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View Poll Results: Which ones would it have to be ?
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Sony PlayStation 3 203 votes (32.02%)
Nintendo Wii 329 votes (51.89%)
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None 34 votes (5.36%)
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
And it's officially over before it started...

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/2...Limitation.php
I kind of got that vibe from the Engadget Show when they kept switching out editors to play, never more than two at a time. FAIL.
     
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Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
Nobody? Why are you so cross? I was just saying that I thought it looked awesome, if that's alright with you.
You'll have to pardon me, but "you monster" looks like you're addressing somebody. What did you mean by it instead?
     
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Jun 30, 2010, 02:22 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
And it's officially over before it started...

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/2...Limitation.php
Ouch. Bets on whether Kinect will even reach 20% of 360 users?

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Jun 30, 2010, 02:25 PM
 
I'll take the under.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
You'll have to pardon me, but "you monster" looks like you're addressing somebody. What did you mean by it instead?
Oh, I assumed you watched the video at the first link that you posted. It's the last line of the first Portal 2 video.
     
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Jun 30, 2010, 02:43 PM
 
I watched both videos. I guess I didn't notice the dialogue so much as the gameplay.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I'll take the under.
Only way it'll ever go above being a niche product is if Microsoft comes out with a bundled Xbox and Kinect package, say the forthcoming $199 Xbox with Kinect for $299, and I doubt that'd even be terribly successful.
     
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Jun 30, 2010, 02:51 PM
 
They are doing a bundle, but I disagree that it'd work. Only if they eliminated a standalone 360 could they get to 20%.
     
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So which will get the least sales, Kinect or Move?
     
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Kinect. Easily, in my opinion.
     
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Portal 2, wow...just.....wow.
     
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Jun 30, 2010, 05:47 PM
 
Also, Yahtzee sums up E3 by lampooning all three companies mercilessly.

The Escapist : Video Galleries : Zero Punctuation : E3 2010
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Kinect. Easily, in my opinion.
Even though for two people to use Move it'll cost $300? Although maybe it's the price of looking a bit less ridiculous...
     
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Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
Portal 2, wow...just.....wow.
Yeah. Me want-y.
     
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Jun 30, 2010, 07:01 PM
 
I really hope they up the difficulty without making 'death hazards' more frequent.

Like in a sweet total conversion for Portal, called Portal: Prelude, they like to make use of a lot of turrets in order to make levels difficult. While still very challenging, the allure of Portal for me is the ability to get stumped by a puzzle, not get stumped by enemies shooting you.
     
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Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
I kind of got that vibe from the Engadget Show when they kept switching out editors to play, never more than two at a time. FAIL.
Why is "only 2" such a big deal? You often have 4 friends over all wanting to flail their limbs around at the same time in a limited space?

Who here seriously sees these types of games needing 3+ players at the same time?
     
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There are only two instances I can think of with 4 players at the same time.

Rock Band, and 007 on N64.

That's about it. If you are trying to play the Wii with 4 people in a living room, a lamp or something is getting knocked over.
     
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Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
Even though for two people to use Move it'll cost $300? Although maybe it's the price of looking a bit less ridiculous...
$300?

2 Person Setup (You only need one camera so you don't need two bundles)

$99 (Move Bundle) [ PS Eye / Move Controller / Nav Controller / Sport Champions Game ]
$49 (Move Controller)
$29 (Nav Controller)
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$177
     
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Originally Posted by exca1ibur View Post
$300?

2 Person Setup (You only need one camera so you don't need two bundles)

$99 (Move Bundle) [ PS Eye / Move Controller / Nav Controller / Sport Champions Game ]
$49 (Move Controller)
$29 (Nav Controller)
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$177
Oi, for some reason I did the price of four in my head...
     
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES View Post
Why is "only 2" such a big deal? You often have 4 friends over all wanting to flail their limbs around at the same time in a limited space?

Who here seriously sees these types of games needing 3+ players at the same time?
If they ever make a FPS, yes...
     
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES View Post
Why is "only 2" such a big deal? You often have 4 friends over all wanting to flail their limbs around at the same time in a limited space?

Who here seriously sees these types of games needing 3+ players at the same time?
One of the original Kinect videos showed a family playing a trivia game, using their hands as buzzers. I could definitely see my friends wanting to play something like that (we like Scene It well enough).

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Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
Even though for two people to use Move it'll cost $300? Although maybe it's the price of looking a bit less ridiculous...
All Kinect has is a dancing game. I don't think the controller-less gameplay is more appealing, either. At least Sony is the WiiHD with better accuracy.
     
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Best Quality Games in 2010 (Thus Far) belong to the DS and PS3: Metacritic: The Best Games of 2010 So Far

     
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Jul 3, 2010, 12:26 AM
 
Yeah, like what good games have been released already this year?

I'm still playing last years games - MW2, Bioshock 2 , and soon ME2. I guess there is Red Dead Redemption. I'm looking forward to: Crackdown 2 (maybe?), Halo Reach, Fable 3 which haven't been released. Oh wait Bioshock 2 was released this year, wasn't it?

One other thing, they came out with a new Xbox 360, but it has no Blu-Ray player? What's with that? Man I was looking at Walmart the other day and they had a DVD set of the 3 Underworld movies for 13.99. I was tempted, but then I realized they're probably on blu-ray too. Sure enough I found them on Blu-ray for twice the price. Didn't buy them since I don't have a BR player. I'll have to get one, one of these days.
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Jesus, you can get an Xbox 360 Arcade for $150 at Target and get back a $30 gift card! That's pretty damn good!
     
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Originally Posted by Leonard View Post
Yeah, like what good games have been released already this year?
- PS3
God of War III
Heavy Rain
Modnation Racers
MLB '10: The Show

- Wii
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Tiger Woods 11
Monster Hunter Tri

- 360
Mass Effect 2
Splinter Cell: Conviction
Alan Wake

- Cross Platform
Red Dead Redemption
Final Fantasy XIII
Battlefield: Bad Company 2
Just Cause 2
Transformers: War for Cybertron

One other thing, they came out with a new Xbox 360, but it has no Blu-Ray player? What's with that? Man I was looking at Walmart the other day and they had a DVD set of the 3 Underworld movies for 13.99. I was tempted, but then I realized they're probably on blu-ray too. Sure enough I found them on Blu-ray for twice the price. Didn't buy them since I don't have a BR player. I'll have to get one, one of these days.
Could it be becaaaaaaaause...Sony owns Blu-ray? Either Microsoft doesn't want it in their console (driving up hardware costs), or Sony doesn't want it in the 360 (seems like rejecting boatloads of cash).

One of the best uses for Blu-ray on a huge HDTV is the Planet Earth collection. Breathtaking stuff.

Also, here's a link to a great Blu-ray player: Fantastic Deal
     
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Originally Posted by Jawbone54 View Post
Could it be becaaaaaaaause...Sony owns Blu-ray? Either Microsoft doesn't want it in their console (driving up hardware costs), or Sony doesn't want it in the 360 (seems like rejecting boatloads of cash).
Sony doesn't own Blu-ray, and nothing is stopping Microsoft from putting it whatever they want.

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Sony doesn't own Blu-ray, and nothing is stopping Microsoft from putting it whatever they want.
Sorry. Not "owned" by Sony, but they are one in a group of Blu-ray patent holders.
     
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Sorry. Not "owned" by Sony, but they are one in a group of Blu-ray patent holders.
They have patents, yes. But the Blu-ray Disc Association is the one who hands out licenses, and they have 20 different companies on their board. Sony couldn't do a single thing to keep Microsoft from including Blu-ray on any device they wanted to.

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Originally Posted by jokell82 View Post
They have patents, yes. But the Blu-ray Disc Association is the one who hands out licenses, and they have 20 different companies on their board. Sony couldn't do a single thing to keep Microsoft from including Blu-ray on any device they wanted to.
Makes sense. I humbly accept the correction.
     
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Best Quality Games in 2010 (Thus Far) belong to the DS and PS3: Metacritic: The Best Games of 2010 So Far

The PS3 is winning? Over, what, the 360? With its 4 games to 4 games lead?
     
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The PS3 is winning? Over, what, the 360? With its 4 games to 4 games lead?
Really all it does is point out that the real difference in quality between the consoles is marginal at best. I am surprised that the Wii isn't below the 360 on the list though, considering the crap that third-party publishers put out for it.
     
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That, too, is marginal at best. What is surprising is the 360 had twice as many games come out this year. Wut?
     
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This year's been a pretty good year for gaming in general. A lot of landmark titles, or at least well-made titles, have/are coming out.
     
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I thought ME2 came out last year, but I stand corrected. It came out in January.
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I am surprised that the Wii isn't below the 360 on the list though, considering the crap that third-party publishers put out for it.
In retrospect, I don't wonder if that's because developers have cooled on the profit potential of the platform.
     
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So the Xbox goes to glossy black, and the PS3 goes matte white. Oh the irony.

Also, saw the new Xbox controllers in the store today. All black, even the buttons (which were dark grey before) and the strip on the bottom is now glossy black. Looks like they tweaked the Xbox logo on the controller too, as it's now chrome. I guess all the older colors (pink, red, white, etc.) are being discontinued. Guess black IS the new white?
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They need to bring back the classic PS1 gray. They can keep the white.
     
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Or they could make it 90s PC beige. That'd be a winner.
     
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Nah...I prefer the white PS3. Too bad I still have the shiny, black behemoth model.
     
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Or they could make it 90s PC beige. That'd be a winner.
Where's my beige plastic 27" iMac?
     
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Or they could make it 90s PC beige. That'd be a winner.
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The stupid thing looks so much like a PC already that actually works in some kind of ****ed up way.
     
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LIMBO is coming to xbox arcade on July 21st. I may pick this up just on the creepy atmosphere and how cool it looks.

YouTube - Limbo Xbox Live Arcade Trailer [E3 2010][720P HD]

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Super secret DLC reductions in price...

Mass Effect: Bring Down The Sky - Now 80 MSP. Was 400 MSP.
Project Gotham Racing 3: Various Cars - Various Prices. Most Were 400 MSP.
Project Gotham Racing 4: Premium Challenge Pack - Now 80 MSP. Was 400 MSP.
Lost Odyssey: Dungeon Pack - Now 80 MSP. Was 400 MSP.
Perfect Dark Zero: Map Pack One - Now 160 MSP. Was 500 MSP.
Forza 2: Various Race Track Packs - Now 80 MSP. Was 100+ MSP.
Kameo: Power Pack - Now 80 MSP. Was 400 MSP.
Blue Dragon: Shuffle Dungeon - Now 80 MSP. Was 400 MSP.
Blue Dragon: 6 Treasures - Now 80 MSP. Was 200 MSP.
Phantasy Star Universe: Ambition of the Illuminus Expansion Pack - FREE. Was 800 MSP.
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• My XBOX is officially in the first throes of RRODitus.
So, I finally got around to sending that out two weeks ago and it just came back today. It spent like half its time waiting to be sent out after being fixed.
     
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Mine is having some issues. Won't boot occasionally, and sometimes the whole OS hangs. It's odd, it sounds like a software issue, not hardware.
     
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Well, I was being lazy this week, but since the NPD came out I guess I'll do a round up of some of the week's stories.

June NPD: Hardware's way up, Red Dead reloads | Joystiq

DS: 511K, up 127K (+33%)
360: 453K, up 257K (+132%)
Wii: 423K, up 88K (+26%)
PS3: 305K, up 150K (+97%)
PSP: 121K, up 62K (+105%)

Red Dead Redemption – Xbox 360 – Take-Two – 582.9K
Super Mario Galaxy 2 – Wii – Nintendo – 548.4K
Red Dead Redemption – PS3 – Take-Two – 380.3K
New Super Mario Bros. Wii – Wii – Nintendo – 200.9K
Just Dance – Wii – Ubisoft – 174.8K
Wii Fit Plus w/ Balance Board – Wii – Nintendo
Toy Story 3 – DS – Disney
UFC 2010: Undisputed – Xbox 360 – THQ
LEGO Harry Potter: Years 1-4 – Wii – WBIE
UFC 2010: Undisputed – PS3 – THQ

Pretty much as expected.



Gamasutra - News - Exclusive: Wii Software Growth Peaking, Falling Behind PS2



However, it then appears to have hit a plateau in 2009 with sales inching up only marginally, and falling behind the estimated trajectory of PlayStation 2 software sales.

By the end of its third calendar year on the market, the Wii had sold just slightly more software than the PlayStation 2 had done by the end of its third calendar year.

However, the Wii moved that much software on an installed base 5 million systems larger than what the PlayStation 2 had. (For those familiar with the term as used by the NPD Group, this means the PlayStation 2 had a higher tie ratio, more units of software per system.)
I have to wonder if the economy has anything to do with this.




Report: Infinity Ward suit updated, claims Activision created 'police state' | Joystiq
When a group of employees met with CFO Thomas Tippl in April to demand the bonus, according to the suit, Tippl responded "Get over it."


Tim Schafer Calls Activision Boss "A Total Prick"
"His obligation is to his shareholders," Schafer tells Eurogamer. "Well, he doesn't have to be as much of a dick about it, does he? I think there is a way he can do it without being a total prick. It seems like it would be possible. It's not something he's interested in."



Dashboard Redesign Coming in November? [Update]
"Yes, the next Xbox LIVE update will include Family Center," a Microsoft spokesperson told Kotaku. "As we discussed at E3 it will also include a refreshed Xbox LIVE dashboard, the new Kinect Hub and ESPN. This update will be available over LIVE just prior to Kinect for Xbox 360 being available in store in November. We have no additional details to share at this time."
Mehhhhhhhhhhhh



Microsoft Cans 1 Vs. 100 for Xbox 360 [Updated]
Resisting the urge to say "You are the weakest link..."



Did You Think Fable II Had A Bunch Of Bugs?
"At one point we had 67,000 bugs," he said, "and when the Xbox test team tested the game they rated us super-black. That never had happened to a game before, Microsoft had in the past rated some games as 'Red', but never 'Black'."

According to Molyneux, "It was thought that coming back from black was impossible." But Fable II did just that.
Something to be both ashamed and proud of. Also explains the terrible co-op.



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Sad to see 1 vs 100 go away. It was fun. I hear they're gonna replace it with something better.
     
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Well, the new dashboard looks like it borrows heavily from the Zune and Windows Phone 7. Still, nice to see some commonality among MS products for once.
     
 
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