[brassplayersrock²]

Originally Posted by steve666 

Obnoxious much?

Not able to read policies much?

[steve666]

Originally Posted by brassplayersrock² 

Not able to read policies much?

And if you were on that site you would assume the boldly advertised return policy applies in what situation?

[Spheric Harlot]

Same as any other store - new condition.

[steve666]

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot 

Same as any other store - new condition.

Does that mean you can't put the shoes on and walk in them? What reason would there be to return them if they weren't comfortable?

[Spheric Harlot]

Round and round she goes, and where she stops, she's gonna blow…

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot 

Round and round she goes, and where she stops, she's gonna blow…

I'll bet there's a video of that somewhere on the Intarwebs.

[brassplayersrock²]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

I'll bet there's a video of that somewhere on the Intarwebs.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

I'll bet there's a video of that somewhere on the Intarwebs.

Glad you caught the phrasing.

In fact, the video inspired my post.

[steve666]

Well, I got a refund from Shoebuy. The complaint to the BBB did the trick. I don't even have to send my sneakers back, they say I can donate them to charity, which I will do.
So, instead of just doing the right thing in the first place it ends up costing them the cost of the sneakers plus the return shipping to me.
Knuckleheads

[Spheric Harlot]

So they looked used enough to be unsaleable, eh?

I'd *really* like to see those photos.

Also, you effectively just bummed a pair of shoes off them - don't be surprised if this dunks your credit rating. I know over here mail-order companies maintain blacklists which are accessed by banks before they approve loans or credit. There's the "official" history, which you can look into, and then there's a couple of behind-the-scenes lists, which include commonness of defaulting by zip codes, and lists with negative marks like these.

[steve666]

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot 

So they looked used enough to be unsaleable, eh?

I'd *really* like to see those photos.

Also, you effectively just bummed a pair of shoes off them - don't be surprised if this dunks your credit rating. I know over here mail-order companies maintain blacklists which are accessed by banks before they approve loans or credit. There's the "official" history, which you can look into, and then there's a couple of behind-the-scenes lists, which include commonness of defaulting by zip codes, and lists with negative marks like these.

No, They realized they were jerks and didn't want to pay to have them shipped back to them after wasting money shipping them back to me in the first place.
The BBB saw the photos. They was some carpet fuzz on the sole, obviously no wear.
This can't affect my credit rating, where are you getting this from? They made the offer to me through the BBB and I accepted the offer. That can't be held against me even if it were possible to report something like that to a credit agency, which I highly doubt.
Not exactly a consumer advocate are ya?

[The Final Dakar]

It may be two pages, but this thread is a near-classic in my eyes.

[Laminar]

Considering the OP's name, is it odd that the rest of MacNN played Devil's advocate?

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot 

Also, you effectively just bummed a pair of shoes off them - don't be surprised if this dunks your credit rating. I know over here mail-order companies maintain blacklists which are accessed by banks before they approve loans or credit. There's the "official" history, which you can look into, and then there's a couple of behind-the-scenes lists, which include commonness of defaulting by zip codes, and lists with negative marks like these.

No way in the US, they can't jack your credit for a credit card purchase.

Heck, they can't even access your credit w/o you supplying crucial information like SSN.

Official credit ratings are maintained by the big 3 (Experian, Transunion, Equifax), and for official credit check, any company needs your SSN.

And until you apply for credit or loan, or get sloppy with existing credit or loans, they can't just dink you for anything.

-t

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally Posted by steve666 

No, They realized they were jerks and didn't want to pay to have them shipped back to them after wasting money shipping them back to me in the first place.
The BBB saw the photos. They was some carpet fuzz on the sole, obviously no wear.
This can't affect my credit rating, where are you getting this from? They made the offer to me through the BBB and I accepted the offer. That can't be held against me even if it were possible to report something like that to a credit agency, which I highly doubt.
Not exactly a consumer advocate are ya?

Ya think?

Quite the contrary, actually.

I'd be extremely surprised if such lists did not exist in the U.S. - especially Germany is generally pretty keen on privacy rights, and yet there's some sort of legal gray area that makes these lists possible.

German and U.S. credit ratings probably work in completely different ways; I have no idea.
[Edit: Thanks, Schildkröte]

Having worked in sales and service for a number of years, though, I no longer automatically give customers the benefit of the doubt. Most do not have a clear idea of what their rights are, and some are hell-bent on getting their way fully knowing that they're ripping somebody off but with a vague feeling that the law might be argued into their favor.

Apologies if I seemed (was) overly personal.

The BBB made a call, and they're in a position to make that call.

[steve666]

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot 

Ya think?

Quite the contrary, actually.

I'd be extremely surprised if such lists did not exist in the U.S. - especially Germany is generally pretty keen on privacy rights, and yet there's some sort of legal gray area that makes these lists possible.

German and U.S. credit ratings probably work in completely different ways; I have no idea.
[Edit: Thanks, Schildkröte]

Having worked in sales and service for a number of years, though, I no longer automatically give customers the benefit of the doubt. Most do not have a clear idea of what their rights are, and some are hell-bent on getting their way fully knowing that they're ripping somebody off but with a vague feeling that the law might be argued into their favor.

Apologies if I seemed (was) overly personal.

The BBB made a call, and they're in a position to make that call.

No problem. They have a 60 day return policy and I returned them in 48 hours. No way was I trying to rip them off. I worked in retail also and I had people try to return things that were over a year old. And got away with it.
I could sell these as new on ebay but I'm going to give it to charity.

[brassplayersrock²]

So, shoebuy took the “get rid of the pest easily” route.

[steve666]

Originally Posted by brassplayersrock² 

“Dear BBB,
I tried on my shoes, and then tried sending them back for a refund because I didn’t like them; however they refused their full refund policy (which I didn’t read before buying the shoes; and which states "no returns/refunds on worn shoes”)

Please shut down this site due to them no honoring their return policy.

Thank you,
Dirty shoe guy”


Let us know how this turns out…. mmmmmmmmkkkkkkaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy

Originally Posted by brassplayersrock² 

So, shoebuy took the “get rid of the pest easily” route.

Nope, I was right and they were wrong.
And so were you. mmmmmmmmmmmKKKKKKKKKKKaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[brassplayersrock²]

In your eyes.

[besson3c]

What is it about the internet that brings out the Judge Judy in everybody?

[Eriamjh]

All this shoe-talk has me thinking about Married-With children.

"Watch out. She has a shoe!"

[ort888]

In other news, we now have step-by-step instructions on how to get a free pair of shoes.

[The Final Dakar]

Originally Posted by ort888 

In other news, we now have step-by-step instructions on how to get a free pair of shoes.

This includes posting a thread where you will be abused but avoid providing any proof to defend yourself.

[Captain Obvious]

If you'd posted the pics in the first place this whole thing would have been easier on th OP. Instead by ignoring the repeated request and putting it off so long I think most members just sided with the store.

Personally this thread didn't so much turn me off of buying from the retailer as much as it made me think the poster was a whiney little girl

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar 

Originally Posted by ghporter 

I can't buy shoes without actually trying them on. My feets are too unique.

I was kinda busy on the 17th, so I missed your picture. No, my feets ain't that unique. Left 1/2 size larger than right with a different profile... That's more than enough to make me need to try them on before I buy a pair of shoes.

[The Final Dakar]

ghporter: Joke Assassin

[ghporter]

No, just practical. My feet aren't quite that hairy, but they're pretty odd looking. The "joke" on me is that I spent over 2 decades wearing combat boots-supposedly really well designed ones too-and wound up with bunions anyway. Ha ha.

[andi*pandi]

Cue the "your moderator wears combat boots" jokes.

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by andi*pandi 

Cue the "your moderator wears combat boots" jokes.

Ba-DUMP! Kish....