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Zimphire · Nov 23, 2004, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
wikipedia

Meh

Zimphire · Nov 23, 2004, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
Because Pachead, Zimph and Kilbey can't stand a single bad thing being said about the US and bitch moan and point the finger all over the place to try to disprove it.

I mean this is a friggin statistic and they still can't take it

Can't take it? When have I said otherwise? You are projecting again fanboy.

I could care less about broadband usage.

But your comparative obsession says a lot.

CD Hanks · Nov 23, 2004, 04:21 PM

This thread was derailed with the very first post. This has got to be a record.

Come to think of it, I question the real rationale of posting this in the first place.

Zimphire · Nov 23, 2004, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by Xeo:
I wasn't attacking you for the information. In fact, I wasn't even attacking you for the source. I was actually indirectly (in a direct sort of way) pointing out that Zimphire does not trust wikipedia, and would call you out on it if you didn't share his opinion. So really, my post has nothing to do with you...

No, I dislike Wikipedia no matter who uses it.

CD Hanks · Nov 23, 2004, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Meh

Say what you will, alternate links were provided that stated similar information.

Zimphire · Nov 23, 2004, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by Jaey:
And Michael Moore is dishonest because he doesn't agree with the Bush administration

No, he is dishonest because he is dishonest.

Zimphire · Nov 23, 2004, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
Say what you will, alternate links were provided that stated similar information.

Oh, I am not denying the facts. I am just saying, I'd use a different source.

Xeo · Nov 23, 2004, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
No, I dislike Wikipedia no matter who uses it.

I laughed when you said "meh". I then wondered how long it would take for you to counter my post. Not long at all. Good thing you did that in the right order! (and don't bother refuting this, I'm backing down already. I have no proof of anything, it's just I knew this would happen when I first posted it.)

CD Hanks · Nov 23, 2004, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Oh, I am not denying the facts. I am just saying, I'd use a different source.

Point taken.

phoenixboy70 · Nov 23, 2004, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
The internet was originally conceived for the U.S. military as a means of allowing a community of computers to share information over distance.

NO.

Zimphire · Nov 23, 2004, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by Xeo:
I laughed when you said "meh". I then wondered how long it would take for you to counter my post. Not long at all. Good thing you did that in the right order! (and don't bother refuting this, I'm backing down already. I have no proof of anything, it's just I knew this would happen when I first posted it.)

Whaa?

Sounds like a fanboyism.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Nov 23, 2004, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
No, he's dishonest, because he is a fat liar, simple isn't it ? Believe what you want.

Prove him wrong, and not by linking to some other site that says so cuz I think they are liars. Simple.

PacHead · Nov 23, 2004, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by phoenixboy70:
NO.

So, lemme get this straight. I cited a major Canadian newspaper, and you cited somebody's personal homepage.

So either the major Canadian newspaper has got it wrong, or your little personal homepage has got it wrong.

PacHead · Nov 23, 2004, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
Prove him wrong, and not by linking to some other site that says so cuz I think they are liars. Simple.

Nope. Been there done that. Ancient history. The dude is irrevelant, believe him if you want, I don't mind. Really.

phoenixboy70 · Nov 23, 2004, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
So either the major Canadian newspaper has got it wrong, or your little personal homepage has got it wrong.

it's not a matter of right or wrong. it's a matter of accuracy.

more interesting facts.

t6hawk · Nov 23, 2004, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Stop using snowmobiles because their all ours.

Really? Learn your history a bit better before making ignorant statements. Bombardier built the very first snowmobile many many years ago. Canada had a use for them, most places in the states don't get enough snow to even have a need for a snowmobile. Canadians created them out of necessity since they had a use for them.

Oh and for broadband, I know the province of Alberta in canada has fiber optic lines to EVERY community in the province no matter how remote. Know any US states that can boast the same claim?

PacHead · Nov 23, 2004, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by phoenixboy70:
it's not a matter of right or wrong. it's a matter of accuracy.

more interesting facts.

The WWW stuff happened decades afterwards. That has nothing to with the early developments.

phoenixboy70 · Nov 23, 2004, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
The WWW stuff happened decades afterwards. That has nothing to with the early developments.

still an integral part of the interweb as we know it today.

Captain Obvious · Nov 23, 2004, 04:53 PM

You people are such ****ing dorks.

Let me know when a faster internet connection gets you laid, then we'll talk.

Shaddim · Nov 23, 2004, 04:54 PM

The Web is just a part of the Internet. The Internet was designed and funded by ARPA, a US gov't defense agency.

Shaddim · Nov 23, 2004, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by Captain Obvious:
You people are such ****ing dorks.

Let me know when a faster internet connection gets you laid, then we'll talk.

I think it's pretty sad if a person even uses the internet to get laid. Pitiful.

PacHead · Nov 23, 2004, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by Captain Obvious:
You people are such ****ing dorks.

Let me know when a faster internet connection gets you laid, then we'll talk.

A faster net connection probably wouldn't help somebody get laid (especially if they were a dork to begin with), but I'm sure it would help certain dorks download their porn faster.

phoenixboy70 · Nov 23, 2004, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by Captain Obvious:
Let me know when a faster internet connection gets you laid...

'that desperate?

Link · Nov 23, 2004, 05:32 PM

This is a stupid argument, obviously it's not going to be easy for a country as large as the US to catch up with pint sized (high density) places like japan and various parts of Europe, despite that it happens.

In areas where the population density is adequate, technologies tend to come and go just as fast (if not faster) than they would in any other country. Out here I can get a 6mbit line if I have the money to waste, and up in sac you can get a damn 10mbit line!

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Nov 23, 2004, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by Link:
This is a stupid argument, obviously it's not going to be easy for a country as large as the US to catch up with pint sized (high density) places like japan and various parts of Europe, despite that it happens.

I hope you know that Canada is larger and has even lower density then the US.

CD Hanks · Nov 23, 2004, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by phoenixboy70:
still an integral part of the interweb as we know it today.

Yet completely irrelevant to the flamewar at hand.

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
I hope you know that Canada is larger and has even lower density then the US.

Laying fiber or setting up a sattelite relay across what is basically uninhabited territory is a lot easier than having to wire up a country's worth of major metropolitan areas.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Nov 23, 2004, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
Yet completely irrelevant to the flamewar at hand.
Laying fiber or setting up a sattelite relay across what is basically uninhabited territory is a lot easier than having to wire up a country's worth of major metropolitan areas.

It is not through the use of satellites. Now explain how they set up cell phone access through towers for 94% of the country.

CD Hanks · Nov 23, 2004, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
It is not through the use of satellites. Now explain how they set up cell phone access through towers for 94% of the country.

I really don't know what you're trying to say. I think you answered your own question, but I can't make heads or tails out of this.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Nov 23, 2004, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
I really don't know what you're trying to say. I think you answered your own question, but I can't make heads or tails out of this.

You are saying the only way Canada accomplished this is by using satellites because it is easier.

I am telling you it is not through satellites and as you know DSL lines have a 4-6km limit before they need to hit a switching station. Yet they did did it 5 years ago.

Also Canada managed to set up Cell Towers to cover 94% of the country.

What you are saying is that it is easier for us and if they US did it then it would be impressive, if anyone else did it they are cheating and have it easier because they are smaller and less dense..

CD Hanks · Nov 23, 2004, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
You are saying the only way Canada accomplished this is by using satellites because it is easier.

I am telling you it is not through satellites and as you know DSL lines have a 4-6km limit before they need to hit a switching station. Yet they did did it 5 years ago.

Also Canada managed to set up Cell Towers to cover 94% of the country.

What you are saying is that it is easier for us and if they US did it then it would be impressive, if anyone else did it they are cheating and have it easier because they are smaller and less dense..

I did say "laying fiber or satellite relays", so I was wrong with one of the statements, the other must still be true due to logic and the fact you haven't jumped on it. If I'm wrong about the relay theory, so be it, I won't drag on about it.

I already know (as you stated) that DSL lines are limited to range of about 20000ft before the signal deteriorates. However, do you really think they are laying down "DSL lines" cross country? Hell no they aren't, it is way past unfeasible. But, as I said above, they are more than likely laying down fiber optic (that is, using LIGHT) to make up for the long distances.

Cheating? What the hell are you talking about? I haven't at all put down Canada for planning and assembling what is fairly well known as one hell of a network. For the United States to do it is a very different story. Why? BECAUSE OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY'S STRUCTURE IS OLD AS DIRT! So in fact, that is exactly what I'm saying. I'm really confused as to where the arguing point comes from. But I really think you made this thread only to pick a fight.

Link · Nov 23, 2004, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
I hope you know that Canada is larger and has even lower density then the US.

Canada also doesn't have a ******** named George Bush in charge.

Shaddim · Nov 23, 2004, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by Link:
Canada also doesn't have a ******** named George Bush in charge.

Grow up.

Now, go play your Nintendo like a good kid.

TheBadgerHunter · Nov 23, 2004, 06:16 PM

Wow, what happened here? Major derailment, rerailment, and subsequent derailment.

PacHead I never said canadians were a race, or that you were racist towards them. More reading, less knee-jerking.

Canada has more larger, faster, and arguably cheaper high-speed internet access. GET OVER IT. Just because you all have to defend the US at every chance doesn't deny the facts. You don't see us whining because our army would be decimated if you guys so much as looked at us.

The way this thread has gone you'd think we stole your favorite pacifier.

residentEvil · Nov 23, 2004, 06:18 PM

actually, Canada is covering the area with line of site microwave for most of the data/voice traffic in rural areas. very effective and cheaper than most solutions. DSL is simply the 'last connection' from the local CO to your home. from CO to CO, it is fiber and microwave.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Nov 23, 2004, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by CD Hanks:

I already know (as you stated) that DSL lines are limited to range of about 20000ft before the signal deteriorates. However, do you really think they are laying down "DSL lines" cross country? Hell no they aren't, it is way past unfeasible. But, as I said above, they are more than likely laying down fiber optic (that is, using LIGHT) to make up for the long distances.

Ya so, laying fiber optic is even more expensive then using regular phone lines.

Since most of the US has a phone line or cable TV it should be a snap to get everyone connected.

PacHead · Nov 23, 2004, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Just because you all have to defend the US at every chance doesn't deny the facts.

It has more to do with certain people attacking the US every chance they get, and manipulating stuff.

The canadian starwars geek was looking for his usual flame thread, which is obvious by his manipulating the title of his source:

How it went from "High-Speed internet access in the US doubles" to "US behind in broadband" is beyond me.

Next time I find some article about Canada stating for example: "Canadian economic growth strong in fourth quarter", I will be sure to start a thread stating "Canada still lags behind with their miserable socialist economy and unemploymment compared to other civilized countries of the world" or something similiar.

This thread is nothing but a "hey guys, my penis is bigger than your penis thread. "

brapper · Nov 23, 2004, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
This thread is nothing but a "hey guys, my penis is bigger than your penis thread. "

I once read that on average Canadian men had bigger penises then american men.
so there.

TheBadgerHunter · Nov 23, 2004, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:

This thread is nothing but a "hey guys, my penis is bigger than your penis thread. "

All you've been saying is "Hey guys, I don't like your penises. I Hate your penises. You have erectile dysfunction!"

macaddict0001 · Nov 23, 2004, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by brapper:
I once read that on average Canadian men had bigger penises then american men.
so there.

except that thats actually true.

placebo1969 · Nov 23, 2004, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
It is not through the use of satellites. Now explain how they set up cell phone access through towers for 94% of the country.

Is that 94% of the population? Or 94% of the area? I highly doubt that it's the latter. Doesn't 80+% of the Canadian population live within 200KM of the US?

Rolling Bones · Nov 23, 2004, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by MacNStein:
I live in the middle of "the smokeys" and get 5Mb for $65 /mo. Yeah, we're really backwards around here too.

Holy sh!t!!!

They allow gouging people like that where you live?

Rolling Bones · 09:53 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
fanboy.

Old, stale...better check your fridge.

>edit>I hate spelling.

Brass · Nov 23, 2004, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
The way this thread has gone you'd think we stole your favorite pacifier.

Can't wait for somebody to take offense at this, and have a debate over the meanings or histories of the words "pacifier" and "favourite".

These threads are great!

Zimphire · Nov 23, 2004, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by Rolling Bones:
Old, stale...better check your fridge.

Fanboying has never been fresh. It always leaves a stale taste in your mouth.

Kilbey · Nov 23, 2004, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
Then what would you call hate towards another country? I vote for Kilbey.

I don't hate anyone. Not even Ca$h when he put up photoshopped picture of my daughter.

Sorry to dissappoint you.

I am just pointing out your jealousy of the US and Christianity. Your obsession proves it. Oh, that and nintendo. What are you? 12?

Zimphire · Nov 23, 2004, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by Kilbey:
I am just pointing out your jealousy of the US and Christianity. Your obsession proves it. Oh, that and nintendo. What are you? 12?

And then when you have a American Christian on the board, that really gets him hot.

Shaddim · Nov 23, 2004, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by Rolling Bones:
Holy sh!t!!!

They allow gouging people like that where you live?

That's 5Mb up and down. That's hardly being "gouged". Read the post I made after that one, so that you might be educated.

BasketofPuppies · Nov 23, 2004, 11:10 PM

Someone want to explain to me why the admins haven't caught onto Star Wars Guy's subtle, anti-American; anti-conservative; and anti-religion trolling yet?

And for that matter, why haven't more of his handles been banned? Most of his insults are personal and aren't subtle, after all.

You'd think the time he signed tinrib up for a gay porn mailing list would have been enough to get his IP banned.

villalobos · Nov 23, 2004, 11:17 PM

yeah and my bro in the 'Old Europe' gets 6mb/1mb for $40..... try to get that ANYWHERE in the Us for that price.....
I used to make fun of him... now I shut up.

granted he used a computer made in the US (i.e. a PowerMac) to access the internet.

fireside · Nov 23, 2004, 11:35 PM

this thread is so funny yet so disappointing at the same time. some times, when i feel really bad, i read MacNN for SWG's posts about how much canada or whatever is better than the US or how gay people should rule the earth or whatever, and PacHead's posts about how much the US is awesome or how much he hates michael moore but can't stop talking about him or whatever he's trying to say. it always seems to make me feel good for some reason.