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Matt OS X
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Jul 2, 2008, 09:51 PM
 
Attention everyone!?

I need a BIG help from you individually by signing a petition about demanding apple.com to provide subtitles on its websiie. It's for Deaf community's sake. Because we are tired of not knowing what the 'guided tour' clips are talking about.

We, the Deaf Community, want Apple Inc. to provide the subtitles on EVERY video clips on the website. With today's technology, it is no excuse for Apple Inc. not to include subtitles! Let's look at lynda.com (#1 online training library), they provide subtitles! Check this link out:

Closed captioning now available - lynda.com

Please sign the petition link below.

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Please sign the petition:
Subtitles on apple.com website!

Thanks in advance!

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Jul 2, 2008, 09:56 PM
 
Signed.
     
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Jul 2, 2008, 10:09 PM
 
Thanks, and please do spread the words.

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Jul 2, 2008, 10:16 PM
 
Good idea

Signinated.

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Jul 3, 2008, 02:30 AM
 
Doesn't this kinda go against your signature?
     
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Jul 3, 2008, 02:32 AM
 
Done
     
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Jul 3, 2008, 05:19 AM
 
Accessibility - yes - now!

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Jul 3, 2008, 11:38 AM
 
It would be nice to have each of you, MacNNers to sign up to show your support, too. Thanks!

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Jul 3, 2008, 11:44 AM
 
Signed.
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Jul 3, 2008, 12:10 PM
 
Signed. I’ve never actually thought about this, but now that you mention it, it is sort of ridiculous.
     
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Jul 3, 2008, 12:18 PM
 
Signed. It will be a good thing for everyone if Apple does this. Apple gets more hits and the deaf community can hear what those creepy dudes are talkin about in those videos.
     
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Jul 4, 2008, 09:43 AM
 
Done. Should be the case everywhere (subtitle options).
     
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I'm getting a "MySQL" error. Won't load
     
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Jul 4, 2008, 12:14 PM
 
signed.
     
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Jul 4, 2008, 12:19 PM
 
Signed!
     
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Jul 4, 2008, 02:57 PM
 
Done! (the signage, not the subtitleage)
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Jul 4, 2008, 03:38 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Milkman View Post
Done! (the signage, not the subtitleage)
You don't say

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Jul 4, 2008, 04:34 PM
 
Done.
     
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Jul 4, 2008, 05:03 PM
 
Quick question. Will those of us that can hear turn off the closed captioned? Or will we all have to watch the text run across the bottom of the screen?
     
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Jul 4, 2008, 05:12 PM
 
Great idea! Love it.
     
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Jul 4, 2008, 09:34 PM
 
Not signed. Screw you Adam Betts!!


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Jul 5, 2008, 12:01 PM
 
That can be considered, too. I did thought of that. I'm sure Apple can make this happen, too.

Originally Posted by Buckaroo View Post
Quick question. Will those of us that can hear turn off the closed captioned? Or will we all have to watch the text run across the bottom of the screen?

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Originally Posted by Matt OS X View Post
That can be considered, too. I did thought of that. I'm sure Apple can make this happen, too.
I certainly hope so, otherwise I vote no.

I don't want text at the bottom of the video. If Apple can do it and have a switch to turn it off and on as needed, fine.
     
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Jul 5, 2008, 04:00 PM
 
Originally Posted by RAzaRazor View Post
Adam Betts!!

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He's still around.
     
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Jul 5, 2008, 04:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by Buckaroo View Post
I don't want text at the bottom of the video. If Apple can do it and have a switch to turn it off and on as needed, fine.
I've never really understood what's so bad at having subtitles at the bottom of the video. If it's done well, it's not hard to ignore and even for someone who hears perfectly well, it's still useful if you have your volume turned down. I can understand if you didn't want to watch movies with subtitles turned on, but videos on Apple.com?

QuickTime does support text tracks that can be toggled on and off, but your attitude seems awfully selfish. You support helping the deaf, but only if you don't notice any difference? Should we get rid of the braille on things like elevator buttons and door placards because the little bumps everywhere bother you?
     
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Jul 5, 2008, 05:17 PM
 
Originally Posted by ibookuser2 View Post
QuickTime does support text tracks that can be toggled on and off, but your attitude seems awfully selfish. You support helping the deaf, but only if you don't notice any difference?
ibookuser2: Yes, I'm familiar with Quicktime's text track that can be toggled on and off. When it comes to Steve Jobs' Keynote or guided tour videos, there aren't any subtitles even though I enabled the Qucktime's closed captioned/Subtitles "ON". It still wont show up. Please take a look at this one(http://movielibrary.lynda.com/cc/index.asp). My point is that why can't Apple do the same thing? Simple as that.

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Jul 5, 2008, 05:43 PM
 
You have my support (and signature). Excluding ANYONE from Apple media is just plain dumb.

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Jul 5, 2008, 07:47 PM
 
Originally Posted by ibookuser2 View Post
Should we get rid of the braille on things like elevator buttons and door placards because the little bumps everywhere bother you?
No, we should get rid of them because 95% of them are incredibly stupid.

E.g., having toilets in public buildings labeled with braille.

Do we really expect a blind person to touch and feel the WHOLE corridor and all walls before finding this 1 x 3" braille plate ?

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Jul 5, 2008, 08:00 PM
 
The one that disturbs me most is the drive up ATM at my bank with Braille.
     
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Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
The one that disturbs me most is the drive up ATM at my bank with Braille.
Yes, another excellent example of good intentions gone bad.

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Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
The one that disturbs me most is the drive up ATM at my bank with Braille.
I think Playboy in Braille would take the cake. I mean, all you can do is read the articles.

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I think Playboy in Braille would take the cake. I mean, all you can do is read the articles.
They have articles?
     
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I think Playboy in Braille would take the cake. I mean, all you can do is read the articles.
Oh man, just the first sentence would have been enough.

Why do you have to explain your perfect joke ?

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Originally Posted by Randman View Post
I think Playboy in Braille would take the cake. I mean, all you can do is read the articles.
I suppose they could add bumps to the pictures. Squishy ones would even be better. hehehehe
     
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Jul 6, 2008, 11:48 PM
 
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OWhy do you have to explain your perfect joke ?
Not a joke. Playboy is available in Braille. Has for years.

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Not a joke. Playboy is available in Braille. Has for years.
Only in Amaraca. And it was funded by the Library of Congress.

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It was conversational.

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Originally Posted by ibookuser2 View Post
I've never really understood what's so bad at having subtitles at the bottom of the video. If it's done well, it's not hard to ignore and even for someone who hears perfectly well, it's still useful if you have your volume turned down. I can understand if you didn't want to watch movies with subtitles turned on, but videos on Apple.com?

QuickTime does support text tracks that can be toggled on and off, but your attitude seems awfully selfish. You support helping the deaf, but only if you don't notice any difference? Should we get rid of the braille on things like elevator buttons and door placards because the little bumps everywhere bother you?
I'm not sure I like you.
     
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Jul 7, 2008, 08:47 AM
 
Guys,
I noticed that this thread have been visited over 400 times while the numbers of petition went up to 180's. It would be nice to have each of you to sign up the petition to show your support to deaf mac users community. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Matt OS X View Post
Guys,
I noticed that this thread have been visited over 400 times while the numbers of petition went up to 180's. It would be nice to have each of you to sign up the petition to show your support to deaf mac users community. Thanks.
There is a difference between UNIQUE visits and visits.

Do you want me to sign twice ?

I have been to this thread at least 5 times.

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Originally Posted by Matt OS X View Post
I noticed that this thread have been visited over 400 times while the numbers of petition went up to 180's.
Maybe not everyone agrees its a good idea? I'm sure there's folks out there who read this thread but have not signed the petition because they choose not too - they just hadn't posted here that they didn't sign it.
     
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Jul 7, 2008, 01:48 PM
 
Has an online petition ever amounted to anything (other than assemble a big old list of names and emails)?
     
   
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