[Dakarʒ]

This isn't going to end well.

[ort888]

Originally Posted by Aeternus 

Tell me ONE benefit of having an extremely glossy screen compared to a matte screen.

It can help you spot ninjas sneaking up behind you when you are at your computer. Sometimes a split second can be the difference between life and death.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Aeternus 

1. No video input. Dell manages to put like 5 freaking inputs on their displays, yet Apple can't even put ONE on their iMac! LAME!

Non issue for most people. And Don't forget, this is NOT just a monitor, it's a computer.
How many of Dell's AIO computers ahev AV input. 0
Yes, I know, the number of Dell's AOI is 0, too. Point is: Apple's to Oranges comparison.

Originally Posted by Aeternus 

2. GLOSSY SCREENS. Okay, I don't understand this. People have wanted MATTE screens on TVs for a long time, because it reduces glare. Same for laptops.

Can't comment until I see them in person.

Originally Posted by Aeternus 

3. Black border around display. WHY!? The thin aluminum frame makes the display look 'bigger', but it's not.

Agreed. From a design perspective, this is not attractive. I'd rather have more aluminum cover that "black zone".

Originally Posted by Aeternus 

4. Crappy keyboard. Nuff said.

How do you know ? Tried it in person yet ?
I'll wait with my judgment until I can lay my hands on one of those new keyboards.

-t

[Aeternus]

Fine, ignore video input, I just think it makes sense since the things have remotes, upscale DVDs, and hook up to home theater audio systems via optical audio. Also, frontrow lets you share music, movies, photos, and stuff from your COUCH. That just makes sense to me, that something like that would be in the living room, and people MIGHT just MAYBE want to hook up a game console to it. But you know what? FINE. IGNORE THAT.

We still have:

1. The NEW videocard, the fast one, the Radeon 2600 HD PRO, is SLOWER than the old 7600GT! It is SLOWER! WHY!? Why should I buy this new one, with an inferior card?!

2. GLOSSY SCREENS. Why? More glare! LOTS more! It doesn't make sense!

3. Black border= UGLY.

[Rumor]

A glossy screen has better color saturation. Considering most people work during daylight hours, the average user has a tendancy to use it more in the evening.

[Lateralus]

Aeternus is in time out for a while.

Feel free to enjoy the rest of the thread, people.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Aeternus 

1. The NEW videocard, the fast one, the Radeon 2600 HD PRO, is SLOWER than the old 7600GT! It is SLOWER! WHY!? Why should I buy this new one, with an inferior card?!

Any links ?

-t

[Dakarʒ]

Originally Posted by Rumor 

A glossy screen has better color saturation. Considering most people work during daylight hours, the average user has a tendancy to use it more in the evening.

I live in Alaska where its day 6 months a year. I find this terribly inconvenient.

It's a lie.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Lateralus 

Zap.

Well, he DID get a warning

-t

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Rumor 

A glossy screen has better color saturation. Considering most people work during daylight hours, the average user has a tendancy to use it more in the evening.

Dumb argument. So you can't use Macs for work anymore ?

-t

[Andhee]

Originally Posted by Aeternus 

Also, frontrow lets you share music, movies, photos, and stuff from your COUCH. That just makes sense to me, that something like that would be in the living room, and people MIGHT just MAYBE want to hook up a game console to it.

So what? I have a couch in my computer room, is that such a crime?

Originally Posted by Aeternus 

1. The NEW videocard, the fast one, the Radeon 2600 HD PRO, is SLOWER than the old 7600GT! It is SLOWER! WHY!? Why should I buy this new one, with an inferior card?!

Where's your proof btw? (don't rant at me if you find some, you can just feel smug about it if you like).

Originally Posted by Aeternus 

3. Black border= UGLY.

Apple wouldn't have put it on if they didn't think it was attractive.

[ort888]

I was really hoping for a "one more thing". Where are our new iPods?

Also, it's interesting that they are updating the Mini but didn't talk about it at all.

[Rumor]

Rob, take some Xanax.

[awaspaas]

Minis refreshed today, not killed!

[Dakarʒ]

Thank god. Of course, I'll want one whenever they add some sort of next-gen HD drive in them, so I'm on pace to purchase in late 2009...

[Rumor]

Radeon HD 2600 Pro (DDR2)
Stream Processing Units 120
Shader Clock Speed 600MHz
Core Clock Speed 600MHz
Texture Units 8
Render Back-Ends 4
Memory Frame Buffer Size 256MB*
Memory Interface Width 128-bit
Memory Clock Speed 500MHz
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec) 16
# of Transistors 180M
Manufacturing Process 65-nm
MSRP $89-$99

[Andhee]

Originally Posted by awaspaas 

Minis refreshed today, not killed!

Oh wicked, I was actually hoping that would happen.

[ort888]

When are these gonna be up at Apple.com... come on guys. We want to see.

[Rumor]

GeForce 7600 GT
Graphics Bus Technology PCI Express®
Memory 256MB
Memory Interface 128-bit
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec) 22.4
Fill Rate (Billion pixels/sec) 6.7
Vertices/Second (Millions) 700
Pixels per clock (peak) 12
RAMDACs (MHz) 400

GeForce 7600 GT
GeForce 7600 GS

[Andhee]

Originally Posted by Rumor 

Radeon HD 2600 Pro (DDR2)
Stream Processing Units 120
Shader Clock Speed 600MHz
Core Clock Speed 600MHz
Texture Units 8
Render Back-Ends 4
Memory Frame Buffer Size 256MB*
Memory Interface Width 128-bit
Memory Clock Speed 500MHz
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec) 16
# of Transistors 180M
Manufacturing Process 65-nm
MSRP $89-$99

What does that mean in non-technical terms?

[Dakarʒ]

Yes, I want hi-res pics.

[Ghoser777]

Man, I just bought iWork '06 a little while ago...

[Chuckit]

I wanted to ask Rob to back up his claim about the video card, but it seems he's been banned. Can anybody else comment?

[awaspaas]

Store is up!

[Rumor]

Originally Posted by turtle777 

Dumb argument. So you can't use Macs for work anymore ?

-t

Geez, thanks for the insult.

The glare is only really a problem when you look at it from a distance or an angle, not directly in front.

[Dakarʒ]

Originally Posted by Andhee 

What does that mean in non-technical terms?

BOOM!

Originally Posted by awaspaas 

Store is up!

...and it locked my Safari the first time.

[Rumor]

Originally Posted by Andhee 

What does that mean in non-technical terms?

Um, this?

ATI Radeon™ HD 2600 Series - GPU Specifications
ATI Radeon™ HD 2600 Feature Summary
390 million transistors on 65nm fabrication process
128-bit DDR2/GDDR3/GDDR4 memory interface
Ring Bus Memory Controller
Fully distributed design with 256-bit internal ring bus for memory reads and writes
Unified Superscalar Shader Architecture
120 stream processing units
Dynamic load balancing and resource allocation for vertex, geometry, and pixel shaders
Common instruction set and texture unit access supported for all types of shaders
Dedicated branch execution units and texture address processors
128-bit floating point precision for all operations
Command processor for reduced CPU overhead
Shader instruction and constant caches
Up to 40 texture fetches per clock cycle
Up to 128 textures per pixel
Fully associative multi-level texture cache design
DXTC and 3Dc+ texture compression
High resolution texture support (up to 8192 x 8192)
Fully associative texture Z/stencil cache designs
Double-sided hierarchical Z/stencil buffer
Early Z test, Re-Z, Z Range optimization, and Fast Z Clear
Lossless Z & stencil compression (up to 128:1)
Lossless color compression (up to 8:1)
8 render targets (MRTs) with anti-aliasing support
Physics processing support
Full support for Microsoft® DirectX® 10.0
Shader Model 4.0
Geometry Shaders
Stream Output
Integer and Bitwise Operations
Alpha to Coverage
Constant Buffers
State Objects
Texture Arrays
Dynamic Geometry Acceleration
High performance vertex cache
Programmable tessellation unit
Accelerated geometry shader path for geometry amplification
Memory read/write cache for improved stream output performance
Anti-aliasing features
Multi-sample anti-aliasing (up to 8 samples per pixel)
Up to 24x Custom Filter Anti-Aliasing (CFAA) for improved quality
Adaptive super-sampling and multi-sampling
Temporal anti-aliasing
Gamma correct
Super AA (CrossFire configurations only)
All anti-aliasing features compatible with HDR rendering
Texture filtering features
2x/4x/8x/16x high quality adaptive anisotropic filtering modes (up to 128 taps per pixel)
128-bit floating point HDR texture filtering
Bicubic filtering
sRGB filtering (gamma/degamma)
Percentage Closer Filtering (PCF)
Depth & stencil texture (DST) format support
Shared exponent HDR (RGBE 9:9:9:5) texture format support
CrossFire™ Multi-GPU Technology
Scale up rendering performance and image quality with 2 or more GPUs
Integrated compositing engine
High performance dual channel interconnect
ATI Avivo™ HD Video and Display Platform
Dedicated unified video decoder (UVD) for H.264/AVC and VC-1 video formats
High definition (HD) playback of both Blu-ray and HD DVD formats
Hardware MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4/DivX video decode acceleration
Motion compensation and iDCT (inverse discrete cosine transform)
Avivo Video Post Processor
Color space conversion
Chroma subsampling format conversion
Horizontal and vertical scaling
Gamma correction
High Quality Video Post Processing
Advanced vector adaptive per-pixel de-interlacing
De-blocking and noise reduction filtering
Detail enhancement
Inverse telecine (2:2 and 3:2 pull-down correction)
Bad edit correction
Two independent display controllers
Drive two displays simultaneously with independent resolutions, refresh rates, color controls and video overlays for each display
Full 30-bit display processing
Programmable piecewise linear gamma correction, color correction, and color space conversion
Spatial/temporal dithering provides 30-bit color quality on 24-bit and 18-bit displays
High quality pre- and post-scaling engines, with underscan support for all display outputs
Content-adaptive de-flicker filtering for interlaced displays
Fast, glitch-free mode switching
Hardware cursor
Two integrated dual-link DVI display outputs
Each supports 18-, 24-, and 30-bit digital displays at all resolutions up to 1920x1200 (single-link DVI) or 2560x1600 (dual-link DVI)1
Each includes a dual-link HDCP encoder with on-chip key storage for high resolution playback of protected content2
Two integrated 400 MHz 30-bit RAMDACs
Each supports analog displays connected by VGA at all resolutions up to 2048x15361
HDMI output support
Supports all display resolutions up to 1920x10801
Integrated HD audio controller with multi-channel (5.1) AC3 support, enabling a plug-and-play cable-less audio solution
Integrated AMD Xilleon™ HDTV encoder
Provides high quality analog TV output (component/S-video/composite)
Supports SDTV and HDTV resolutions
Underscan and overscan compensation
MPEG-2, MPEG-4, DivX, WMV9, VC-1, and H.264/AVC encoding and transcoding
Seamless integration of pixel shaders with video in real time
VGA mode support on all display outputs
PCI Express x16 bus interface
OpenGL 2.0 support

[Andhee]

Im guessing this is bad.

Originally Posted by Apple Store UK

Internal Server Error

[Rumor]

I can see Rob freaking out, screaming and banging his keyboard around for an "unfair" ban. Like the video of the German kid and the computer game.

[theNewiMacsSuck]

Luckily I am impossible to ban. Thanks for banning me for DISAGREEING WITH YOU lateralASS. Jesus. I was NOT breaking any forum rules, I was making legit complaints! Yep, we have a mod here banning me for TWO WEEKS for writing about why I dislike the new imac's specs. Only at the NN!

As for the videocard specs:

Palit HD 2600 PRO and HD 2600 XT Sonic :: TweakTown

Gigabyte's GeForce 7 Series Tested :: TweakTown

@ 1024X768, playing FEAR:

7600GT: 41FPS
2600HDPRO: 30FPS

I can keep digging for more examples if you want. It is a SLOWER card. The new border is UGLY, as other people have pointed out, and glossy screens make no freaking sense. Go try to buy a TV or LCD TV. Try to find one that advertises a 'glossy screen' as a 'good' feature. You won't find one! People have wanted matte screens for years, to reduce glare!!!

[Dakarʒ]

The store is fubared for me.

The iMac really doesn't look all that different, but the dark logo looks awesome. And boy is that keyboard thin.

[G Barnett]

And the Apple Store seems to be dying under a stampede of RDF-infused maniacs.... hehe.

[Eug]

On WIndows:





The 7600 GT is slower than the 8600 GT, but not by much.

[awaspaas]

[Rumor]

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ 

The store is fubared for me.

The iMac really doesn't look all that different, but the dark logo looks awesome. And boy is that keyboard thin.

Works for me, but slower than molasses in January.

[::maroma::]

Checked out the new iMac ad. Pretty neat, just shows off the beautiful form factor. Of course, in typical Apple form, no info on specs or features. Catchy tune.

One thing I noticed that was odd to me was at the end of the ad, when the keyboard and mouse show up, the mouse is on the left side. Never seen it presented like that before. Musta been a lefty who produced the ad.

[OldManMac]

Originally Posted by Lateralus 

Aeternus is in time out for a while.

Feel free to enjoy the rest of the thread, people.

What other jokes do you tell?

[awaspaas]

Originally Posted by G Barnett 

And the Apple Store seems to be dying under a stampede of RDF-infused maniacs.... hehe.

Heh, and now they have the post-it back up!

[Rumor]

No sooner did I say that, I get bumped and receive the "Store is being updated" page.

[Dakarʒ]

That'll teach 'em.

[Rumor]

Hmm, a .mac account just may be worthwhile now.

[Dakarʒ]

10GB isn't that much porn.

wait, what?

[cjrivera]

Wired keyboard has a number pad, but the wireless doesn't?

[awaspaas]

Anybody want to call an Apple store and see when they'll have the new stuff in stock?

[Rumor]

Pfft, no need to store porn when there is a working connection to the tubes.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by theNewiMacsSuck 

Luckily I am impossible to ban.

Impossible ?

That's UNPOSSIBLE !!!1!1!1oneone

-t

[Voch]

I got the Apple Store to load very slowly before it went down again a few minutes ago. It said Mac minis will have 1.83Ghz/2.0Ghz C2D processors, 80/120GB hard drives for $599 and $799 respectively. The low-end was still a combo drive.

[awaspaas]

Originally Posted by cjrivera 

Wired keyboard has a number pad, but the wireless doesn't?

How about that! That kinda sucks

[Dakarʒ]

Whoa, I missed his reincarnation. It's hard to kill Imhotep.

[Rumor]

Originally Posted by theNewiMacsSuck 

Luckily I am impossible to ban. Thanks for banning me for DISAGREEING WITH YOU lateralASS. Jesus. I was NOT breaking any forum rules, I was making legit complaints! Yep, we have a mod here banning me for TWO WEEKS for writing about why I dislike the new imac's specs. Only at the NN!

As for the videocard specs:

Palit HD 2600 PRO and HD 2600 XT Sonic :: TweakTown

Gigabyte's GeForce 7 Series Tested :: TweakTown

@ 1024X768, playing FEAR:

7600GT: 41FPS
2600HDPRO: 30FPS

I can keep digging for more examples if you want. It is a SLOWER card. The new border is UGLY, as other people have pointed out, and glossy screens make no freaking sense. Go try to buy a TV or LCD TV. Try to find one that advertises a 'glossy screen' as a 'good' feature. You won't find one! People have wanted matte screens for years, to reduce glare!!!

How many times do you need to say? You've posted this several times now. We read it the first time.

Chill out. You're getting way to worked up.