Welcome to the MacNN Forums.

engage1000 · Feb 17, 2003, 10:38 PM

A poll on how many MacNNers smoke. Please vote honestly!

Landos Mustache · Feb 17, 2003, 10:41 PM

If you are stupid enough to smoke you deserve to get cancer and DIE!

Ozmodiar · Feb 17, 2003, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
If you are stupid enough to smoke you deserve to get cancer and DIE!

oh that's real nice.

until you've been a smoker and quit you have no idea how lame not smoking is.

Montanan · Feb 17, 2003, 10:44 PM

You mean tobacco, right? Well then ... no, absolutely not. Hate the stuff, and the people who use it.

MacGorilla · Feb 17, 2003, 10:46 PM

I watched my cousin die of lung cancer when I was 12. Ever watch someone slowly choke to death and drown over a month?

engage1000 · Feb 17, 2003, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
If you are stupid enough to smoke you deserve to get cancer and DIE!

So... are you one of those guys who holds grudges against people for stuff like that?

Worst. Episode. Ever. · Feb 17, 2003, 10:47 PM

tobacco

cannabis

Cubeoid · Feb 17, 2003, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
If you are stupid enough to smoke you deserve to get cancer and DIE!

Hate to tell you this, but most of the greatest thinkers of our time have been and are smokers. If we would live by your claim, this would be a pretty sad world.

voodoo · Feb 17, 2003, 10:49 PM

Camel filters. I smoke 'em. I don't smoke when I drink, though.

When I feel like it, when I am stressed, when I want to basically. Some days nothing, other days a whole pack.

xi_hyperon · Feb 17, 2003, 10:51 PM

Cool. It's always nice to know that people who don't even know me hate me.

Ozmodiar · Feb 17, 2003, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by voodoo:
When I feel like it, when I am stressed, when I want to basically. Some days nothing, other days a whole pack.

describes my habbit to a T.

'cept i always smoke when i drink.

Landos Mustache · Feb 17, 2003, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by Ozmodiar:

until you've been a smoker and quit you have no idea how lame not smoking is.

I would never be stupid enough to START smoking in the first place. Everyone I know that smokes wanted to smoke. It takes like crap at first, you have to learn to breath it in and like the taste, so why in the hell would you start in the first place? Cuz you look so cool, want to lose weight or are stressed. Ya great reasons.

I have asthma because my dad smoked when my mom was pregnant, I get second hand smoke all the time when I am at a bar or a restaurant. It is disgusting and disrespectful.

You want to smoke and kill yourself go nuts but do it outside or in your own house.

Sealobo · Feb 17, 2003, 10:55 PM

i don't smoke. It's expensive.

engage1000 · Feb 17, 2003, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by voodoo:
When I feel like it, when I am stressed, when I want to basically. Some days nothing, other days a whole pack.

I think that goes for a lot of smokers. Myself included. I've never been physically able to smoke a whole pack in one day though. That's intense. But, I smoke strong cigs. Meh.

engage1000 · Feb 17, 2003, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by sealobo:
i don't smoke. It's expensive.

****ing right it is. Almost time to quit.

MacGorilla · Feb 17, 2003, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by xi_hyperon:
Cool. It's always nice to know that people who don't even know me hate me.

Nah, I don't hate you. I just disagree with you. I can hate you, if you want

Zimmerman · Feb 17, 2003, 10:58 PM

Sorry people; smoking cannabis, jane, marajuana, etc/whatever is also smoking, and in most respects, worse for you since it isn't filtered. Your lungs clog up and get cancer at the same rate as tobacco smokers. So if you smoke pot, you have to vote yes.

Ozmodiar · Feb 17, 2003, 11:00 PM

some studies suggest THC is a cancer inhibitor, though. so they'll die just from clogged lungs and lost brain cells. it's cancer for the rest of us.

Zimmerman · Feb 17, 2003, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by Ozmodiar:
some studies suggest THC is a cancer inhibitor, though. so they'll die just from clogged lungs and lost brain cells. it's cancer for the rest of us.

Freaking sweet. So have they conducted test with cancerous rats and a more effective THC delivery system? (adding it to their food).

Can they even isolate THC very effectively? Will we see THC poppers on the streets soon? What ever happened to Vanilla Ice? Why did Apple discontinue the Newton? How big is the universe? Where is God in all of this? How long does it take an ant with a wooden leg to kick a watermellon to pieces? Will I be able to understand the Intermediate Value Theorem and the Precise definition of a limit and how to do Epsilon/Delta problems in time for my midterm on Wednesday?

Tune in next time for the answer to all these questions!

Ozmodiar · Feb 17, 2003, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by Zimmerman:
Freaking sweet. So have they conducted test with cancerous rats and a more effective THC delivery system? (adding it to their food).

Can they even isolate THC very effectively? Will we see THC poppers on the streets soon? What ever happened to Vanilla Ice? Why did Apple discontinue the Newton? How big is the universe? Where is God in all of this? How long does it take an ant with a wooden leg to kick a watermellon to pieces? Will I be able to understand the Intermediate Value Theorem and the Precise definition of a limit and how to do Epsilon/Delta problems in time for my midterm on Wednesday?

Tune in next time for the answer to all these questions!

this post makes me tired

Lerkfish · Feb 17, 2003, 11:16 PM

I don't smoke. I also don't wish cancer on those who do... My dad smoked 4 packs a day and died (we think) from a complication of Bronchitis and other unrelated extenuating circumstances.
He wanted to quit. When he started smoking, there wasn't anything known about the dangers.
I don't begrudge him having smoked, I just regret it, for him.

Anyone who smokes today SHOULD know abou the dangers and the expense, and should make an informed choice. I don't understand choosing to smoke as a choice I would make personally, but hey, life is short anyways.

Sealobo · Feb 17, 2003, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by Zimmerman:
Will I be able to understand the Intermediate Value Theorem and the Precise definition of a limit and how to do Epsilon/Delta problems in time for my midterm on Wednesday?

HAHA~! Been there, done that.

You're in deep ****.

Landos Mustache · Feb 17, 2003, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by Lerkfish:
I don't smoke. I also don't wish cancer on those who do... My dad smoked 4 packs a day and died (we think) from a complication of Bronchitis and other unrelated extenuating circumstances.

4 packs a DAY! How could ANYONE think that is good for you. 4 bags of chips a day will kill you. When you inhail smoke you cough and here someone is putting 4 packs a day in em. That is one after another!

keekeeree · Feb 17, 2003, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by Zimmerman:
How long does it take an ant with a wooden leg to kick a watermellon to pieces?

I believe this is the single most inane sentence I've seen on these boards...most excellent

Mulattabianca · Feb 17, 2003, 11:20 PM

not the tabacco.

Zimphire · Feb 17, 2003, 11:23 PM

Smoked for 10 years, quit 2 years ago.

Ver de Terre · Feb 18, 2003, 12:18 AM

No smoking for me, thank you very much.

Congratulations to everyone who has managed to quit.

starman · Feb 18, 2003, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
If you are stupid enough to smoke you deserve to get cancer and DIE!

That statement's about as stupid as when people say they'd never date anyone with a tattoo because it marks up their body.

Mike

tooki · Feb 18, 2003, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by Zimmerman:
Can they even isolate THC very effectively?

It's available by prescription under the trade name Marinol. But since THC alone (there are hundreds of other active agents in cannabis) doesn't do all that much, it's not as effective as the other legal alternatives.

tooki

Landos Mustache · Feb 18, 2003, 12:28 AM

Ya tattoo's cause cancer on yourself and others.

Zimmerman · Feb 18, 2003, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by keekeeree:
I believe this is the single most inane sentence I've seen on these boards...most excellent

And the answer to the selected question is...

... three days because fleas don't ride bycicles.

Fallout · Feb 18, 2003, 12:33 AM

Cigs are pointless to me. And they're $10/pack here too, and I can't afford $10 for pointless crap every few days. Weed, however...

Cipher13 · Feb 18, 2003, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by Zimmerman:
Freaking sweet. So have they conducted test with cancerous rats and a more effective THC delivery system? (adding it to their food).

Can they even isolate THC very effectively? Will we see THC poppers on the streets soon? What ever happened to Vanilla Ice? Why did Apple discontinue the Newton? How big is the universe? Where is God in all of this? How long does it take an ant with a wooden leg to kick a watermellon to pieces? Will I be able to understand the Intermediate Value Theorem and the Precise definition of a limit and how to do Epsilon/Delta problems in time for my midterm on Wednesday?

Tune in next time for the answer to all these questions!

Gimme a plant and a high school lab (hell, you can do it in your back yard if you really want to), and even I can isolate the THC pretty damn well. VERY high street value. Much better for you too.

THC oil... no smoke, no carcinogens, ~70% pure THC, and about 5 times as much impact per $$ of weed.

Oh, and the universe is (very roughly) possibly about 1.288079e+23 km across.

Vanilla Ice? Nobody knows...

Cipher13 · Feb 18, 2003, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
I would never be stupid enough to START smoking in the first place. Everyone I know that smokes wanted to smoke. It takes like crap at first, you have to learn to breath it in and like the taste, so why in the hell would you start in the first place? Cuz you look so cool, want to lose weight or are stressed. Ya great reasons.

I have asthma because my dad smoked when my mom was pregnant, I get second hand smoke all the time when I am at a bar or a restaurant. It is disgusting and disrespectful.

You want to smoke and kill yourself go nuts but do it outside or in your own house.

You don't have to "learn" anything. It isn't like rocket science. And how would you know, anyway, if you've never smoked?

Have you ever had a cigarette? (serious question)

Yes, smoking inside in public places is wrong (except for pubs, for obvious reasons). I don't even smoke near people that don't like it (I don't smoke very often at all, actually).

Originally posted by Ozmodiar:
oh that's real nice.

until you've been a smoker and quit you have no idea how lame not smoking is.

Very true. I only smoke because it keeps my occupied. I'm one of those people that has to be doing something every waking minute. Why do you think I spend so much time here? Watching television annoys me... you just sit there.

Smoking keeps my hands occupied.

Cipher13 · Feb 18, 2003, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by Montanan:
You mean tobacco, right? Well then ... no, absolutely not. Hate the stuff, and the people who use it.

How can you hate the people that smoke tobacco, and not those who smoke pot...? That's the general impression I got from your post... Please Explain�.

-----

I've explained this before. I don't smoke much. When I do it's usually Marlboro reds, or more often Winfield reds (16mg) - because I can never find 555's, which are the best.

If I can be bothered I roll my own. Port Royal Rum & Wine. Best tobacco ever. Well, apart from the expensive import stuff... yum. Filterless, of course. Filters are for pussies.

starman · Feb 18, 2003, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
Ya tattoo's cause cancer on yourself and others.

You totally missed the point. There are worse qualities people have than smoking.

Mike

Landos Mustache · Feb 18, 2003, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by Cipher13:
You don't have to "learn" anything. It isn't like rocket science. And how would you know, anyway, if you've never smoked?

Have you ever had a cigarette? (serious question)

Yes, I tried it a few times to see what all the fuss is about. It tastes sooo nasty and makes me choke. If it tasted like chocolate and strawberries I might like it but it tastes like ass!

starman · Feb 18, 2003, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
Yes, I tried it a few times to see what all the fuss is about. It tastes sooo nasty and makes me choke. If it tasted like chocolate and strawberries I might like it but it tastes like ass!

How do you know what ass tastes like?

Mike

Ozmodiar · Feb 18, 2003, 12:59 AM

If cigarettes tasted like chocolate and strawberries, I would never not have a cig in my hand.

And you don't smoke for the taste you smoke for either the buzz or the activity.

Montanan · Feb 18, 2003, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by Cipher13:
How can you hate the people that smoke tobacco, and not those who smoke pot...? That's the general impression I got from your post... Please Explain?.

If you'll reread my statement a little more carefully, you'll realize that it made no judgements whatsoever about people who smoke pot.

As for the tobacco smokers:

- I hate the way they smell.
- I hate the way their used ashtrays look and smell.
- I hate the way, when I inadvertantly share a room, a car, or an elevator with a smoker (even one who's not smoking at the moment), that my clothes pick up that stale tobacco smell.
- I hate they way they litter the streets and parks with cigarette butts.
- I hate the way their second-hand smoke makes innocent people sick.
- I hate the way their lack of concern for their own well-being increases our society's health-care costs, and ultimately my insurance rates.
- And -- for many of them -- I hate their arrogance, for demanding that they have the "right" to impose all of the above on the people around them.

starman · Feb 18, 2003, 01:04 AM

I think the poll should read:

Yes, I'm a heavy smoker
Yes, I'm a social smoker
No, I don't smoke at all

Mike

Ozmodiar · Feb 18, 2003, 01:07 AM

Life is not about appeasement. I don't like to see people wearing bright clothes or large hats - do they have to stop doing something they enjoy just for me?

What about music? I hate the music my roommate listens to (Cake, 311, Sublime, etc...blech) but I don't demand that he stop listening to music when I'm around.

Zimphire · Feb 18, 2003, 01:19 AM

Originally posted by Cipher13:
Very true. I only smoke because it keeps my occupied. I'm one of those people that has to be doing something every waking minute. Why do you think I spend so much time here? Watching television annoys me... you just sit there.

Smoking keeps my hands occupied.

Same reason why I used to smoke.

Chew gum.

Montanan · Feb 18, 2003, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by Ozmodiar:
Life is not about appeasement. I don't like to see people wearing bright clothes or large hats - do they have to stop doing something they enjoy just for me?

If those bright clothes and large hats happen to also be releasing carcinogens into the air that other people have to breathe ... then, yeah.

Cipher13 · Feb 18, 2003, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
Yes, I tried it a few times to see what all the fuss is about. It tastes sooo nasty and makes me choke. If it tasted like chocolate and strawberries I might like it but it tastes like ass!

Try the Port Royal Rum & Wine. It is actually *nice*.

Cipher13 · Feb 18, 2003, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by Montanan:
If you'll reread my statement a little more carefully, you'll realize that it made no judgements whatsoever about people who smoke pot.

As for the tobacco smokers:

- I hate the way they smell.
- I hate the way their used ashtrays look and smell.
- I hate the way, when I inadvertantly share a room, a car, or an elevator with a smoker (even one who's not smoking at the moment), that my clothes pick up that stale tobacco smell.
- I hate they way they litter the streets and parks with cigarette butts.
- I hate the way their second-hand smoke makes innocent people sick.
- I hate the way their lack of concern for their own well-being increases our society's health-care costs, and ultimately my insurance rates.
- And -- for many of them -- I hate their arrogance, for demanding that they have the "right" to impose all of the above on the people around them.

1. Me too.
2. As opposed to normal garbage bins? Do you hate garbage bins and the people that use them too? That's a pretty silly gripe.
3. Me too.
4. Generalisation. Same could be said about *any* person. Goddamn potato chip eaters... they should all die.
5. Generalisation. As I said, I don't smoke at ALL around non-smokers.
6. Same could be said about people who eat fast food; and don't work out; and... come on. That's just ridiculous.
7. Again, generalisation, but at least you acknowledge it.

pooka · Feb 18, 2003, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by Montanan:
If those bright clothes and large hats happen to also be releasing carcinogens into the air that other people have to breathe ... then, yeah.

Nah man, but your car man. That's like poluting my lungs and ****, yo! Like stop it man...

How bout that jackass muthafukas who backpack and climb ****ing mountains. ****ing getting lost or falling down. Pissing away our tax dollars with needless search and rescues. Not to mention jacking up my insurance rates because of their reckless behavior. Hang the *******s, man!

Oh, and I don't smoke.

undotwa · Feb 18, 2003, 01:42 AM

Hating someone for smoking Tobacco is stupid.

Smoking can do horrible things for people, and the effects of nicotine can start to affect you really badly mentally. It's sad to see some people just whither away, smoking cigarette after cigarette.

Even smoking occasionally won't do you any good, and if the nicotine doesn't affect you very much, well good for you. For some people, like my aunt, it affects them very much. After all it is a drug.

Cipher13 · Feb 18, 2003, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by undotwa:
Smoking can do horrible things for people, and the effects of nicotine can start to affect you really badly mentally.

Elaborate?

Zimphire · Feb 18, 2003, 02:12 AM

Nicotine has effect one ones nervous system. Which effects your brain.

I know sense I stopped smoking I can get to sleep a lot easier. And I don't feel as stressed out as I did when I was smoking.

I know people think when they smoke a cig, they are going to calm down, but in reality this isn't true. Nicotine raises the heart rate, and such. You just feel more relaxed because your body got the nicotine it was craving. And type of addiction has psychological effects on a person.