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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Ok, fair reminder. But I think that reinforces the Dems point: that having a hand in firing Comey looks shady. If he wanted to avoid the appearance of impropriety he shouldn't have gotten involved. And, considering Rosenstein, I don't know why he would have risked it.
Rosenstein isn't reliable. Trump needed more cover, and Sessions determined providing it was less risky than not.
     
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Why is Rosenstein not reliable?
     
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May 19, 2017, 04:20 PM
 
The scuttle I hear on him is that relatively speaking, he's a stand-up guy.
     
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Why is Rosenstein not reliable?
I reckon subego meant this from Trump's perspective: Rosenstein's decision to appoint a special counsel means he isn't loyal to Trump.
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I reckon subego meant this from Trump's perspective: Rosenstein's decision to appoint a special counsel means he isn't loyal to Trump.
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But that after the fact. Why was he not reliable before the firing of Comey?
     
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May 23, 2017, 06:45 AM
 
I'm going to give in to ease of communication.

There's reliable, and there's cockholster reliable.

I'm talking about the second kind. They knew he wasn't that from lack of moisture.
     
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May 23, 2017, 09:56 AM
 
They didn't need reliable they needed cover. They were asking him for a list of grievances. If he didn't deliver Sessions could have gotten involved at the cost of a whole day perhaps.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
They didn't need reliable they needed cover. They were asking him for a list of grievances. If he didn't deliver Sessions could have gotten involved at the cost of a whole day perhaps.
Look, your reply is entirely logical, and I think Trump's actions just aren't based on logic. Trump could have fired Comey for the same motives in a manner that could be politically explainable. Instead, he has no filter between his brain and mouth that prevents him from saying things that will get him into deep trouble.
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May 23, 2017, 01:04 PM
 
We're talking Sessions here, though. Presumably he had a choice in the matter. He chose to get involved even though he shouldn't.
     
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May 23, 2017, 02:07 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
They didn't need reliable they needed cover. They were asking him for a list of grievances. If he didn't deliver Sessions could have gotten involved at the cost of a whole day perhaps.
The cover doesn't hold up as well if the guy resigns in protest the next day for being used as cover.

The scuttle is that's what he threatened.
     
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The cover doesn't hold up as well if the guy resigns in protest the next day for being used as cover.

The scuttle is that's what he threatened.
Again you're using something after the fact to justify their reasoning. If they had known that they wouldn't have used him at all.
     
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May 23, 2017, 03:05 PM
 
I'm using things which happened after the fact to judge his character, which is presumably unchanged from before he wrote the memo, and to some extent, known to his bosses.

They took a risk, which looks like it's not going to pan out. The possibility of that is why Sessions had to be attached.
     
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I'm using things which happened after the fact to judge his character, which is presumably unchanged from before he wrote the memo, and to some extent, known to his bosses.

They took a risk, which looks like it's not going to pan out. The possibility of that is why Sessions had to be attached.
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If he didn't deliver Sessions could have gotten involved at the cost of a whole day perhaps.
     
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May 23, 2017, 05:00 PM
 
Deliver what?

He delivered the memo, but didn't deliver on standing behind it.
     
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May 23, 2017, 09:23 PM
 
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We're talking Sessions here, though. Presumably he had a choice in the matter. He chose to get involved even though he shouldn't.
Agreed.
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May 24, 2017, 09:48 AM
 
His choice was "provide cover or kiss my pardon goodbye".
     
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May 24, 2017, 10:27 AM
 
In retrospect, I'm looking for logic and sense in Trumps actions. I am at fault here.
     
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+1

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May 24, 2017, 10:43 AM
 
I have to assume Trump dragged Sessions into it, who may have dragged Rosenstein in to try to get the heat off him. But the damage was done.
     
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May 24, 2017, 10:54 AM
 
No question. Whatever objections Sessions had, Trump, culling from his years of experience in these types of matters, replied to him "this is not what I'm paying you for".
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
In retrospect, I'm looking for logic and sense in Trumps actions. I am at fault here.
Definitely.
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Looks like they're trial ballooning a pink slip.
     
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Looks like they're trial ballooning a pink slip.
My read is with the Comey testimony coming up, Trump is looking to blame Sessions for getting him into this mess.
     
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Jun 8, 2017, 11:20 AM
 
Comey expected Sessions to recuse himself regarding Russia weeks before it happened but can't discuss why in open Session. This gives me life.
     
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Jun 8, 2017, 08:06 PM
 
Current leak is Sessions "forgot" another one of those pesky meetings with the Russians.
     
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Jun 8, 2017, 08:38 PM
 
NBC is running with it.

He's such a ****up.
     
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Jun 8, 2017, 10:09 PM
 
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Current leak is Sessions "forgot" another one of those pesky meetings with the Russians.
I'm pretty sure I read this last week and I was going to post it, but in context I found it to be harmless. I think the third being referred to is that hotel speech gave early on where Kislyak was present. I don't recall the details anymore, but it didn't come off as alarming.

About the only thing I will say is where are the non-russian foreign meetings he forgot about. And if this is on top of his 'revised' paperwork he submitted, meaning he need another revision.
     
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Jun 8, 2017, 10:11 PM
 
As far as job security, I think the FBI director search is showing that its difficult for this admin to get willing and qualified job applicants. Trying to replace an AG would be another nightmare they don't need.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I'm pretty sure I read this last week and I was going to post it, but in context I found it to be harmless. I think the third being referred to is that hotel speech gave early on where Kislyak was present. I don't recall the details anymore, but it didn't come off as alarming.

About the only thing I will say is where are the non-russian foreign meetings he forgot about. And if this is on top of his 'revised' paperwork he submitted, meaning he need another revision.
It's notable discussion wasn't in the open session.

I get the impression it wasn't in his revision.
     
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It's notable discussion wasn't in the open session.

I get the impression it wasn't in his revision.

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Comey expected Sessions to recuse himself regarding Russia weeks before it happened but can't discuss why in open Session. This gives me life.
My guess is compartmentalization means he can't discuss anything about Sessions, whether its applicable or not. To me, the implication was there was something beyond these meetings that cast a shadow over his neutrality. But I fully admit this is speculation based on his minimal testimony.

Would a few unreported meetings be enough to cause Comey to expect Sessions to recuse himself weeks before he did so? If the answer is yes, then I guess it could be nothing overall.
     
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I'm assuming they assumed recusal because they've got some serious dirt.

I guess I'm connecting the meeting to that, perhaps incorrectly.
     
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NBC is running with it.

He's such a ****up.
NBC is simply awful.
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If I had to pick a network, I'd prefer ABC. They've always seemed the most together.
     
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Sessions having a lot of recollection issues
     
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I actually forgot this was happening. The studios released it too close to the blockbuster.
     
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Sessions having a lot of recollection issues
Sound like a Hillary testimony. "I don't recall"
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Sessions' latest move (before his testimony): asked Congress to let him prosecute medical marijuana in states that have legalized it. It seems States' Rights passed by voters should only be honored when he agrees with them.
     
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Yes I wanted to mention that this morning. MEDICAL marijuana. I'd love for him to show me on the doll where marijuana touched him. That's a pretty strong obsession.
     
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So, how about Schroedinger's Executive Privilege?

I thought Harris did a fantastic job demonstrating what a load of BS Sessions was trying to sell.

Hopefully I'll do an in-depth dive later because there's more to unpack than you'd think a testimony full of 'i don't recalls' and 'i can't answer thats' would have.
     
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A lot of Sessions new coming out this am, none good.
     
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Link? I'm not seeing anything.
     
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I honestly can't remember what the first thing was. The second was this: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...cts-with-russi
A recently launched ethics watchdog group called American Oversight filed a Freedom of Information Act request in March for sections of the Standard Form 86 relating to Sessions' contact "with any official of the Russian government."

The group then filed a lawsuit in April after it said the government didn't provide the documents.
A day late, the Justice Department complied this morning with a federal court order and released part of a security clearance form dealing with Attorney General Jeff Sessions' contacts with foreign governments.

On June 12, a judge had ordered the agency to provide the information within 30 days, a deadline that passed on Wednesday.
This is what they released:


Seems like an obvious **** you.
     
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Now is when to double-down. He should ask Congress to lower the speed limit and raise the drinking age.
     
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I honestly can't remember what the first thing was. The second was this: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...cts-with-russi




This is what they released:


Seems like an obvious **** you.
Why the redactions gotta be white?
     
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I guess it was the National Security Copier Act of 2016. The sheer quantity of redactions caused a worldwide shortage of toner.
     
 
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