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NormPhillips · May 12, 2003, 01:55 PM

So, after over two years since Mac OS X 10.0 was introduced, have you completely moved over or not yet even start?

NormPhillips · May 12, 2003, 02:11 PM

Thanks to DiskWarrior 3 finally coming out, I no longer need to boot into Mac OS 9. But there are minor little shareware and freeware games that are nice to play, so that's why I keep Classic.

codywalton · May 12, 2003, 02:24 PM

i have 9 on a seperate partition... i very rarely boot into 9 and use it only slightly more as classic mode.

X is great and all.... but the biggest thing I miss about 9 is GUI customability. K2 was the best, and X themes just can't match them. Some folks in the GUI forum hav heard me rant on this before... the small selection and lack of variety in X themes makes me take a envious look at XP with windowblinds4...

iRebound · May 12, 2003, 02:33 PM

I'm classic free on my main system, TiBook 550. But I still run OS 9 on my B&W G3/350

Adam Betts · May 12, 2003, 02:35 PM

You need to add "I'm forced to use slow and ugly MacOS X" option for Cipher69

Mastrap · May 12, 2003, 02:40 PM

X and X only. Stability, stability, stability. Love it.

voodoo · May 12, 2003, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Adam Betts:
You need to add "I'm forced to use slow and ugly MacOS X" option for Cipher69

69?

-Q- · May 12, 2003, 03:19 PM

Just deleted classic this weekend with the release of Diskwarrior...

I'm freeeee!!!

pat++ · May 12, 2003, 03:32 PM

Interesting poll. Looks good

Adam Betts · May 12, 2003, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by voodoo:
69?

I can't remember his number at the moment so I used the first number that came to my mind.

benb · May 12, 2003, 03:43 PM

These numbers are inherently fallible. This poll is posted in the OS X forum, and presumably people who use only 9, or mostly 9 would have no reason to come here. That being said, I no longer use 9. I used to for games, but i built a PC. Now its all OS X for me.

NormPhillips · May 12, 2003, 04:48 PM

I would post it in a more general form, but then the poll would just be moved here.

bgmccollum · May 13, 2003, 09:09 PM

count me in the tiny percentile, but X just doesnt do it for me. doesnt fit in my workflow. clunky, slow, unintuitive.

OpenStep · May 13, 2003, 09:42 PM

Is it 12:00 yet?

tikki · May 13, 2003, 10:50 PM

I only use MacOS 9 when X pisses me off. That's a rarity.

OldManMac · May 13, 2003, 10:54 PM

Now that I have Snood for X, my life is complete!

Sage · May 14, 2003, 12:18 AM

I just dumped Classic last week, so I'm all OS X, 24/7.

Wonder what Apple (erm, Steve) has in mind for us 12 years from now?

dettociao · May 14, 2003, 08:25 PM

my machine won't even boot classic. boo-ya

Cipher13 · May 14, 2003, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by Adam Betts:
You need to add "I'm forced to use slow and ugly MacOS X" option for Cipher69

You need to work on your comedic skills.

Sorry, but they suck.

Orion27 · May 14, 2003, 10:11 PM

Except for one legacy design program not ported to X yet, I'm all X all the time.

Shaddim · May 14, 2003, 10:47 PM

Hell, I even dumped Quark (and moved to InDesign) just to avoid using Classic anymore. God Quark sucked running in Classic mode.

No more OS 9 for me. Don't look back baby!

Why do you guys think that OSX is slow? It really moves on my little 12" PB. However, I did make some mods and tweaked it to get it this fast, but it wasn't THAT hard. Honestly, it wasn't even that bad before... I just felt that it could be better.

It runs about the same on my PB as WinXP ran on my 2GHz P4 (before I gave it to my dad). Apps don't load quite as fast, but I attribute the vast majority of that to the slower HD in my `book.

Cadaver · May 14, 2003, 11:24 PM

MacOS 9? What's that?

I've been Classic-free for so long now that I really can't remember when the last time I even ran a Classic application, let alone boot OS 9. The last time I ran Classic, that I can remember, was before Office X had been released and I had to run Office 2001 (and I even managed to get beta versions to run months before it had been released - corporate enterprise agreement).

Oh, maybe a couple of times until Photoshop 7 was released, but had I bought Corel 10 to use in OS X in the meantime, which served me just fine.

Um, wait. I think I actually booted into OS 9 on my wife's iBook 600 to run Office 2001 to run a large PowerPoint file once while I was out of town. IIRC, there was a bug in early Office X that would prevent this really big file from running correctly, though it ran on Office 2000 for Windows and Office 2001 for MacOS 9. This was pre-SP1 Office X, and once patched, the bug was fixed.

Even on my blue & white G3/450, I was so tired of OS 9's crashiness that I was ready to do anything to move to OS X, no matter how much software I had to buy/replace. I was on the verge of migrating EVERYTHING to Windows 2000 at the time - even bought a new, fully loaded, top of the line Dell 1GHz P-III machine and used it exclusively for a couple of months. OS X (10.1, specifically) was the only thing that stopped me.

FYI - I recently gave away that 1GHz P-III

bgmccollum · May 15, 2003, 10:32 PM

X in relation to 9 is slow. it eats an insane ammount of resources. everyone knows this. dont act as if it isnt so. the concept of X is great, but it's execution has been awful.

waiting for the day that i can actually move over to X...

icruise · May 16, 2003, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by bgmccollum:
X in relation to 9 is slow. it eats an insane ammount of resources. everyone knows this. dont act as if it isnt so. the concept of X is great, but it's execution has been awful.

waiting for the day that i can actually move over to X...

If you are running legacy hardware (anything more than a couple of years old) then yes. But on new Macs OS X is pretty darn fast.

bgmccollum · May 16, 2003, 11:15 AM

not as fast as 9 still. just because you have a newer machine doesnt mean it is actually faster. you just have a new processor doing more brute force work. too bad those new machines cant boot into 9. id love to see some benchmarks showing how 9 just creams X. and still the RAM usage is out the roof. so sad.

typoon · May 16, 2003, 11:33 AM

been using OS X fulltime now since 10.1 I rarely go into 9 if at all. On my iBook I have it completely removed.

This sounds like an AA meeting. Hi I'm so and so and I've been OS 9 free for so many months now. LOL

greenG4 · May 16, 2003, 04:19 PM

Once I buy Digital Performer 4, I'll be home free.

scadboy · May 16, 2003, 04:48 PM

I've been X only since last spring. I bought the Adobe Design Collection when they had all six apps (Pshop and Imageready, Illustrator, GoLive, Indesign, Livemotion) for $399 (education). I haven't looked back, and haven't lost a single hour of labor to a system crash or software problems yet. I've been sold since I realized I was only restarting my machine between system upgrades.

can't wait for panther!

bgmccollum · May 16, 2003, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by scadboy:
I've been X only since last spring. I bought the Adobe Design Collection when they had all six apps (Pshop and Imageready, Illustrator, GoLive, Indesign, Livemotion) for $399 (education). I haven't looked back, and haven't lost a single hour of labor to a system crash or software problems yet. I've been sold since I realized I was only restarting my machine between system upgrades.

can't wait for panther!

scad huh? me too...the school sucks...

starfleetX · May 17, 2003, 03:56 AM

Originally posted by bgmccollum:
not as fast as 9 still. just because you have a newer machine doesnt mean it is actually faster. you just have a new processor doing more brute force work. too bad those new machines cant boot into 9. id love to see some benchmarks showing how 9 just creams X. and still the RAM usage is out the roof. so sad.

I'd like to see some benchmarks showing how System 6 creams Mac OS 9.

So sad.

Get it? New OSs need more power because, yes, they do more. It's always been the case. I suspect it will be the case for years to come.

RevEvs · May 17, 2003, 05:24 AM

I've been classic free since DP4 messed it up, and I'm too lazy to fix it, so i just lived with it

revs