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The Final Dakar
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May 18, 2017, 11:42 AM
 
Starting a new thread for official news on congressional or special prosecutor actions re: the Russia investigation. The Russia thread will continue for the unofficial pieces that drip out from time to time (if they continue). News regarding Flynn might start going in here, not sure.

First legit news: https://twitter.com/AliABCNews/statu...24990001639425
".@SenatorBurr
says Gen. Flynn's legal team has told Senate Intel committee that Flynn will NOT honor their subpoena for Russia-related docs”


Perhaps related: 'Trump
sends private message to embattled Flynn: "Stay strong”'


Edit: Politico seems to have predicted this a few days ago -
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...a-trump-238404
     
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May 18, 2017, 12:33 PM
 
I honestly wish I had something more clever than Trumptober.
     
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May 18, 2017, 10:40 PM
 
Reported.
     
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May 19, 2017, 12:17 AM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I honestly wish I had something more clever than Trumptober.
I can't help here, but I hope we get a Baba MAGA before it's all said and done.
     
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May 19, 2017, 09:21 AM
 
Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
aside from liking the gif, I liked the juxtaposition of Eva not caring about criticism. Come on Trump, man up.

Also, this tweet from MA rep:

As the Representative of Salem, MA, I can confirm that this is false. https://t.co/8yJIzZBSE8— Seth Moulton (@sethmoulton) May 18, 2017
(we need twitter embed feature!)
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May 19, 2017, 12:13 PM
 
Did the White House ever release a statement in regards to American citizens being attacked by Turkish security?
"…I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than
you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods,
you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F. Roberts
     
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May 19, 2017, 12:36 PM
 
AFAIK, only State has commented.
     
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May 19, 2017, 01:01 PM
 
I'm clueless as to the implications but Dems seem unhappy with Rosensteins briefing. I'll post his statement if I'm on my laptop later
     
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May 19, 2017, 04:27 PM
 
I get impression he was cagey.
     
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May 22, 2017, 10:35 AM
 
Flynn officially pleading the fifth.
     
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May 22, 2017, 11:07 AM
 
So he doesn't want to incriminate himself. Says lots.
     
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Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
So he doesn't want to incriminate himself. Says lots.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/new...105179136.html

“So there are five of them taking the Fifth Amendment, like you see on the mob, right?” he said at another rally in Iowa, though it was three former Clinton staff members who pleaded the Fifth. “The mob takes the Fifth Amendment. If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1609/26/se.01.html

TRUMP: That was more than a mistake. That was done purposely. OK? That was not a mistake. That was done purposely. When you have your staff taking the Fifth Amendment, taking the Fifth so they're not prosecuted, when you have the man that set up the illegal server taking the Fifth, I think it's disgraceful. And believe me, this country thinks it's -- really thinks it's disgraceful, also.
     
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May 22, 2017, 01:16 PM
 
Not a tweet but still in the spirit of Trump saying something that can later be used against him (or in this case his admin)
     
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May 24, 2017, 10:26 AM
 
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...panies-n763846

They say a business can't claim the 5th.
     
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Jun 1, 2017, 12:41 PM
 
I predict worldwide popcorn shortages.
     
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Jun 1, 2017, 12:49 PM
 
We need to set up a pool for how much Comey's gonna get smeared between now and the 8th.
     
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Productivity is dipping Thursday
     
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Jun 1, 2017, 12:56 PM
 
I honestly hope my schedule means I'm asleep when it happens. I don't think I'll be able to handle it live.

Much rather rip the bandaid off instead of going all slow.
     
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Jun 1, 2017, 12:59 PM
 
It certainly easier that way.

That said if nothing comes of it it'll be election night all over again.
     
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Jun 1, 2017, 01:58 PM
 
It's unlikely nothing will come of it, but also unlikely it's the killshot people want.
     
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Jun 1, 2017, 02:00 PM
 
I don't expect a killshot. My expectation is Comey will confirm he felt Trump tried to influence him, perhaps the investigation as a whole and that's it. And maybe some hints of further questionable actions are in his notes.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...panies-n763846

They say a business can't claim the 5th.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/mike-fl...tee-1496181428
Mr. Flynn initially refused to cooperate with a Senate subpoena, claiming his constitutional right against self incrimination under the Fifth Amendment. The committee then subpoenaed Mr. Flynn’s records from two of his businesses, which cannot be shielded by the Fifth Amendment.

Mr. Flynn’s attorneys informed the committee on Tuesday in a letter that they would start to produce records responsive to the Senate committee’s subpoenas



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Trump lawyer sent Flynn a plan to lift Russia sanctions: Report

Cohen, of course, is one of the purported four to have had contact with the Russians during the campaign.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/russi...ry?id=47646601
One of President Donald Trump’s closest confidants, his personal lawyer Michael Cohen, has now become a focus of the expanding congressional investigation into Russian efforts to influence the 2016 campaign.

Cohen confirmed to ABC News that House and Senate investigators have asked him “to provide information and testimony” about any contacts he had with people connected to the Russian government, but he said he has turned down the invitation.

“I declined the invitation to participate, as the request was poorly phrased, overly broad and not capable of being answered,” Cohen told ABC News in an email Tuesday.
     
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Jun 7, 2017, 11:31 AM
 
A lot of no commenting and deferring to closed session re: possible trump interference

Edit: Rubio actually asking a tough question
     
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Jun 7, 2017, 01:56 PM
 
Comeys statement for tomorrow is out.
     
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I thought this was a little odd today:
None of these witnesses invoked executive privilege or national security. They just didn’t want to answer. King finally blew up, scolding Rogers that what he “feels” isn’t relevant. He demanded to know why Rogers and Coats were not answering. He demanded a “legal justification” for not answering, and the witnesses did not supply any. Coats strongly hinted he would share information, just not in public, and that he would cooperate with the special prosecutor.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I thought this was a little odd today:
My reading of the tea leaves is that they have nothing substantive to say about laws being broken, but perhaps more testimony that makes Trump and his staff look like muppets, as in the Comey statement.

Perhaps they feel it is not in the national interest to make the president in to even more of laughing stock.

My best guess.
     
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Comey dropped the L word pretty quickly
     
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Jun 8, 2017, 10:27 AM
 
Also said the admin did not ask him to stop Russia investigation
     
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Jun 8, 2017, 10:57 AM
 
Comey: "I hope there are tapes"

Been wondering where they are. No word on White House response or lack there of
     
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Jun 8, 2017, 11:01 AM
 
Comey spelling out the implication: When Trump 'asked' he took it as a direction.
     
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Jun 8, 2017, 11:09 AM
 
Looks like Rubio having Comey affirm Trump is not under investigation
     
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Jun 8, 2017, 11:13 AM
 
He got my talking point about the press.
     
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Jun 8, 2017, 11:25 AM
 
A little victim blaming going on here re: Comey not telling Trump off for his perceived request.
     
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Jun 8, 2017, 12:34 PM
 
McCains questions are real muddled here. Trying to tie in the Hillary investigation to the Russian one. He's confusing Comey.
     
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Jun 8, 2017, 12:40 PM
 
Yeah. I'm not even going to try to figure out what his point was.
     
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Jun 8, 2017, 12:40 PM
 
I think he was trying to paint Comey as unfair because the investigation into Hillary was closed and she was cleared but the election investigation which involves Trump campaign isn't.
     
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Jun 8, 2017, 12:45 PM
 
I know which gif you mean.

Also thought McCain made no sense. And really, we all can hear Trump saying "you know, that thing we had" and imagine what he meant. It was a reminder of a promise.
     
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Jun 8, 2017, 01:08 PM
 
Here's my takeaway from what I followed:

Comey interprets Trump actions as obstruction but leaves the final determination to Mueller. I don't know what Mueller can do if he agrees.

It's unlikely the Trump campaign collided with Russians to influence the election. He also specifically noted he thinks Kislyak isn't an operative in his opinion.

Wouldn't speak about VEB which I believe is linked to Kushners problems.

Nothing about the investigation into Trumps finances (it shouldn't have come up anyway)
     
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Oh yeah, Sessions might be ****ed
     
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Pence has retained legal counsel.
     
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Jun 16, 2017, 09:46 AM
 
Trump has seemingly confirmed on twitter he's under investigation.
     
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I don't believe him. He's a liar.
     
 
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