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TonTaub
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Aug 30, 2004, 06:37 PM
 
Hi,

I'm a bit confused by the circumstance that "all of a sudden" my PowerBook can't be booted from the backups on an external FW disk.

I'm running 10.3.4 and did the clone with Carbon Copy Cloner v2.3.
I tried several configs of CCC but no one works.

I got two different 2.5" disks (60GB, 80GB) I tried both, both refuse to boot, after a freshly done backup.

Since it worked with exactly this configuration recently, I'm wondering what's going on.
The only thing that changed is the CCC version of psync which I installed a week ago in order to get psync running with 10.3.4.
Buf if I do a full backup, psync doesn't come into play anyway.

Any hints to get this working again?
I'm a bit stuck.

Thanks a lot, Michael.

PS: I can boot from an old cloned partition on one of the disks
( Last edited by TonTaub; Sep 4, 2004 at 04:51 AM. )
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Aug 30, 2004, 07:14 PM
 
Did you check " make bootable"?
     
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Aug 31, 2004, 03:16 AM
 
Hi,

Originally posted by romeosc:
Did you check " make bootable"?
Yes I did.
What I don't get is that it worked before. I was testing MacOS Updates this way (cloning and testing the update with the clone booted).

I suspected the 80GB disk (the same type as the internal HDD), it's in a similar enclosure as the other one (60GB).

Before posting yesterday I tried to do a clone on the 60GB. I'm absolutely positive it worked there - and now it doesn't boot either. But from an old partition on this very disk (a small, old clone) I still can boot.

The log of CCC doesn't look odd.

I'm afraid I'm stuck. Any clues?

Thanks a lot, :-) Michael.
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Sep 1, 2004, 07:52 AM
 
Are there possibly any issues with psync?
That's the only thing I've changed.
If that can be a reason I can't tell - I didn't check the bootability often enough.

Thanks, Michael.
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Sep 1, 2004, 10:06 PM
 
Be sure that your ext. drive's permissions are set to "Ignore permissions on this volume" before you clone (from the Get Info panel)

I recently cloned my 12" PBs drive to a LaCie d2 120 and it has worked flawlessly.

Good luck with this!
     
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Sep 1, 2004, 10:14 PM
 
Try running it without psync. I've had trouble getting CCC to even write clones with it on. The back-up scripts I wrote wouldn't function (nothing was getting backed up) until I re-did them without psync on.

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Sep 2, 2004, 08:21 AM
 
Originally posted by TimMaroney:
Be sure that your ext. drive's permissions are set to "Ignore permissions on this volume" before you clone (from the Get Info panel)

I recently cloned my 12" PBs drive to a LaCie d2 120 and it has worked flawlessly.

Good luck with this!
Do you mean the destination drive?
In one of my recent attempts I cleared the backup disk with Disk Utility before running the backup.

I know I got it working earlier I'll try once again ...

Thanks, Michael.
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Sep 2, 2004, 08:36 AM
 
Originally posted by chris v:
Aha.

http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html#psync
This is were I got the updated version of psync from.
The original version just doesn't even run.

I did try the backup without psync.

I'll try again. I'll reinstall CCC with the original psync, maybe the update cocked up the original installation.

When I follow the logfile I don't see psync involved anywhere.

Thanks, Michael.
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Sep 3, 2004, 02:22 PM
 
Hi All again,

I'm runnig out of ideas!

I repaired permissions, set ignore permission on the target, erased the target partition with disk utility, deleted psync, reinstalled CCC ... no clue.

ANY other idea?
I'm absolutely positive that worked before and this particular target disk has a second partition with a small 10.2.8 which still boots flawlessly. So it can't be the disk.

Thanks a lot, Michael.
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Sep 6, 2004, 07:41 AM
 
I'm getting confused:

I "sacrificed" an external data disk (FW400) and repartitioned it (two small and one big partition).
I installed 10.3.4 on it from scratch - this does boot!
I cloned it with CCC to the second small partition - the clone does boot!
I cloned the internal system disk to a third partition on this external disk this does not boot! (Like the clone on the true backup disk doesn't)

Meanwhile I'm pretty sure that the problem relies on the source disk since a freshly installed system does boot from it's clone.
I did repair permissions - no improvement.

ANY other ideas?

Thanks a lot, Michael.
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Sep 6, 2004, 09:35 AM
 
In the past, I've used Disk Utility's "Restore" feature sans any problems. It was relatively quick too seeing it had to copy 37 GB. I have found CCC flaky in the past...it would get halfway and then hang, or "unexpectedly quit," or do what's happened to you, not yield a viable bootable volume.
     
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Sep 6, 2004, 10:27 AM
 
Hi, thanks for replying!

Originally posted by David Hagan:
In the past, I've used Disk Utility's "Restore" feature sans any problems.
How do you use this "Restore" feature? Just entering Source and Destination partition?
I tried this too but then I couldn't even boot in verbose or single user mode.

The clone CCC did looks ok, it "just" doesn't boot.

Michael.
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