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Is this car ugly enough to be cool?
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The subaru XT, or XT6:
Retractable door-handle flaps
Single front wiper blade
Steering wheel with a single vertical and a single horizontal spoke
Pistol-grip shifter
Microprocessor engine and transmission management
Steering wheel with both tilt and reach adjustment
Instrument cluster that tilted with the steering wheel
Furthermore, some models were equipped with additional features:
Digital instrument cluster that tilted with the steering wheel
Trip computer with range/fuel management facilities
Pneumatic suspension with height control
Push-button four wheel drive (later changed to all wheel drive)
Thinking about getting one of htese for a daily driver in a year or so. They're cheap... little baby turbo... awd... and manual transmission.
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Nope def not. Those wrap around windows are brutal.
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Not even a tinge of 80s retroness cool?
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Originally Posted by LordOfSkirts
Not even a tinge of 80s retroness cool?
80's cars not so much. I mean it looks like a saturn and those pop-up lights always break.
The only way to salvage cool out of it is to give it some ridiculous metallic paint job with flames from the tires.
THEN it will be so ugly it is cool.
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Any guesses as to what Ca$h's next handle will be?
How 'bout "UpSkirts"?
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I have pop up lights on my Miata. 15 years and they haven't broke yet.
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My advice:
1) Don't pimp it out... or it will look like junk.
2) Make it look like this:
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Originally Posted by Rumor
I have pop up lights on my Miata. 15 years and they haven't broke yet.
REALLY? OMG you mean they don't have a 100% failure rate? AMAZING!
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Originally Posted by Landos Mustache
80's cars not so much. I mean it looks like a saturn and those pop-up lights always break.
Originally Posted by Landos Mustache
REALLY? OMG you mean they don't have a 100% failure rate? AMAZING!
You should be more careful.
I had a Probe for a few years with both pop up headlights and wraparound windows. I liked it.
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Originally Posted by production_coordinator
My advice:
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2) Make it look like this:
I saw on TV you can still buy 'new' DeLoreans. I wish I had 40,000 to spare...
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Originally Posted by LordOfSkirts
Not even a tinge of 80s retroness cool?
I like it. Hate the spoiler though.
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Originally Posted by Gossamer
You should be more careful.
Thanks safty officer Gossamer
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I think this might be more up your alley.
And it has the same coolness factor.
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Originally Posted by Landos Mustache
Thanks safty officer Gossamer
You can't gripe about his 'extreme' opinion when he's simply responding to yours.
OT: I'd drive it. Turbo, AWD, 5spd...is there a better recipe for fun?
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Originally Posted by Landos Mustache
80's cars not so much. I mean it looks like a saturn and those pop-up lights always break.
My wife's 89 accord has pop up headlights and 239,000 miles. Still work just fine. I think they break when you're a dumb secretary bitch who leaves them down in the winter before a huge snow/ice storm. Luckily, my wife has the intelligence needed to leave them in the up position during the winter.
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Some of the pop-up lights did have a rep for breaking.
Ones that used vacuum eventually had broken vacuum hoses, or bad boosters for them.
Some that use little plastic gears eventually broke. Replacing the gears with delrin ones helped.
Some models had more frequent motor burnout.
Still, they're for the most part a pretty common design and most cars that have them are fairly well engineered.
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i always liked the steering wheel on those things-
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Ever seen the digital dash on them? It looks like a videogame.
I think I'm definitely going ot get one of these cars. They're dirt freaking cheap, and supposedly pretty fun to drive.
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This is the ugliest car.
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GM sure is good at cranking out the ug
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Is that the Pontiac Aztec?
That's the first car I thought of when I saw this thread.
It is THE ugliest car ever made...except for possibly the AMC Gremlin.
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Um no. That thing is huge, and sorta an SUV.
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It was ugly and underpowered then and it is even more ugly and underpowered now. My take on these is Subaru was trying to be hip and cool, and just failed miserably.
Just get a Brat. At least they have the super cool death wish seats in the back.
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Originally Posted by Cody Dawg
Is that the Pontiac Aztec?
That's the first car I thought of when I saw this thread.
It is THE ugliest car ever made...except for possibly the AMC Gremlin.
You're nuts. Some gremlins were bad ass.
+ 401 v8= WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Originally Posted by Rev-O
It was ugly and underpowered then and it is even more ugly and underpowered now. My take on these is Subaru was trying to be hip and cool, and just failed miserably.
Just get a Brat. At least they have the super cool death wish seats in the back.
The XT6 had 170hp from a 2.7 liter flat six. That isn't exactly underpowered since they only weigh 2500lbs or so.
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Originally Posted by Gossamer
Turbo, AWD, 5spd...is there a better recipe for fun?
Yes, actually. No turbo, RWD, 6spd.
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How is no turbo better than turbo? Any engine with a turbo makes more power than without.... so... ????
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Originally Posted by GodOfSkirts
How is no turbo better than turbo? Any engine with a turbo makes more power than without.... so... ????
Naturally aspirated engines are always more responsive to throttle than turbo ones. And since they're more responsive and don't have a major power jump when the turbo comes on-song, they're easier to control the angle of attack in. You know, steer with your right foot, that kind of thing.
More power does not always equal more fun.
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Ah. Old people are so weird.
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No, we just know what we're talking about.
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torque curve rob, torque curve.
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I've got an amazing 116 hp inline four in my car, and it's a blast.
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Originally Posted by GodOfSkirts
Ever seen the digital dash on them? It looks like a videogame.
I think I'm definitely going ot get one of these cars. They're dirt freaking cheap, and supposedly pretty fun to drive.
Reminds me of Pole Position
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Originally Posted by Doofy
No, we just know what we're talking about.
Not all turbo cars have an 'instant on' turbo at some point in the RPM band. And... sorry.. although I think RWD is fun, really fun, I still think AWD is a blast. Especially if it's got rear bias.
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Originally Posted by d4nth3m4n
torque curve rob, torque curve.
Turbo= more torque. And a 2.7 liter flat six should be plenty torquey. Hehehe. What's really neat is their adjustable suspension... you can lift it up, or slam it down, from inside the car for onroad or offroad use. heh. Sweet.
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Originally Posted by Rumor
Reminds me of Pole Position
Definitely... pretty cheesy.
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Another shining example of the ugly designs of the 1980s; although, the dashboard's cheesiness is somewhat cool. However, I'd get sick of the Pole Position dash after a while, and it does not make up for the rest of the car looking ugly.
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Originally Posted by GodOfSkirts
Not all turbo cars have an 'instant on' turbo at some point in the RPM band.
No, but they all have a throttle response delay.
This is why proper drivers always choose a natural 911 (like a GT3) over a turbo 911 (like a GT2). They just feel better because the throttle response is sharper.
And it's why Ferrari haven't done a turbo since the 288GTO/F40 era.
And it's why Lambo don't do a turbo.
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Yeah, but that throttle response comes at a huge price: gas. Having a smaller engine with a turbo gives you the power of a larger one, without the hefty gas bills (as long as you aren't on constant boost).
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Originally Posted by GodOfSkirts
Ah. Old people are so weird.
Originally Posted by Doofy
No, we just know what we're talking about.
I can't wait till Rob is "old".
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Originally Posted by Railroader
I can't wait till Rob is "old".
When Rob gets our age it will no longer be "old"
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Originally Posted by Kevin
When Rob gets our age it will no longer be "old"
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So ugly it's cool. errr... not really, but it is the ugliest car I have ever seen.
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Originally Posted by Buckaroo
This is the ugliest car.
The Aztec.. ahhh, I can't believe anyone ever purchased one.
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Originally Posted by Mastrap
What on earth is that?
Subaru Baja.
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Originally Posted by ink
The Aztec.. ahhh, I can't believe anyone ever purchased one.
Agreed. But every Aztec owner I ever talked to LOVES it. LOVES it! I guess it takes a "certain kind" of person.
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