to ensure that they are the only store in town. The second part is what I have a problem with.
They aren't - not by a long shot.

They can't even SELL to 80% of the market, because the Apple Store doesn't cater to Nokia, S-E, RIM, Android, Windows Mobile or Palm smartphones.

If they all go out of business, THEN the App Store is potentially a monopoly - as would be the iPhone. Different rules apply then.

Until then - if you don't like the store, don't shop there. If it's the only store on the island where you live - move somewhere else. Minimal research should have made that much clear before you made the choice.

End of story.
     
   
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