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Jan 31, 2020, 08:46 AM
 
We have joined the latest gaming platform, but don't have many games yet.

Zelda, of course; have not played it much.

Untitled Goose Game - fun, silly, and harder than you think it would be. We finished the main game and are going to do the bonus rounds.

At some point we will pick up a mario kart because of course you need that.

Any good multiplayer games? We have rocket league on the ps4 already.
     
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Jan 31, 2020, 11:54 AM
 
I’m out of the loop, but Splatoon 2 had good buzz.
     
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Feb 1, 2020, 09:52 PM
 
I don’t know how much this thread contributed, but I had a sudden urge to get a Switch.

The ancient Nintendo collection is what’s driving it.
     
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Feb 2, 2020, 01:24 PM
 
Had a chopsocky nostalgia night. Final Fight, Knights of the Round, and River City Ransom.
     
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Feb 2, 2020, 09:23 PM
 
So it's worth checking out these ancient ports then!
     
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Feb 3, 2020, 01:18 AM
 
That’s actually a hard question to answer.

The unambiguous good thing about these bundles is quantity of games. If one isn’t holding your attention, here’s a bunch more which might. Let your ADHD tendencies have free rein.

From there, it gets a little more dicey. They’re a museum of 20th century video games. Well worth the price of admission if that’s something you geek out about, but probably not if it’s not calling to you as much or more than what 2020 has to offer.
     
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Mar 17, 2020, 01:06 PM
 
Got some time on my hands, so I picked up BotW.

I like it. It’s clearly well done.

OMG does it start out sloooooooooow. I played all day yesterday and still feel like I’m in the tutorial.
     
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Mar 17, 2020, 01:26 PM
 
Agreed...

we picked up Luigi's Mansion for the pandemic home time, and borrowed mario kart for a while. Mario kart is just better than all other racing games. We have some for PS4 that are just not as fun.
     
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Mar 17, 2020, 01:36 PM
 
I’ve been eying that, because I’ve had a sudden itch* for a racer.

I’m torn between that, and something more where you twiddle around with real cars.


*I think what I’m really looking for is Wipeout, which is F-Zero in the Nintendoverse.
     
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Mar 18, 2020, 07:12 PM
 
It’s picked up a bit, I’m out of the tutorial zone at least, but I’m getting my ass kicked a lot.

I dislike weapon breakage.

Hunting is fun, though, so I’m looking forward to some grinding today.

Decided to figure out the cooking system via experimentation instead of guides.
     
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Mar 20, 2020, 03:59 PM
 
Maybe tomorrow I will start BoW myself. I've mostly watched the kid play. Not as exciting as Horizon Zero Dawn, but fun.

Watching the kid play luigi's mansion is not that interesting... too easy looking? We're going to unlock the extra 2 player levels.

Animal crossing, I didn't think much of it (cute animals = little kids game) but reviews are good?
     
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Mar 20, 2020, 10:56 PM
 
Oh... I had the original Animal Crossing. Don’t let the style put you off.

It was brilliant. Exactly the type of game which makes Nintendo what it is.

Have you seen/played Stardew Valley?
     
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Mar 21, 2020, 03:25 PM
 
Older kid had that on DS, I think?
     
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Mar 21, 2020, 05:31 PM
 
That may have been something else. I don’t think that was ported to the DS.

Take a look at the Stardew Valley page on the Switch store and see if it grabs you or the fam. It’s an idyllic “life simulator” on a farm. If you’ve seen or heard of Harvest Moon, it’s cut from the same cloth, but adds a bajillion more things to do.

Stardew Valley and Animal Crossing are very different, but they’re both aiming at the same place, which is why I brought it up as a point of reference.

Stardew Valley is easier to understand at a glance. It’s “Sim Farm”.

Animal crossing is like, I dunno... offline Second Life? It’s not really quite a game in the traditional sense. It’s a place you visit for awhile each day. Unlike in a normal sim game, time isn’t accelerated. If you want to catch the fish that only appears at night, it has to be night in real life.

An unfair comparison is it plays a little like a mobile game you can only play for a bit and then have to wait awhile before going back. It’s not trying to jack real money out of you though, which is a key difference in how that shakes out.
     
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Mar 26, 2020, 10:07 AM
 
I play Knights of the Round, I quite like it. I'm also searching for new games to play since I am now stuck here at my home due to the virus.
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Mar 28, 2020, 11:58 AM
 
It took a long time, but I’ve finally come around to the conclusion Breath of the Wild is fantastic. It breaks a ton of really crummy conventions, and I didn’t realize at first it’s offering something better.
     
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Mar 31, 2020, 12:12 PM
 
There's a lot to like about BotW. However, comparing it to another game I love, Horizon Zero Dawn, a few things are annoying:

weapons: breakage in the middle of a fight isn't cool. Finding the seed guy and upgrading your weapon stash size is helpful though.

arrow crafting: can we just make these? scounging for arrows is boring.

food crafting: takes so darn long, yes it's cute, yes you can skip, but I wish once you discovered a recipe you could just make it again by selecting it.

aiming and movement: the joycons still feel so tiny in the hand, and the stick toggle for aiming a bow is not as sensitive and smooth (twss, I know) as the playstation controllers. We shut off the aiming using the tilt sensor because that was also fussy as heck.

Don't get me started on the robots that can't be killed.
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Apr 1, 2020, 08:46 PM
 
Sadly, the foodcraft can't be redeemed. In addition to needing a management system, it has very little depth. By far the biggest strike against the game.

This may be a dumb question, but are you using just the tilt sensor for precise aiming? Either the game didn’t make it clear, or I missed it, but it took hours for me to realize that’s how it works. Once I did, aiming went from horrible to so good it kinda blew my mind.

All the other things you mentioned are exactly the type of things I hated but have come around to thinking are awesome. Most games in this genre have a similar set of underlying “game mechanics”. BotW completely rewrites those game mechanics, and it’s painful to play at first because of it. To use a geeky analogy, it’s like trying to learn a new edition of D&D without being given the rules, or even being told the rules have changed.

The biggest change in the “rules”, of which the unkillable robot is an extreme example, is combat has no value in and of itself. It doesn’t help you level up, the loot is crummy, you mess up your weapons, and monsters don’t even stay dead. It’s just a drain on your resources. Most other games of this type aren’t like this at all, and the change requires a completely different set of strategies.
     
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Apr 2, 2020, 07:52 AM
 
We shut off the tilt sensing since it seemed very fussy. Now what I do to aim is walk.

If you are right about combat being meaningless, then we can just avoid it all.. except I think at some point we will have to kill the unkillable machines. Right now I'm at a temple attempting to learn attack moves and have burnt through all my weapons. Recently I did get to sell all my lousy monster horns and amber to get a nifty cloak though.

How bout them stone giants? Beatable, or just run away very fast?

I'm considering one of these $20 adapters so I can use the PS4 controller, which might make a difference ergonomically. Plus not needing to buy more joycons for mario kart.
https://smile.amazon.com/Wireless-Co.../dp/B07B7LMM52
since that adapter only counts for one 1/2, might be better to just get another controller for $30?
https://smile.amazon.com/Wireless-Co.../dp/B0822S41MD
     
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Apr 2, 2020, 10:51 PM
 
Roughly, the only times I feel you should get into combat are because a...

Quest requires it.
Monster is in the way (you can almost always climb around them).
Monster has weapons worth stealing.
Monster is a skeleton (easy kill).

The other 95% of the time it’s not worth it. Just run away. Haven’t even tried to kill the stone giant.

It’s only slightly unfair to call BotW a stealth game.


I remember that shrine. It ate up almost all my weapons. Know that there are puh-lenty of shrines. Skip the ones you don’t like and come back later.


One last dumb question... do you have the joycons in that holder thingy, or are you using one in each hand?
     
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Apr 3, 2020, 09:01 AM
 
In the holder. didn't even occur to me to try one in each hand!

My early attempts to kill the stone giant with bombs were somewhat promising, but too slow. I was able to blast it's arms off but they regenerate too quickly. Perhaps you are meant to just get to the chest on its back? It would be somewhat annoying to go through the effort only to find amber.
     
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Apr 3, 2020, 10:20 PM
 
Oh... it’s good you didn’t try one in each hand.

That was the only thing I could think of making it not work. I don’t know what the deal is. It’s totally awesome on this end. Before I started using the tilt sensor I did the walk to aim thing, too... which is awful.

On the subject of arrows, you mentioned having to scrounge them up. This is another example of something I hated. It’s a game mechanic which actively sucks out the fun. It had me hoarding arrows. Hoarding arrows isn’t fun, shooting them is fun.

Turns out this was another place where the game rewrites the rules. The game mechanic they came up with is 99% shooting and 1% concern over supply. It overwhelmingly prioritizes the fun part, so it’s a great mechanic, and I love it.

The problem is it makes no real-world sense, so knowledge of the real world not only doesn’t help figuring it out, it actively hinders it. Even worse is there are other game mechanics which lead you in the wrong direction. I’d say I was at least halfway through the game before it finally clicked.

So, you can try to figure it out, which for me was ultimately an enjoyable experience despite the painful part, or...

 
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