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Oct 4, 2017, 09:03 PM
 
The biggest problem with getting things to the folks in Puerto Rico that need them is that their infrastructure has been pretty well wrecked. Cruise lines have been bringing in stuff for several days now. Now that port facilities are at least operational, the stuff can be offloaded. Now, how many truck drivers are available, and how many trucks/trailers are drivable? And how passable are roads?

I think the real issue is that FEMA is a slow-moving government agency that can't react quickly. And our POTUS spends too much time tweeting and not enough directing the military to head in there with helicopters and start moving supplies from where they sit on the docks to where people need them.

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Oct 5, 2017, 09:15 AM
 
Get ready for Nate, New Orleans.
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Oct 7, 2017, 03:51 PM
 
Originally Posted by And.reg View Post
Get ready for Nate, New Orleans.
Some folks in the state are already freaking out.

I don't blame them.
     
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Oct 7, 2017, 06:28 PM
 
Nate sure doesn't look pretty.

I don't think I'm the only one who's tired of these storms. Whether it's because of "climate change" or just that we were spared for a decade and now the storms look like Mother Nature has just saved them up, from my vantage point, we're going to be rebuilding a lot of cities, and it will take a very long time to do it.

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Oct 8, 2017, 09:35 AM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
from my vantage point, we're going to be rebuilding a lot of cities
I agree, but many of them won't be cities along the immediate coast. Cities more inland will need to be rebuilt or restructured to accommodate the immediate population needs from people who "lost everything" and "just need a place."
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Oct 8, 2017, 06:29 PM
 
Nate's coming to rain on our parade.

Seriously, we were going to have a parade for indigenous peoples tomorrow and it looks like Nate's going to ruin it.

On a more serious note, if you're in the path stay safe.
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Oct 8, 2017, 09:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
Nate's coming to rain on our parade.

Seriously, we were going to have a parade for indigenous peoples tomorrow and it looks like Nate's going to ruin it.

On a more serious note, if you're in the path stay safe.
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Oct 11, 2017, 12:05 PM
 
I still can't make head or tails of the situation in PR. I don't trust the media not to sensationalize it and I don't trust the administration not to pretend everything's under control when it's not. I don't think things are as dire for most Puerto Rican's as some of the citizens highlighted by the media but I also get the feeling this has been mismanaged from the get go and after Irma and Harvey the level of engagement has not been equal to its forebears.
     
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Oct 11, 2017, 12:22 PM
 
Island logistics are an order of magnitude more difficult than CONUS logistics.

PR got ****ing flattened. The last time it got hit by a hurricane this strong was in 1928.

They've definitely screwed stuff up, but the response would appear disparate even if it was perfect.
     
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Oct 11, 2017, 12:52 PM
 
The Jones Act waiver only lasted 10 days - it's expired already. And the administration says it won't be renewed.

So what was the point in helping PR rebuild - deliver an emergency supply of toilet paper? It should have been waived for at least 90 days IMO.
     
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Oct 11, 2017, 12:53 PM
 
It's going to take a decade to recover from this fully, mother nature is much better at ****ing things up than humans are at putting things back together. All assets for getting things fixed are already in the pipe, but it's going to take untold man hours to do it.
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Originally Posted by reader50 View Post
The Jones Act waiver only lasted 10 days - it's expired already. And the administration says it won't be renewed.

So what was the point in helping PR rebuild - deliver an emergency supply of toilet paper? It should have been waived for at least 90 days IMO.
...and forever, honestly. But yeah the effort was going to require more than 10 days
     
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Oct 11, 2017, 07:25 PM
 
It stuff like this https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/sta...43002333761536
The EPA cites reports of Puerto Ricans “obtaining, or trying to obtain, drinking water from wells at hazardous waste “Superfund” sites”


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Oct 12, 2017, 09:19 AM
 
Asshole threatened to stop PRs relief effort.
     
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Oct 12, 2017, 12:08 PM
 
I assume it was via a twitter rant that resembles something a 12 year old girl would say.

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Oct 12, 2017, 12:22 PM
 
Correct
     
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Oct 12, 2017, 12:30 PM
 
Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
I assume it was via a twitter rant that resembles something a 12 year old girl would say.
Hey, there are plenty of 12-year-old girls better qualified than Trump to be president!
     
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Oct 12, 2017, 02:55 PM
 
Well PR doesn't usually get decimated so bad even with hurricanes. Thing is, PR faces the same challenges as many islands in the west Atlantic. They have to decide if they want to spend that much money rebuilding, given the annual threat of extreme hurricanes. When I was growing up, it was rare to see a Category 5 hurricane on the news, and even more rare for one to make landfall (e.g., Andrew in '92). Now it's like every year there are multiple C4 and C5 hurricanes, and more of them are making landfall it seems. West Atlantic islands are at higher risk than ever of being ruined by extreme hurricanes. So, for the government to say "You've been getting decimated by too many hurricanes, so move on, we're not going to deliver supplies anymore" doesn't work. Spending taxpayer's money (ours or theirs) to keep rebuilding every year is not sustainable if islands overpopulate. And we don't know if hurricanes will get worse in 20 years. It's a ball of wax. What do you do if you're the PR government over the following 5 years?
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Oct 12, 2017, 03:16 PM
 
That's not what the government said.
     
 
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