[OzarkMtn]

havannas,

How did you get the striped grey pattern in your system preference window?

[Synotic]

Originally posted by limbotron:
Hey synnotic, have you been stealing from the mexican? Or did you get an early build of his stuff. Your screenshot is obviously copying or using early versions of his platinum theme. I just emailed him for an article I am writing and he sent me some screenshots of his new stuff. You are obviously several generations behind (the newer versions have much nicer scroll bars and have proper small window widgets). If you do have a copy of his theme, how did you convince him to give it to you? I had to promise not to show my screenshots until next month.

Actually, yes several of the UI elements were from themexican (with his permission of course) I had actually lost the theme. It got accidentally deleted. I am starting up a new Platinum theme which in meant to be a perfect representation of Platinum rather than replacing UI elements with custom ones. themexican's theme and my theme will be very different. themexican's theme will be an interpretation of Platinum, a very nice interpretation I might add. I'll be adding my new more realistic version soon. In fact I am booting into into OS X right now to try out the stuff I have so far.

[jem]

Synotic:

Do you have your theme bundle up on the web somewhere? I would love to find out how you have create those themes!

What app would you use to modify the Extras.rsrc file, and where is it located?

Thanks

[HeatMiser]

Originally posted by havannas:
Blamo!

I've always loved that desktop pic, havannas. Quite possibly one of the funniest Simpsons eps ever.




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The suspense is terrible...I hope it'll last.

[Todd Madson]

I love the faux brushed aluminum menus. I wouldn't have them on my own system personally, but it's a cool look.

As far as the Adrian Mann site goes for the aurora picture, check: http://www.aemann.da.ru/ and click on the link for desktops.

[Synotic]

Originally posted by jem:
Synotic:

Do you have your theme bundle up on the web somewhere? I would love to find out how you have create those themes!

What app would you use to modify the Extras.rsrc file, and where is it located?

Thanks

Here is the link to the theme bundles. Remember, just the color variations. The other themes can be obtained through some persuausion or if you wish to help with some elements. I would prefer for now if the link wasn't spread around to much, as there are a few bugs. In fact, it would be better if you held off until maybe later this afternoon. (9:12 A.M. where I am.) I will be releasing a beta 2 of the color variations. It will adress many bugs. If anyone has any suggestions, I would gladly see what I can do. Thanks Todd for the compliment.

[email protected]

Edit: I forgot to say what tool I am using. I am using an app called "Theminator", currently it is banned by Apple and very hard to find anywhere and I can't e-mail it to you at this time. I know there are lots of people who have obtained this tool, I'm sure you could ask and someone could get you a link or send you it.


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[starman]

Synotic,
I happen to like Akio's desktops, thank you very much. I'm not fond of yours. It's easy to knock on someone else, isn't it?

Mike

[limbotron]

>Actually, yes several of the UI elements were from themexican

LOL. Don't you mean "ALL of the UI elements"... I compared his to yours side by side. Looks like you took his apple, his menubar, his version of the window title, the close box, the scroll bars, and so on...

Mexican is a nice guy and has provided many of us here with invaluable help, you shouldn't be claiming his stuff as your own. Give credit where credit is due man. It's the Mac way.

[Synotic]

Originally posted by starman:
Synotic,
I happen to like Akio's desktops, thank you very much. I'm not fond of yours. It's easy to knock on someone else, isn't it?

Mike

LOL. In fact I am using Akios theme right now. When I said that I wasn't referring to Akios theme in general. I was referring to the fact that they were using a theme at all. That's why I also referred to the Emerald theme. I actually have e-mailed Akio several times and have gotten advice from him.

Originally posted by limbotron:
>Actually, yes several of the UI elements were from themexican

LOL. Don't you mean "ALL of the UI elements"... I compared his to yours side by side. Looks like you took his apple, his menubar, his version of the window title, the close box, the scroll bars, and so on...

Mexican is a nice guy and has provided many of us here with invaluable help, you shouldn't be claiming his stuff as your own. Give credit where credit is due man. It's the Mac way.

Actually the menu bar the close widgets and stuff are taken *directly* from OS 9 itself. Only some of themexicans newly created resources were used. That shot only shows some elements of Platinum. Anyways I am no longer using *any* resource from themexican in my new theme as I said. Anyways I give themexican credit for several of my elements in the old theme that I lost.

[MacGorilla]

Here is another of mine. Thats the Gimp 1.2.1 running on WindowMaker via XTools. If you want all these, instructions are also on that page

[jagga]

Originally posted by MacGorilla:
Here is another of mine. Thats the Gimp 1.2.1 running on WindowMaker via XTools. If you want all these, instructions are also on that page

wheres the link dude?

jagga

[Teronzhul]

You did sound kinda harsh up there Synotic. Emerald takes some tinkering to get working right anyway, i had to start over and use the scripts in theminator, and then fix the ppats (which i notice your qt brushed metal theme seems to have similiar issues with, ie black stripes everywhere ick!). Still missing some buttons here and there, ah well. Maybe i'll make my own theme soon. Btw, is anybody using a copy of theminator later than .5.1d? that is the newest i could get my hands on. thnx

[MacmanX]

My picture is here http://homepage.mac.com/derricksnels...res/index.html . The picture is of the Puente Nuevo in Rhonda, Espa�a.

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[jamesa]

Originally posted by Synotic:
Cool shots so far. Here are some themes I made myself. They are only alpha so don't waste your time saying anything is screwed. I also have several color variations such as emerald, but those are boring. You can get them all in my theme bundle if you like though. E-mail me at: [email protected]

Brushed Metal:

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Brushed Metal is SWEET

I'm tempted to email you and get that, I love it

[jamesa]

Originally posted by BigMac2:
This is my little contribution ;-)

I really love the DesktopConsole program for monitoring any Console warning and any FTP intruder
you can get an high resolution picture here!

[This message has been edited by BigMac2 (edited 04-08-2001).]

Where can you get the desktop console app from? Thanks!

[foobars]

Originally posted by jamesa:
Where can you get the desktop console app from? Thanks!

http://www.cs.newcastle.edu.au/~mdra...opconsole.html

[Synotic]

Originally posted by Teronzhul:
You did sound kinda harsh up there Synotic. Emerald takes some tinkering to get working right anyway, i had to start over and use the scripts in theminator, and then fix the ppats (which i notice your qt brushed metal theme seems to have similiar issues with, ie black stripes everywhere ick!). Still missing some buttons here and there, ah well. Maybe i'll make my own theme soon. Btw, is anybody using a copy of theminator later than .5.1d? that is the newest i could get my hands on. thnx

I friendlied my old post up I know how to make the emerald thing as I made several variations in my theme bundle. None of them experience the black line problem. I simply forgot to fix the problem with brushed metal. I have version .5.2d and can send it to you. What's your e-mail? I am having trouble modifying PPAT that are 128 pixels in size. Any ideas? ResEdit doesn't work. Graphic Converter lets me view them but I can't edit them. I know resourcer allows modifying of this. Anyone know where to get it?

[email protected]

[Teronzhul]

Resourcerer is commercial i think. There is an update for it at versiontracker.com but no demo or anything. Resurrection is supposed to handle bigger ppats i think but it doesn't do me much good however, becuase it kinda freezes instantly when I try to do much of anything with it. I have yet to actually edit a resource and save before it crashed my computer. I am pretty new to theming etc, never really got into it with os9, but i have been having fun. If you wanna send me theminator and/or the qt theme, i'd be grateful, i'll do whatever i can to help out. When i figure out a good way to edit those larger patterns, i'll tell you. Its 3 am right now though, and i still have a page or 2 left on my research paper thats due at 9 am, and my printer seems to be broken. How am i gonna get outta this? oh my email is either [email protected] or [email protected] you choose, thnx

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[Synotic]

Originally posted by Teronzhul:
Resourcerer is commercial i think. There is an update for it at versiontracker.com but no demo or anything. Resurrection is supposed to handle bigger ppats i think but it doesn't do me much good however, becuase it kinda freezes instantly when I try to do much of anything with it. I have yet to actually edit a resource and save before it crashed my computer. I am pretty new to theming etc, never really got into it with os9, but i have been having fun. If you wanna send me theminator and/or the qt theme, i'd be grateful, i'll do whatever i can to help out. When i figure out a good way to edit those larger patterns, i'll tell you. Its 3 am right now though, and i still have a page or 2 left on my research paper thats due at 9 am, and my printer seems to be broken. How am i gonna get outta this? oh my email is either [email protected] or [email protected] you choose, thnx

[This message has been edited by Teronzhul (edited 04-11-2001).]

I found the actual site. I put in MacNN Lounge. The reason I couldn't find it is because I was looking for:
Resourcer
When I should have been looking at:
Resourcerer

Oh well I am now able to edit PPATs that are 128x128. The way my brushed metal works.... everything needs to connect.128 is the biggest choice. I was able to actually resize all of the other PPATs to 128 and paste.... I just have one problem with one PPAT that only wants to be like 2 pixels tall and repeat itself. It looks horrible. You can't make a good texture out of something that repeats itself a hundred times and is only 2 pixels high. The weird thing actually is that this problem has ONLY occured in the System Preferences. I don't think any other program or utility needs the 2 pixel PPAT. Anyways I'll keep you posted on my progress. If I can get one particular bug fixed I may send you the theme.

[parallax]

Where are the menu stripes located? Extras.rsrc?

menu stripes are a pxm in the extras.rsrc.

most of the rest of the stripes are ppats

I was just dealing with this problem when I found this thread:
http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/Foru.../003382-3.html

Which has some good suggestions on how to edit weird ppats.

[Teronzhul]

Hey, Syn, plz email me theminator. thnx [email protected]

[Teronzhul]

Oh, and it helps to know the real name of resourcerer too huh? lol!

Rather annoying posting those huge pictures on this site. I'd be much more annoyed if I was using dialup. Please people, stop putting the pictures directly on this site.


Anyway, nice desktops though. Oh, if anyone clicks on my desktop picture several posts earlier, I just posted it since I had already taken a screenshot of it earlier. Basically I opened all the apps I could rummage. Needless to say, it was a bit slow using the system, but it ran faithfully... although that chess game comp vs. comp never got a chance to begin.

[gotterdamm]

Here's mine:
This is my Enlightenment desktop running on OS X. It's running the E-Chaos theme as well as The Gimp and a translucent rxvt terminal.

This is my regular Quartz desktop with my customized finder backgrounds.

And just for the record: I agree that will should link instead of posting inline images.


edit:changed link servers



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[tz3gm]

gotterdam

something wrong...your links broken

[gotterdamm]

tz3gm:
They where uploaded fine but from some reason Geocities didn't like being linked to from the forums. Weird. Changed servers, they work now.

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[OzarkMtn]

Can someone or havannas tell me how I can get the striped grey pattern he uses in the system preference window? As well as setting it up to use it.

Here is his screenshot"

www.home.earthlink.net/~notepad/sparkle.jpg

Thanks!

[Teronzhul]

Ozark, I could be wrong, but i believe that is just one of the ppats in the extras.rsrc file (i don't remember which one). It may even be one that resedit will allow you to modify, but i'm not sure, Resedit can only handle about 1/2 of them. If not look towards Resourcerer or Resurrection.

http://homepage.mac.com/cseldomridge

[gotterdamm]

Chad-
Make sure to tell us when you get that Tetris game finished. Tetris under X sounds cool.

[Geobunny]

Tetris already exists for OS X. It's called MacBlox and has been around since about DP4 IIRC.

Get it here : http://hem.passagen.se/joakimar/index.html

BTW, beware about calling it Tetris, it could get you into trouble WRT copyright or trademark ownership.

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[parallax]

I wrote a Transparent Tetris thing a while ago, if it doesn't run (I haven't compiled it for release yet, got to go in a minute) just compile the sources with it.

Grab it while my LAN IP stays the same :-)
http://gilgalad.dyndns.org/PXTetris.tar.gz

[This message has been edited by parallax (edited 04-12-2001).]

The tetris is written in cocoa, and my brother did the textures in lightwave. I am hoping to finish it soon, but between school and work I don't have much time to work on it. Thanks for the interest.

[saltines17]

Here's my screenshot!
(http://www.geocities.com/patoenojado/Desktop.jpg)
Isn't my chicken nice?

[saltines17]

btw, how do I enable html code?? Dumb question, but thanks

[mindwaves]

Originally posted by saltines17:
btw, how do I enable html code?? Dumb question, but thanks

Well for UBB code, whih is used in these forums, you have to do something like this:

<img>url</img> replacing the '<' and the '>" with '[' and ']' respectively.

edit: The dock is a wee small dont you think.

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[iYouth]

www.trickx.com

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[email protected] www.trickx.com

My latest = "4-13-01hi"

It's at:
http://homepage.mac.com/themexican/PhotoAlbum.html

Shows, platinum theme, now (mainly) stripeless (the stripes are hard wired in some places).

[plaidpjs]

Originally posted by themexican:
My latest = "4-13-01hi"

It's at:
http://homepage.mac.com/themexican/PhotoAlbum.html

Shows, platinum theme, now (mainly) stripeless (the stripes are hard wired in some places).

For whatever reason, I get to your page and click on an image to see a larger version and nothing happens. I've tried opening the link in a new window and downloading it to disk... nothing!


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It is human nature to
favor chaos over order.
It is human nature to
destroy rather than to
create. Yet, it is within
all of us to be more
than human.

The Apple photoalbum pages uses javascript that futzes up if you try to open into a new window (or download the link).

If you simply click on the link normally you will automatically get a new window and the image will start to load.

Amazing work btw. When can I get mine?!

hey mexican what is that theme editing program you have down there in the corner? Doesn't look like theminator.

yes, I have been trying to find some way of making a theme for like a month. I can't find the necessary tools anywhere! I've gotten QuickConvert, Theminator, and something called Sprocket, and nothing seems to work as far as extras.rsrc is concerned! themexican, please help us out!!!

[Geobunny]

Mexican. Dude, that looks fantastic! When can I get it? I'm not a big fan of the orange Apple menu, but with that interface, I probably won't be looking at it too often!

Can you post a pic with a menu open please? If you don't include any alphas in your menus, do they open/close more quickly?

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Just face it - some days you're the pigeon, some days you're the statue!

[Synotic]

Originally posted by the rev:
yes, I have been trying to find some way of making a theme for like a month. I can't find the necessary tools anywhere! I've gotten QuickConvert, Theminator, and something called Sprocket, and nothing seems to work as far as extras.rsrc is concerned! themexican, please help us out!!!

I know for a fact they do work. What are the versions you have? How have you gotten them to work? Did you read the instructinos for Theminator? DId you drag the Extras file on QuickConvert before dragging it on Theminator or Sprocket? It should work.

yes, I have been trying to find some way of making a theme for like a month. I can't find the necessary tools anywhere! I've gotten QuickConvert, Theminator, and something called Sprocket, and nothing seems to work as far as extras.rsrc is concerned

Those are exactly the tools I am using (+ resedit, photoshop,snoop).

Quick and Dirty:

(Boot Os 9)

1. Run the extras.rsrc through quickconvert to make a resource fork.

2. Open the extras.rsrc in either Sprocket or theminator. Sprocket is much more stable.

3. Copy from sprocket or theminator, and paste into photoshop (or any other image editior).

4. Edit.

5. Paste back into theminator or sprocket.

6. Convert your extras.rsrc back to a datafork.

7. Put it back in place, reboot in X, and see if it works.

All this info is fairly well documented in the original customizing theme and in the second summarized one ( http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/Forum3/HTML/003382.html ).

Theminator is very buggy at this point (wasn't designed for 1.0 and is no longer being developed) and is dying a slow death, but it is still the only way to edit text colors.

Sprocket is very cool. It's not out yet, but it will be soon. The programmer is doing all sorts of great work and it is getting much better with each build. Don't email me me to ask me for it. The author will release it when he wants to.

Anyway once you get the hang of it OS X theming is not hard, just tedious.

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>I'm not a big fan of the orange Apple menu

It's red on my machine... but I also have blue, grey, black, green, and multicolored. It's trivial to change it around.

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>Can you post a pic with a menu open please?

He he... I always do something funky with the menus to tell my various versions apart (right now they are translucent blue), but maybe later tonight I'll stick the platinum non-alphaed menus back in and take another screenshot.

>If you don't include
> any alphas in your menus, do they open/close more quickly?

Removing the alphas doesn't speed things up (or if it does I can't tell the difference). I imagine it's because Quartz is calculating for an alpha anyway (either that or it happens so fast that it doesn't matter...might be a different story on a slower processor or on a G3).

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Final note. If you use theminator always copy all your resources out of the saved theminator file and paste them over the resources in the extras.rsrc. If you don't do this, your theme will be missing parts. Sprocket doesn't have this problem and is much smarter about saves in general.

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[Geobunny]

Originally posted by themexican:
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>Can you post a pic with a menu open please?

He he... I always do something funky with the menus to tell my various versions apart (right now they are translucent blue), but maybe later tonight I'll stick the platinum non-alphaed menus back in and take another screenshot.

>If you don't include
> any alphas in your menus, do they open/close more quickly?

Removing the alphas doesn't speed things up (or if it does I can't tell the difference). I imagine it's because Quartz is calculating for an alpha anyway (either that or it happens so fast that it doesn't matter...might be a different story on a slower processor or on a G3).

Well, I've got a beige G3/266, so if you feel like forwarding it to me, I'll let you know if it's any faster. Currently it feels a bit like trying to run through molasses.

BTW, go'n post your "funky" menu colours anyway. Translucent blue sound cool...and a very clever way to differentiate them. I presume that means it's really trivial to change the menu backgrounds then?

I take it the 4L13 update that was just released officially, won't stop themes from working?

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Just face it - some days you're the pigeon, some days you're the statue!

[Synotic]

Originally posted by Geobunny:
Well, I've got a beige G3/266, so if you feel like forwarding it to me, I'll let you know if it's any faster. Currently it feels a bit like trying to run through molasses.

BTW, go'n post your "funky" menu colours anyway. Translucent blue sound cool...and a very clever way to differentiate them. I presume that means it's really trivial to change the menu backgrounds then?

I take it the 4L13 update that was just released officially, won't stop themes from working?

I am almost 100% positive it will work with themes. Unless they made some major changes to the system it will still work. Also, themxican, the thing you said about the resources and copying.... I decided to just edit the original files from the system themselves. Is this bad? I will try your idea anyways though to see if I can get my ircle buttons back.

I have no problems with ircle with my skins... so theminator might have zapped some of your resources. just get a clean copy of extras, and past your current theme over it, should fix any problem unless there is something weird going on. (another reason you might have problems would be if you have zapped the masks/alphas of certain widgets... or if you have pasted wrong sized alphas or masks...)


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[Synotic]

Originally posted by themexican:
I have no problems with ircle with my skins... so theminator might have zapped some of your resources. just get a clean copy of extras, and past your current theme over it, should fix any problem unless there is something weird going on. (another reason you might have problems would be if you have zapped the masks/alphas of certain widgets... or if you have pasted wrong sized alphas or masks...)

Phew! It worked. Here is an updated pic of my titanium theme which has buttons working:




I know about the white line on the windows and the messed up end caps on the title bars. Any other thing you notice tell me. I will be updating all my themes with the fix. If you wish to get seeded my themes as i progress send me an e-mail and request to be on the newsletter:

[email protected]

Thanks.