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bobette · Dec 20, 2000, 01:00 AM

K, this'll get the demons out ya know?

My &"#*!#)#$*!$#""#)$#$_ ex-Oldsmo-f*ckin'_bile Achieva 93, blue-green with the stench of rotting dirty underwear. The damn thing cost me a *"#&"#("#$)#$ bundle to repair. I hated it. It can rot in hell. And go f*ck a LADA for that matter....

aaaaaaaHHHEEMM!!

There, I feel better now.

You guys?

seanyepez · Dec 20, 2000, 01:23 AM

Screw the Mercedes-Benz E320. It's such a clich� these days in Pleasanton, California, a rich town swarming with executives.

Long live the BMW 5-series sedans!

Personally, the crappiest car in the world was the first and last E320 I rode in. It is such a donkey to repair.

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kaceygones · Dec 20, 2000, 01:38 AM

NO!!! My '92 Jeep Wrangler is the worst!!
The heater doesn't work and my feet freeze.
It burns more oil than gas, has a crack from one side of the windshield
to the other and my feet freeze.
It's a stick so, it's a bitch to drive in the Wash. DC traffic and my feet freeze.
The window are plastic so they might as well be open which makes the rest of me freeze.

Some might wonder why I have it if I love it so much.
Because I got it as a divorce settlement.

Did I mention that my feet freeze?
kacey

Macfreak7 · Dec 20, 2000, 02:52 AM

bwhahhahahaha

u guys wanna feel good about your cars? just take a peek at the cars we have in india!

(yay, three figures for me)

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3gg3 · Dec 20, 2000, 03:14 AM

My wife's '89 Mercury Topaz. Can't say one good thing about it. It was an estate settlement; another reason i HATE it!

gorefan68 · Dec 20, 2000, 03:24 AM

You guys havent mentioned a real bad one yet. Here's my shoot at it.

Either a renault le car, or any british roadster.

All of those cars should be turned into coral reef.

Ca$h

noliv · Dec 20, 2000, 08:31 AM

I like renault!

suprz · Dec 20, 2000, 09:07 AM

i have to agree with kacey i had a 1986 jeep cherokee with a 2.8 v6. what a piece of sh*t!!! the damn thing had no balls at all, it had a carburetor on it and i went to a mechanic to have it either replaced or rebuilt and i was told they dont even make them anymore, and they cant even be rebuilt (dont know if i believed him about the "cant be rebuilt" part) but anyways, the heater sucked the only time i got heat out of it is if i was at a stop light and it was idling for a while. the 4 wheel drive didnt work because the vacuum module that activates the 4 wheel drive was shot and a new one cost 95.00$ at jeep ( a design flaw per a jeep mechanic). the back brakes had to be manualy adjusted every 3 months because the automatic adjusters didnt work (a design flaw, per a jeep mechanic). the steering box leaked power steering fluid at a rate so fast i had to keep refilling the reservoir every 3 days. i have talked to numerous jeep mechanics and they all agree, the 80's jeeps had alot of problems especially the cherokees with the 2.8 pos v6.....

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thirtyfootsmurf · Dec 20, 2000, 11:54 AM

Ca$h, you better not be trash talking my (dads) 1970 (or 71 I dunno) MGB (not that I can do anything about it... oh well). That car kicks butt! Although it needs some new parts, it runs really well. The thing goes like stink too. it's a convertible though and those aren't much use here in Washington.

The worst car that I can think of is a Yugo or a Ford Pinto. Kabooom!!!

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davidflas · Dec 20, 2000, 12:00 PM

Any Saturn ever made, I'd rather drive a minivan with a soccer sticker in the window!

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SillyPooh · Dec 20, 2000, 12:19 PM

The worst car ever has to be my mum's Opel Senator aka "The Boat". Basically, the engine is not properly fixed so the whole car is shaking like hell when the car is at rest. The AC is dead, the engine takes hours to start, the rooftop tissue is dangling and almost everything is broken or not working inside.

The bad news is, I might inherit this little baby whenever I get the time to pass my licence...

DBursey · Dec 20, 2000, 12:27 PM

Who can forget the 'K' cars? Perhaps the worst Chrysler ever made. The rear suspension was terrible; they all seemed to suffer from a 'droopy' rearend. On the bright side, time and corrosion seem to have removed all evidence of this production lemon, as is the case with many cars of the late 70's to mid eighties. There won't be many antiques from that era years from now.

Also, the old 4 cylinder Escort was so severely underpowered, you'd be in trouble if you found yourself behind one going uphill.

jholmes · Dec 20, 2000, 12:38 PM

What no Yugos yet?
I've seen a few, but my favorite rotten car story comes from a friend who had a Pontiac Fiero. He drove over a set of railroad tracks and the passenger side exterior door panel FELL OFF!. He pulled over to see what had happened and left the car idling as he got out and walked around it. While he was doing this it caught on fire.

davidflas · Dec 20, 2000, 01:23 PM

How about the American Motors Gremlin?

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deedar · Dec 20, 2000, 01:32 PM

No contest - A Fiat 128 4door. Hands down. Also known as "Fix It Again Tony". Close second would be, as what's his name said - any British roadster.......

DBursey · Dec 20, 2000, 02:03 PM

Jholmes, I second the Fiero nomination. I borrowed a friends for a day a few years ago. Being a swell guy I thought I'd check the oil for her. I grabbed the dip stick and almost jumped out of my skin (excluding that which stayed on the dipstick)! The Fiero is aptly named, as those rear engines tend to get mighty hot!

My old '86 Mercury Cougar gave me lots of trouble. Once, after a long roadtrip the front passenger side ball joint let go as I was turning into my driveway, and of course the front wheel came right off! After hours of highway driving, what were the chances it'd last until I was in my own driveway?!

I should have listened to my mechanic and had both ball joints done then. As it turned out, a few months later the other one let go as I was on my way to pick my (then future) wife up for our first date! I had to call her from a pay phone to come and rescue me. She passed the test that day! Nothing like your front whell coming off in traffic to get that adrenalin flowing!!

druber · Dec 20, 2000, 03:04 PM

Hm, my Saturn's hummed like an angel since I bought it (used w/ 40k on it). Has absolutely no features, but it gets me everywhere.

I'll give my Thbppt to the AMC Concorde. Twas my first car, and though I loved having it, there was so much wrong with that poor thing. Thing sounded more like a train than a car when it got rolling. It was fun. (ah, the wonders of selective memory)

andi*pandi · Dec 20, 2000, 04:45 PM

everyone I know who has a saturn is pleased with it--and that's about 8 people.

I have to second the Ford Escort circa 1984--I learned to drive on this pathetic dirtbox. ewww.

kaceygones · Dec 20, 2000, 04:57 PM

Reading everyone's posts reminds me of other cars I've had and makes me think my Jeep isn't so bad afterall.

When I was overseas, I had a FIAT 124 Sport and to this day, I think it was the best car I had. It could really go and I loved it, but we also had a Porsche 911 with a volkswagon engine that heated the car by running the exhaust through the car!!! You couldn't breathe, but you were nice and warm.
In Florida with 90-100 degree days nine months out of the year, we had a Black '84 Ford Escort with no air-conditioning. That was hot. I hated that car.

That's even worse than no heat in my Jeep!!
kacey

P.S. I'm getting a new windshield tomorrow for $185
as a Christmas present from my husband.
Now, about that heater...

davidflas · Dec 20, 2000, 05:04 PM

Perhaps I need to clearify why I put Saturn up for nomination here. I dislike Saturns because they are the antithesis of everything I like in cars, i.e. bland styling, underpowered engines, family car handling, the touchy- feely ads that appeal the the homogenic masses. I do understand that they are much better than when they first came out, but to me they inspire my passion for driving about as much as fat free,sugar free vanilla yogurt or unflavored rice cakes inspire my passion for eating. That's what I meant when I said that I hate all Saturns.

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eep! · Dec 20, 2000, 05:24 PM

ca$h, what exactly is wrong with british roadsters?
i'd like to see your neon face up to a lotus elise or a caterham 7 jpe (the lil 7 can do 0-60 in about 3secs!)
not to mention the TVR range.

just to say: "This is not an attack, just defending my nations roadsters

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tonymac · Dec 20, 2000, 08:58 PM

Worst car: Dodge/Plymouth Neon
Ford Escorts are a close second.

kaceygones · Dec 20, 2000, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by tonymac:
Worst car: Dodge/Plymouth Neon
Ford Escorts are a close second.

Here come those "Sparks" Ca$h was looking for.

kacey

gorefan68 · Dec 21, 2000, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by davidflas:
How about the American Motors Gremlin?

What's wrong with the gremlin? A good little car, and they're selling for a pretty penny these days, especially the V8 ones...

Ever see the "levi's" Gremlin? The interior was all levi's denim.

I like them

Ca$h

CaseCom · Dec 21, 2000, 01:22 AM

Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon

gorefan68 · Dec 21, 2000, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by thirtyfootsmurf:
Ca$h, you better not be trash talking my (dads) 1970 (or 71 I dunno) MGB (not that I can do anything about it... oh well). That car kicks butt! Although it needs some new parts, it runs really well. The thing goes like stink too. it's a convertible though and those aren't much use here in Washington.

They never made coupes. ANd yes, I am trash talking it. I hate those cars. There is a VERY GOOD REASON why they are so dirt cheap, and the reason would be is that they NEVER WORK RIGHT. Something is always wrong, and they have to be some of the most horribly engineered cars ever produced.

Ca$h

gorefan68 · Dec 21, 2000, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by davidflas:
Perhaps I need to clearify why I put Saturn up for nomination here. I dislike Saturns because they are the antithesis of everything I like in cars, i.e. bland styling, underpowered engines, family car handling, the touchy- feely ads that appeal the the homogenic masses. I do understand that they are much better than when they first came out, but to me they inspire my passion for driving about as much as fat free,sugar free vanilla yogurt or unflavored rice cakes inspire my passion for eating. That's what I meant when I said that I hate all Saturns.

HAhaHahhAhaAhahAHahhHha

>falls out of chair<

HAhaHahHAhahHAaa

>gets back in chair, but falls out again<

HahAhahAha

EXCELLENT description my friend.

Ca$h

ThinkInsane · Dec 21, 2000, 02:16 AM

I hate to do it, but I agree with cash on the LeCar. What a joke. And Yugo's? I friend of mine bought one for a winter rat. He slid on slick roads, hit a CURB and totaled it. Speaking of Yugo's, did anyone see the movie "Drowning Mona"? You haven't seen nothing until you have seen a yugo police car!

macmad · Dec 21, 2000, 04:39 AM

Nobody has yet mentioned the "Trabant" or "Trabby" - an east German/Russian thing made of papermache. A four seater with a 2 cyl boxer engine (2 stroke) that ran on anything you could find to put in it. They stink, and are usually follwed by a smoke cloud!

Any old Russian (eastern block) car is a piece of nostalgic crap...

Oh, and British Roadsters...

Cipher13 · Dec 21, 2000, 05:17 AM

Originally posted by eep!:
ca$h, what exactly is wrong with british roadsters?
i'd like to see your neon face up to a lotus elise or a caterham 7 jpe (the lil 7 can do 0-60 in about 3secs!)
not to mention the TVR range.

just to say: "This is not an attack, just defending my nations roadsters "

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Dude, those TVR's friggin' rule!
What I wouldn't do for a Speed 6, or even better, a Speed 12...
Holy sh!t, that Speed 12 is like... man I can't even describe it, just the sound of its engine makes you sweat...

Cipher13

druber · Dec 21, 2000, 10:54 AM

Perhaps I need to clearify why I put Saturn up for nomination here. I dislike Saturns because they are the antithesis of everything I like in cars, i.e. bland styling, underpowered engines, family car handling, the touchy- feely ads that appeal the the homogenic masses. I do understand that they are much better than when they first came out, but to me they inspire my passion for driving about as much as fat free,sugar free vanilla yogurt or unflavored rice cakes inspire my passion for eating. That's what I meant when I said that I hate all Saturns.

I understand not liking the smooshy ads, but as for the rest, look who those ads are targetting. Gosh, you'd almost think they were wanting to sell a smallish family car with something reasonable under the hood to keep something reasonable on the sticker. May not have a lot of people jumping with excitement, but they're very reliable, especially for the price.
Life is easier when you can adjust your expectations.

druber · Dec 21, 2000, 11:34 AM

[lousy double-post. how'd that happen?]

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petek · Dec 21, 2000, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by gorefan68:
They never made coupes. ANd yes, I am trash talking it. I hate those cars. There is a VERY GOOD REASON why they are so dirt cheap, and the reason would be is that they NEVER WORK RIGHT. Something is always wrong, and they have to be some of the most horribly engineered cars ever produced.

Ca$h

Not to burst yer bubble, but didja never hear of the MGB-GT Ca$h? One seriously good looking and (almost) practical coupe. Had a '72 for several years, until I made the mistake of letting my son use it. (Hey, when he rear-ended a Pontiac, the MG just needed new front body panels, etc. The Pontiac was totaled.) Very rugged little car, and a blast to drive, too!

Of course the recommended service interval was 1000 miles, and things would start going to hell pretty quickly if you skipped it, but what do you expect for a car designed in 1962 featuring electrics courtesy of the Prince of Darkness (Sir Lucas, that would be)!

Still miss that car.

gorefan68 · Dec 21, 2000, 05:01 PM

^?96?riginally posted by eep!:
ca$h, what exactly is wrong with british roadsters?
i'd like to see your neon face up to a lotus elise or a caterham 7 jpe (the lil 7 can do 0-60 in about 3secs!)
not to mention the TVR range.
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I think those fall into more of the 'exotic' catergory.....

I'm talking midgets, sprites, spitfires, triumphs, fiats, all that 2 seater convertable garbage.

Ca$h

gorefan68 · Dec 21, 2000, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by druber:
I understand not liking the smooshy ads, but as for the rest, look who those ads are targetting. Gosh, you'd almost think they were wanting to sell a smallish family car with something reasonable under the hood to keep something reasonable on the sticker. May not have a lot of people jumping with excitement, but they're very reliable, especially for the price.
Life is easier when you can adjust your expectations.

Dammit. "very reliable". BULLCRAP. Same with people talking about Kia Sophias being 'reliable'. why? ITS NOT ITS OWN CAR! Kia= ford escort

Saturn= GM

A saturn is just as reliable as any other GM car..

Actually, what newer car ISNT reliable? NONE. So who cares?

Ca$h

gorefan68 · Dec 21, 2000, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by petek:
Not to burst yer bubble, but didja never hear of the MGB-GT Ca$h? One seriously good looking and (almost) practical coupe. Had a '72 for several years, until I made the mistake of letting my son use it. (Hey, when he rear-ended a Pontiac, the MG just needed new front body panels, etc. The Pontiac was totaled.) Very rugged little car, and a blast to drive, too!

Of course the recommended service interval was 1000 miles, and things would start going to hell pretty quickly if you skipped it, but what do you expect for a car designed in 1962 featuring electrics courtesy of the Prince of Darkness (Sir Lucas, that would be)!

Still miss that car.

I seriously doubt the collision damage was as insignificant as that, unless of course he rear ended a mid 80s pontiac lemans.... other than that, it'd be dead.

Anyway, what would I expect for a car in 1962? Hrm...

Ca$h

gorefan68 · Dec 21, 2000, 05:16 PM

^?96?riginally posted by eep!:
ca$h, what exactly is wrong with british roadsters?
i'd like to see your neon face up to a lotus elise or a caterham 7 jpe (the lil 7 can do 0-60 in about 3secs!)
not to mention the TVR range.
[This message has been edited by eep! (edited 12-20-2000).][/QUOTE]

I think those fall into more of the 'exotic' catergory.....

I'm talking midgets, sprites, spitfires, triumphs, fiats, all that 2 seater convertable garbage.

Ca$h

denim · Dec 21, 2000, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by gorefan68:
Ever see the "levi's" Gremlin? The interior was all levi's denim.

MMMmmmmm!!

denim · Dec 21, 2000, 05:22 PM

Chevette or Geo Metro. Awful. I'd rather drive my old 1980 two door Zephr. It had a manual shift, which surprised every mechanic who ever worked on it.

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roders · Dec 21, 2000, 07:38 PM

Ca$h, If you don't like British sixties roadsters (as yer call them) then in my opinion you don't like cars (& yes I know the opposite is true).
All the models you mention were designed in the 1960's, when you actually had to look after a car to keep it running, + they were all intended as poor mans (i.e. cheap-to fairly cheap) sports cars, I think they do what they were designed to do very well, considering the time they were actually designed, they are also fun to drive, (i.e. round corners) something it took you Americans an embarrassingly long time to work out how to do.

By the way, Fiat is an Italian make, and as far as British coupes go, have you never heard of the E-type Coupe; In my opinion possibly one of the most beautiful cars ever made.
P.S what type of car do you drive again Ca$h?

P.P.S if anyone thinks I�m being bated here; I�m sorry, but I've blind sided you, and Ca$h, as it's me who's doing the baiting (reverse psychology, ya see!?)

P.P.P.S Finally, I have to admit that the worst car in the world probably is British, it's called the "Robin Reliant" (anyone from the UK know's it) and it's got um, three wheels (hangs head in shame) and is made of plastic. Unfortunately, this car recently went out off production (hurrah!!!) after about 30-40yrs !@?* of manufacture.

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suprz · Dec 21, 2000, 07:50 PM

british cars suck....

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Ruddigger · Dec 22, 2000, 02:58 AM

Anything Suzuki, especially my friends old '88 Suziki Samurai.

Floored the thing went 60mph with the wind behind it, downhill, and with premium gas in it...

No air, no power, and t felt like you were going to flip over around corner...

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gorefan68 · Dec 22, 2000, 03:35 AM

Sorry, british cars stink. you can get much more dependable higher performance american cars in 1955 than you could get british cars in 1965.....

Ca$h

petek · Dec 22, 2000, 09:10 AM

My mother's '65 Ford Fairlane 6-cyl, 3 on the tree. Handled like a pig, took longer than a train to stop and even longer to get going. Rusted through its paint before it was five years old. Even the Falcon had more style! The 60's equivalent of the K-car. Every time I drove it (as a teenager) I prayed that none of my friends would see me.

druber · Dec 22, 2000, 11:32 AM

Dammit. "very reliable". BULLCRAP. Same with people talking about Kia Sophias being 'reliable'. why? ITS NOT ITS OWN CAR! Kia= ford escort

Saturn= GM

A saturn is just as reliable as any other GM car..

Actually, what newer car ISNT reliable? NONE. So who cares?

Thanks for agreeing with me.

maxelson · Dec 22, 2000, 01:30 PM

[Hey, now, lay off them Saturns- BEST cars (I have 2) I have EVER bought. They're not Porches, but they are comfortable and INCREDIBLY reliable! Not to mention- I hate auto sales people- these folks won't come near you until you ask- love that.

maxelson · Dec 22, 2000, 01:32 PM

...and now you know 10. I will be a Saturn customer until the cars start sucking or the sales folks get pushy. I own 2. Love them both- they've never let me down (after 5 years, that means something!)

maxelson · Dec 22, 2000, 01:36 PM

By the way, I'll vote in for KIAs and Geos- wouldn't be able to choose between them for the worst, but they are both the biggest deathtraps going...

Gregg · Dec 22, 2000, 04:19 PM

boxcar

gorefan68 · Dec 22, 2000, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by maxelson:
...and now you know 10. I will be a Saturn customer until the cars start sucking or the sales folks get pushy. I own 2. Love them both- they've never let me down (after 5 years, that means something!)

No.... it doesnt. Almost any new car will not let you down. All newer cars are reliable.... saturns are nothing noteable at all; boring styline, lethargic performance, and just all around conservatively BLAH and unexciting... Well. Wait. One noteable thing. You know those rubbermaid commercials that say "don't you wish everything was made rubbermaid?"

Well, you can get the rubbermaid car......

Ca$h

PS: The new SL whatever, (the 3 door thingie) has a 0-60 of NINE seconds...ack.