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New standard format for compressed files?
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I read at Panther site that new Finder can compress/uncompress files using the gzip standard. Is it compatible with winzip (Win) and Stuffit (Mac)? Is it more efficient?
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panther uses .zip format which is 100% compatible with windows. It is around 20-50 times faster than any stuffit format and is a joy to work with. it is dropzip compatible.
there are numerous threads in the software section with benchmarks and tests carried out by me and other users.
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As to your question, gzip is NOT zip compatable. It is the standard used by Linux and others for many years (though they're turning to bzip2 now).
When I first heard about the compression in Panther it WAS zip and there was a big outcry about using a Windows-centric compression scheme. Now the Apple documentation on Panther mentions gzip as the compression scheme and I assumed that it was a reaction to the outcry against zip.
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Originally posted by LordJavac:
As to your question, gzip is NOT zip compatable. It is the standard used by Linux and others for many years (though they're turning to bzip2 now).
When I first heard about the compression in Panther it WAS zip and there was a big outcry about using a Windows-centric compression scheme. Now the Apple documentation on Panther mentions gzip as the compression scheme and I assumed that it was a reaction to the outcry against zip.
Ummm... WinZip has no problems uncompressing gzip (*.gz) files whatsoever.
Though Panther creates .zip files.
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No one has ever said exactly HOW Panther supports .zip, is it like Stuffit, where you just name some thing blah.zip and the system zips it?
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Originally posted by Mac Guru:
No one has ever said exactly HOW Panther supports .zip, is it like Stuffit, where you just name some thing blah.zip and the system zips it?
There's an "Archive [file name]" option in the Finder's contextual (or Action) menu. I don't believe renaming the file .zip will compress it, though if I'm wrong I'd be happy to be so.
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*edit*
*ooops, don't reply when the thread has been sitting open for five minutes.*
Son of a beach...
I had been posting that it is a File menu item - 'Make Archive'.
More important... YES, just tack .zip on the name and it's done. Sweet.
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Damn, maybe not. The file won't decompress.
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Originally posted by Mac Guru:
like Stuffit, where you just name some thing blah.zip and the system zips it?
Didn't know stuffit did that. That's faster than going through the folders to find dropstuff. Hmm. Mixed feelings about this feature but seems cool enough.
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Originally posted by Xeo:
Didn't know stuffit did that. That's faster than going through the folders to find dropstuff. Hmm. Mixed feelings about this feature but seems cool enough.
You need StuffIt Deluxe to do this of course.
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And Stuffit Deluxe compress-on-rename feature is built around a Kernel Extension, and already proven to not be crash free. I uninstalled it as soon as I documented a bit about it.
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But how will we know our Mac warez^H^H^H^H^H downloads from Windows downloads if both are distributed as .zip in the future?
Perhaps .zip will mostly be the compression of choice for quick email stuff, while software distribution will still usually be .dmg...
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Originally posted by Jim_MDP:
Damn, maybe not. The file won't decompress.
Yeah, you're probably just making the system think it's a ZIP, but it's still just renamed...
Woulda been kinda nice, I suppose.
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Originally posted by Wevah:
Yeah, you're probably just making the system think it's a ZIP, but it's still just renamed...
Woulda been kinda nice, I suppose.
Yup, it had me all excited for 30 seconds.
I had just done a test on a small jpeg so when I tacked .zip on another one ,but in a finder window, and it changed to the new zipper icon... well, so I was wrong.
Hey... it could happen. 
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For any who are interested in exactly how it's done:
Ta da!
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