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10/25 build of Chimera a big step forward...
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Oct 26, 2002, 11:47 AM
 
It seems to have squashed some long-standing page rendering problems. Notably, it now displays ESPN.com properly, which it never has before. The problem of page elements overlapping onto the tabs and menu bar after scrolling seems to have lessened substantially. And it seems to crash a lot less. Most of the builds for the last few weeks have failed my 10 minute rule (if it crashes inside of 10 minutes of use, I go back to the .5 release).

I still wonder when Chimera's going to hit 1.0. At this pace, we're still a long way away. I personally hope for a focus on performance and stability. I really don't need that many more preferences or features. Keep it simple and speedy.

Main point is great work by the development team. Thanks!
     
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Oct 26, 2002, 12:17 PM
 
Thanks for posting reports on the development. I am using the .5 release, bit of a coward don't dare to do the nightlies, and I am waiting with excitement (like in jumping up and down, but sort of in a paced manner) for the next release.

and on this issue I know I have the people behind me. Far, far behind me
     
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Oct 26, 2002, 03:02 PM
 
Its great, now I can do all my fantasy football stuff in Chimera instead of launching IE. Shweeet!
(btw, is fantasy football a nerdy thing?) I just started.

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Oct 26, 2002, 03:53 PM
 
You'll want to update to the 10/26 build. There is a mistake in the Flash animation timer in the 10/25 build. Animations update every 120 seconds instead of every 1/60 of a second.
     
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Oct 26, 2002, 04:01 PM
 
A big bug I found in Chimera that happens consistantly is, have a Chimera page open in the background, have a Finder window open on top of it, now trying to copy a file that is in that Finder window to the desktop using the option drag method. If it goes near the Chimera window in the background BOOM Chimera crashes. Omniweb used to do this as well.
     
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Oct 26, 2002, 04:15 PM
 
Originally posted by swiz:

(btw, is fantasy football a nerdy thing?) I just started.
No way. You shoulda joined the MacNN Fantasy League I started a few months back. We have a good time.

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Oct 26, 2002, 04:24 PM
 
Originally posted by Justin W. Williams:


No way. You shoulda joined the MacNN Fantasy League I started a few months back. We have a good time.

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Dammit!! Didnt even know there was one. Im there next year.

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Oct 26, 2002, 04:55 PM
 
The menus at fidelity.com work correctly now as well - looking very good.

What happened to the video with RealPlayer? Audio comes across fine, but the video component is now missing.
     
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Oct 26, 2002, 05:55 PM
 
Yes, I noticed the RealPlayer loss if video as well.
     
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Oct 26, 2002, 11:42 PM
 
Is it just me, or is history enabled in the 10-26 build? I never noticed this before.
     
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Oct 27, 2002, 05:39 PM
 
Originally posted by Crazy69:
Is it just me, or is history enabled in the 10-26 build? I never noticed this before.
Where did you notice the history? I couldn't find a history to sort through previously visited pages...
     
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Oct 28, 2002, 05:56 PM
 
I was hoping someone had that download link in here
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Oct 28, 2002, 06:00 PM
 
For people like me that come into this thread-
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Oct 28, 2002, 11:26 PM
 
The only aspect of history that I could find is in the prefrences where you can choose how long you want the history to remain, a button to erase the history, and in the address bar, where the address auto completes to a previously visited site(s). I'm sure (I hope) a way of accessing the history will come in a future build.
     
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Oct 28, 2002, 11:43 PM
 
Originally posted by KidRed:
For people like me that come into this thread...
Anyone too lazy to find the URL may also be interested in my script for automatically downloading the latest build each night. I'll post the code if anyone would like, I don't want to clutter the forum otherwise
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Oct 29, 2002, 01:13 AM
 
Originally posted by Mactoid:
Anyone too lazy to find the URL may also be interested in my script for automatically downloading the latest build each night. I'll post the code if anyone would like, I don't want to clutter the forum otherwise
Or you can use chimeraknight!
     
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Oct 29, 2002, 01:59 AM
 
The 10-28 build (that's today's) ROCKS!!

The most stable Chimera yet, fast and pretty. Wow!

Storage of passwords in the keychain finally makes use of this great system-wide resource.

For basic web browsing it has everything I need for a 1.0 release. No featuritis, please.

However, I would like to see:

1) Use of system spell checker for forms.
2) Ability to configure automatic proxies for access to my University's subscription to scientific journals.
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Oct 29, 2002, 05:23 AM
 
Keychain passwords and browser history have both been available for a long time. History, though, was previously toggled by a line in the preference file, not in the GUI.

Oh, and text entry still sucks ass compared to ANY other Mac OS X app. Somehow I suspect that this is one thing that will *never* be fixed.
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Oct 29, 2002, 12:47 PM
 
Originally posted by swiz:
Its great, now I can do all my fantasy football stuff in Chimera instead of launching IE. Shweeet!
(btw, is fantasy football a nerdy thing?) I just started.
Sorry. Fantasy football is about the nerdiest thing I have ever heard of! Then again I love D&D.....
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Oct 29, 2002, 01:42 PM
 
Originally posted by moss514:


Sorry. Fantasy football is about the nerdiest thing I have ever heard of! Then again I love D&D.....
A D&D guy said some other pastime is dorky?
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Oct 29, 2002, 02:46 PM
 
Can someone explain how the updated nightly builds work? For instance, after downloading the latest build, does it "replace" my existing build (which happens to be the stable 0.5)?

Do I need to drag anything to the trash? Will I need to re-import all my bookmarks and re-set all my preferences?

Thanks ahead of time for the explanations
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Oct 29, 2002, 04:03 PM
 
Originally posted by starfleetX:
Keychain passwords and browser history have both been available for a long time. History, though, was previously toggled by a line in the preference file, not in the GUI.

Oh, and text entry still sucks ass compared to ANY other Mac OS X app. Somehow I suspect that this is one thing that will *never* be fixed.
yeah but the history is still browser window dependent, right? you lose your history in the gui if you close the window.
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Oct 29, 2002, 05:26 PM
 
Nice

I just discovered that you can now select the address in the "Location bar" by single clicking the 'Favicon' to the left of the address.
     
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Oct 30, 2002, 02:17 AM
 
Originally posted by Buck_W:
Can someone explain how the updated nightly builds work? For instance, after downloading the latest build, does it "replace" my existing build (which happens to be the stable 0.5)?

Do I need to drag anything to the trash? Will I need to re-import all my bookmarks and re-set all my preferences?

Thanks ahead of time for the explanations
simply put:

downloading a "nightly" build is just like downloading any other build.

You download, you get a new version of the application.

If you replace the old version of the application, the old one is gone and the new one has replaced it (exactly like copying any identically named files in the finder into the same folder).

Your bookmarks are stored in a preference file which is not inside the application itself and therefore remain despite changing versions.

Same with preferences.

There might (in general) be issues when the form of the preference file and/or bookmark file is changed in a major release (this happened in OW's development) but there usually will be some warning about this. If you're truly worried, you're not cut out to be on the bleeding edge and should just wait for major versions to be released (or stick to IE until Chimera 1.0 comes out).
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Oct 30, 2002, 06:03 AM
 
Pheonix just reached .4 today...it's progressing so fast...how come it seems to be progressing much faster than Chimera? I'm not complaining as I am suprised how fast chimera is progressing...but just curious...also I believe Dave Hyatt is contributing to Pheonix...is he still contributing to Chimera?
     
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Oct 30, 2002, 02:34 PM
 
Link to pheonix?
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Oct 30, 2002, 05:57 PM
 
How long has Chimera had 'Bookmark all tabs'? Geez...this is the most amazing thing ever. I got my Mac news in one bookmark...this open 5 of my favorite Mac news sites in seperate tabs. Same with my Mac games news, etc...

Furkin' amazing!
     
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Oct 30, 2002, 06:00 PM
 
Originally posted by KidRed:
Link to pheonix?

http://www.kmgerich.com/misc.html
     
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Oct 30, 2002, 06:31 PM
 
Originally posted by Guy Incognito:
How long has Chimera had 'Bookmark all tabs'? Geez...this is the most amazing thing ever. I got my Mac news in one bookmark...this open 5 of my favorite Mac news sites in seperate tabs. Same with my Mac games news, etc...

Furkin' amazing!
Don't know about chimera, but it's been a part of mozilla for many versions. Indeed a nifty feature.
     
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Oct 31, 2002, 08:59 AM
 
Originally posted by moss514:


Sorry. Fantasy football is about the nerdiest thing I have ever heard of! Then again I love D&D.....
Rolemaster is much better.
     
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Oct 31, 2002, 10:12 AM
 
Does anyone notice that the text is much crisper on the most recent nightly build (10-30)?
     
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Oct 31, 2002, 11:00 AM
 
Originally posted by starfleetX:
Oh, and text entry still sucks ass compared to ANY other Mac OS X app. Somehow I suspect that this is one thing that will *never* be fixed.
It may be fixed eventually, but it will be a long time in coming. The problem comes from the way form controls are implemented in the Gecko engine currently. Gecko's text fields do offer a lot of flexibility that just isn't in any of the Mac-native text fields. However, they need a lot of work if they're ever going to get to the point where they approach native textfields in functionality. It's one of the weakest areas of Gecko on the Mac, at the moment.
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Oct 31, 2002, 11:14 AM
 
Can someone explain where is the bookmark file in Chimera? I'm trying to use the same IE Favorites file.
     
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Oct 31, 2002, 01:39 PM
 
Originally posted by AKcrab:

Don't know about chimera, but it's been a part of mozilla for many versions. Indeed a nifty feature.
Where is the book-mark all tabs feature in Chimera??
     
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Oct 31, 2002, 07:02 PM
 
Originally posted by AU_student_iceBook:

Where is the book-mark all tabs feature in Chimera??
Go to Bookmarks -> Add Page to Bookmarks.
If you have multiple tabs in your window, there will be a checkbox which you can select to "Bookmark all tabs"
     
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Oct 31, 2002, 08:37 PM
 
Originally posted by gyc:


Go to Bookmarks -> Add Page to Bookmarks.
If you have multiple tabs in your window, there will be a checkbox which you can select to "Bookmark all tabs"
Thank you, That is just what I wanted to know!
     
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Nov 1, 2002, 09:26 PM
 
just wanted to let you guys know that the nov 1 build is by far the best yet...we must be days from 6.0

I have a question though...I just installed speedownload...and I let it install the plug-ins and I thought when I click a download link it should automatically download it in speeddownload but it does not any suggestions?
     
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Nov 1, 2002, 10:09 PM
 
Originally posted by xmacintosh:
Can someone explain where is the bookmark file in Chimera? I'm trying to use the same IE Favorites file.
The Chimera bookmark file is located at:
~/Library/Application Support/Chimera/Profiles/Default/xxxxx.slt/Bookmarks.xml

Note that the Chimera bookmarks are stored as an XML file, while IE stores its bookmarks as an HTML file. However, you can go to Bookmarks>Manage Bookmarks>Import Bookmarks... and import IE's bookmarks, which are located at:
~/Library/Preferences/Explorer/Favorites.html

Then, go into the bookmarks drawer and drag and drop the bookmarks to where you want them to be. Enjoy.
     
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Nov 1, 2002, 10:25 PM
 
wow...just have to say again I am really impressed with this build
     
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Nov 2, 2002, 01:10 PM
 
me too--the 11/1 build is f'n FAST. faster than my browsers in 9. woohooooo!
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Nov 4, 2002, 06:31 PM
 
I think 0.6 is on its way. This was posted on the tree this afternoon, the only checkins for several days now:



Checklist of things to do before releasing a new Chimera version:
- Update version number in project file
- Update version number in chimera.js
- Update version number in Credits.rtf
- Update version number in InfoPlist.strings
- Flip switch on Talkback server to enable wizard UI
- Check in new release notes
- Update automation to pick up new release notes
- Run a new automated build
- Tag the tree
- Move the build to releases/
- Flip the wizard UI switch back to off on the Talkback server
- Update version number in chimera.js to (N.n+)


Stabiltiy and speed seem to be very good on the latest couple nightlies. Maybe after this release we'll start to see interface improvements.
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