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OS X and Intel - Change a Windows PC to a Mac???
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I read today that OS X was designed from the get-go to operate on Intel chips. So what would it take now to convert a Windows based machine, like one from Dell, to an Apple machine running OS X given no processor change is necessary???
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Won't happen. Schiller already said so.
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Originally Posted by Randman
Won't happen. Schiller already said so.
Thanks Randman.
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Originally Posted by Randman
Won't happen. Schiller already said so.
I couldn't tell if you were being a little ironic or not. You can run MacOS X on the PowerPC-based AmigaOne and Pegasos machines, so it will happen.
The legality of it is one matter and it may not be entirely native. The solution I mentioned is a stripped down Linux kernel. It boots transparently into MacOnLinux as if it was running OS X natively.
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You must observe the semantics. What will happen is exactly what SGI did with the x86 320 and 540 series. A special Frimware (BIOS) that runs the underlying hardware. You won't see a mobo at CompUSA that you can build a OS X box with.
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Originally Posted by Tyler McAdams
You must observe the symantecs.... what will happen is exactly what SGI did with the x86 320 and 540 series. A special Frimware (BIOS) that runs the underlying hardware. You won't see a mobo at CompUSA that you can build a OS X box with it.
It will boot into OS X and at pretty much full speed (or faster than the newest Mac if Apple happen to be between revisions)
Emulation, however silent, doesn't make a Dell into a Mac though. But then neither does having a cheap plastic piece of tat on your desk!
Chris
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Intel CPU does not = IBM/PC (Wintel as known)
The CPU will be intel…chipset, etc a proprietary co-development. In fact, the socket may not even be the same.
You will not be buying parts at NewEgg to build an OS X box anytime soon.
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I think the difference is that Apple will make a special chipset and not include drivers in OS X for standard chipsets. Of course, nothing is stopping you from developing your own chipset...
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One word
pearpc.
If an emulator was built for the PPC how much more efficient and speedy could one be when the CPUs are the same.
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I would think there would be a slown down in the processing power, over the mac format now. Intel needs more mhz to complete the same task as a Risc processor. Risc and Cisc were never ment to compete becuase of how they do the computing, imo it was a stupid move. Apple seels to a specific market and I think people at apple are getting gready and want more people to come over.
As stated above u can not go into compusa and get parts to build one some time soon or who knows when.
As I tell others when it happens I will belive it, i rather stick to my powerbook for now.
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Originally Posted by Maflynn
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pearpc.
If an emulator was built for the PPC how much more efficient and speedy could one be when the CPUs are the same.
MacOnLinux is a much better example and, like I said, already runs on non-Apple PowerPC machines.
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I suppose a virtual machine emulator like MacOnLinux or VMware could let you run OS X after a fashion. However, you'll be missing the excellent hardware integration and the "just-works" factor of a real Mac. That might not be a bad thing - it could give PC users their first taste of OS X and convince them to switch.
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Seems like you'll be able to dual boot OS X and Windows on a Macintel. That should be interesting. 
Macintel. *shudder*
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I would wait for more details, especially about the developer machines. Let's hope some developer cracks wind...
For now, I'm willing to believe in Apple x86 machines with proprietary Apple motherboards, Open Firmware and expansion boards with the same ROMs used in PPC machines. Those will NOT be compatible witn Windoze, but FreeDOS may get some action.
If course, you could run OpenDarwin, but what for?
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Originally Posted by tigas
I For now, I'm willing to believe in Apple x86 machines with proprietary Apple motherboards, Open Firmware
x86 Macs will not use Open Firmware... 
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