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Originally Posted by MacinTommy View Post
Exactly! And less than half the price!
That depends on whether or not the carrier is unionized

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I just had a revelation...

What if they call it...

Wait for it... wait for it...

the...

iBook

It sounds stupid at first, but maybe it all makes sense. Maybe they dumped the iBook name years ago so they could have it for something like this. A product that fits the name better then a laptop does.

They could even say that it's a reinvention of the old iBook. A lower end and more affordable (and approachable) portable computer to squeek in under the MacBook.

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I still prefer iCoffeeTable.
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Jan 26, 2010, 04:21 PM
 
Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
I just had a revelation...

What if they call it...

Wait for it... wait for it...

the...

iBook

It sounds stupid at first, but maybe it all makes sense. Maybe they dumped the iBook name years ago so they could have it for something like this. A product that fits the name better then a laptop does.

They could even say that it's a reinvention of the old iBook. A lower end and more affordable (and approachable) portable computer to squeek in under the MacBook.
You just had that revelation? People have been floating that name for a week or two now (not that I feel like digging around for the source). I can see the appeal, but I hope they don’t use it. There were a lot of great iBook models and I think the name deserves to not be diluted.

Has Apple reused any of its trademarks, other than “SuperDrive” (first, high-density 3.5-inch floppy drives; later, DVD burners)?
     
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Jan 26, 2010, 04:38 PM
 
I hadn't heard it.

However... if it happens, I'm still taking credit for it.

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I hadn't heard it.
Neither did I, and I browse most of the usual tech sites.
     
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Jan 26, 2010, 04:54 PM
 
I think they should call it iBook. I have been saying that all along. But they probably don't want people to think of it as just an eReader, so maybe they will drop the book for something else.

Another candidate is iPad. They would not call it iSlate. That just sounds horrible.

iPad has grounding. First, remember the Newton MessagePad? Well, they could modernize MessagePad > iPad. That makes sense. Second, iPad is more of a robust name, it implies a device capable of many things, not just reading a book.

My bet is for iPad.
     
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"iPad, the latest in feminine products."
     
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Jan 26, 2010, 05:35 PM
 
I haven't heard the iBook moniker floated around before, but I'm not so sure it would adequately describe the product.

Nobody associates video and audio with books.
iBook just sounds like another e-reader.

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Jan 26, 2010, 05:47 PM
 
iDon't know what it will be called. But i'm sure it will be something we haven't thought of.
     
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Jan 26, 2010, 05:48 PM
 
I suppose I'd put the odds at 40/60 it will have an "i" moniker.
     
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Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
I hadn't heard it.

However... if it happens, I'm still taking credit for it.
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Jan 27, 2010, 12:19 AM
 
I like canvas but it doesn't make sense to associate Books and TV with a word like that. Prob going to be some painful iSomething name.
     
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Jan 27, 2010, 02:09 AM
 
I don't think they've made a new iName since iPhone. Don't know if that means they're finally getting sick of them too, or if they're reserved for really big things.
     
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Originally Posted by slugslugslug View Post
I don't think they've made a new iName since iPhone. Don't know if that means they're finally getting sick of them too, or if they're reserved for really big things.
That's exactly what people were saying right before the iPhone.
     
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Jan 27, 2010, 11:27 AM
 
So. Another aspect to this competition is which bit of gear that you wanted but didn't quite get around to getting will Apple drop off their menu today?
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Jan 27, 2010, 12:19 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
That's exactly what people were saying right before the iPhone.
“iPhone” actually sounds good, though. Unlike any of the iNames I’ve heard floated for this thing. Of course, like I’ve probably said a zillion times in these forums, I used to hate the sound of “MacBook [Pro]”, and it doesn’t bother me anymore.

At any rate, I think “iWork” was the last new iName before “iPhone”, and that appeared in 2005. If so, they’ve slowed down more since then: 3 years without a new iName. And again, that could go with either theory: they’re getting bored with them, or they’re just saving them for the important products to avoid dilution.
     
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Originally Posted by slugslugslug View Post
“iPhone” actually sounds good, though. Unlike any of the iNames I’ve heard floated for this thing. Of course, like I’ve probably said a zillion times in these forums, I used to hate the sound of “MacBook [Pro]”, and it doesn’t bother me anymore.

At any rate, I think “iWork” was the last new iName before “iPhone”, and that appeared in 2005. If so, they’ve slowed down more since then: 3 years without a new iName. And again, that could go with either theory: they’re getting bored with them, or they’re just saving them for the important products to avoid dilution.
I'm with you on the MacBook name.

But regarding actual hardware, what was the last thing to get the "i" moniker before the iPhone?
     
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Originally Posted by slugslugslug View Post
“iPhone” actually sounds good, though. Unlike any of the iNames I’ve heard floated for this thing. Of course, like I’ve probably said a zillion times in these forums, I used to hate the sound of “MacBook [Pro]”, and it doesn’t bother me anymore.

At any rate, I think “iWork” was the last new iName before “iPhone”, and that appeared in 2005. If so, they’ve slowed down more since then: 3 years without a new iName. And again, that could go with either theory: they’re getting bored with them, or they’re just saving them for the important products to avoid dilution.
iAgree.

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Jan 27, 2010, 12:22 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I'm with you on the MacBook name.

But regarding actual hardware, what was the last thing to get the "i" moniker before the iPhone?
Probably iSight?
     
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I'm with you on the MacBook name.

But regarding actual hardware, what was the last thing to get the "i" moniker before the iPhone?
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Probably iSight?
That was my best guess.
     
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But regarding actual hardware, what was the last thing to get the "i" moniker before the iPhone?
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That was just the prototype name, later replaced by iDunno.

Speaking of which, wasn't the most recent "i" name iTV, before it got changed to AppleTV?
     
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Jan 27, 2010, 12:45 PM
 
Obviously this isn't real but it's well done and disturbingly what would be the most givingist away part if it was real is the terrible Apple grammar mangling at the end. Remember the funnest iPod ever?

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Hardware is ok but rather disappointed with the OS.

The home button and top power button also bother me.
     
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My guess...

More of a big iPod Touch then a small Macbook. 10 inch OLED screen. Almost no bezel. Black. Will feature a media store similar to the app store, where you can subscribe to newspapers and magazines on the go, downloaded from AT&T in a similar way to how the Kindle works. Media will feature a unique interface system that is more interactive. Click here to open a graph, click here to see video... etc... similar to a webpage, but less HTMLey and more seamless.

Wirelessly stream video from a computer or Apple TV. Can run any iPhone app. New apps can take advantage of the bigger screen. New focus on portable games.

64 or 128 gigs of built in memory. No camera. 7 hours of battery life. Can be paired with an AT&T contract to get 3G on the go. Can be paired with a bluetooth keyboard that will be sold separately. No USB ports. Only connectivity is through a standard iPod dock connector. Will have a built-in pull out stand so you can set it on a desk and watch movies.

$700 for 64, $900 for 128

I think this is a pretty "safe" guess.
I didn't do that bad.

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The ipad has been out for a few years.

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I was wrong about the price, anyway. A lot cheaper than I thought. However, I figured it'd just be an extra big iPod.
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I was big-time wrong about the all-touch case w/typing on the back. But that was a long shot.
     
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I didn't do that bad.
I dunno looks like 50/50 to me.
"10 inch OLED screen. Almost no bezel. Black"

I didn't do so great either. I dream about the future technologies too much
Or at least I don't take cost into account.
     
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Jan 27, 2010, 05:18 PM
 
The rest of my prediction post is way too long for me to bother with right now. Someone wanna go over that for me, give it a grade?
     
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I was big-time wrong about the all-touch case w/typing on the back. But that was a long shot.
I knew touch case/back was out for sure as people love to put their phones in cases.
     
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I was right on many accounts and wrong on a few others. I said polycarbonate, it has aluminum. I got the name right. The price point close for the top model. The screen close. The screen correct. The battery life real-life is probably spot on 6 hours. 3G correct. Bluetooth/wifi correct. Rounded back correct. Custom multi-touch interface correct. Camera wrong.

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I just reread mine and I did fairly decently. I was really trying to wish the all-over multitouch into existence. And I meant Home button, not power button, on the front like the iPhone.

I don’t think anyone would have guessed at 6 separate SKUs. 2 storage capacities at launch seemed so obvious.

I’m pretty shocked by the availability of a keyboard dock & BT keyboard support. I bolded my “no external keyboard” prediction, so I must’ve been pretty sure about that. I think it went hand in hand with the expectation that they’d come up with a text input method that was drastically different from enlarged iPhone keyboard. If text input had been revolutionary, they might have prevented hardware keyboards for a while, to send the message, “Trust us, you’ll get used to this”. I hope some of the big name reviewers get to try these out for a few days soon, to let us know how the keyboard goes.
     
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My prediction is that Apple will tout it as cheaper than buying all the devices it can replace.
Touting it didn't. Wrong. -1

It will have a "high" price, but it will be a bargain compared to the alternatives.
Not sure where to put this prediction. I'll call it a draw because it is cheap and expensive (especially the 3G 64GB plus data plan). +0

Netbook (surf and Email): $300
PSP (games): $150
Kindle Dx (eReader): $480
iPod (music and video): $150

That's $1080 right there. If Apple targets $599 as a price point, you save $480.
Although i didn't expect an iPod Touch XL, the last part was correct (the prices). +1

In addition, it will likely be capable of things we don't even know we need to do or never thought we needed a device that could do it. The problem is my brain cannot comprehend what that will be or how it will be done. It could possibly offer up a way of doing something so easy that we can no longer live without it.
iWork was kind of expected, but there was no surprising or killer app. I think most can live without it. Split. +0

1 Right, 2 Split, 1 Wrong. So really 50%. Likely no better than the typical pundit.

I feel like Eric Cartman in that I want to just freeze myself until it comes out. I'm tired of waiting and tired of the c*ck-teasing rumors that have no substantiation.
At least it's over... for now.

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I'd have to say I'm HIGHLY disappointed that my predictions (42 inch, comes with a personal human tripod) is not true. So who had the closest prediction?
     
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Ugh. Mine should be patently generic.

10.7" touchscreen.
Nope. 9.7" -1

Enhanced iPhone OS (probably more similar to the already rumored OS 4 than 3)
Nope. -1

Brushed aluminum back like the new MacBooks
It is Aluminum. +1

Possibly some kind of new enhanced Front Row like app for viewing your media and purchasing/streaming new/external content
Nope -1

Kindle-like abilities with new features for magazine and newspaper subscriptions
iBooks store. Details unknown. +1

Something artistic app (duh) regarding painting/drawing via touchscreen
Not really anything other than existing apps. -1

No webcam
Yup. +1

No stylus
Yup. +1

4-5 hours of battery life.
Nope. 10 hours. -1

$999
Nope. $499 to $829. Average $664. -1

Storage: 64 GB SSD
No SSD, but 64GB option. Yup. +1

Wireless N
Yup. +1

I'm really hesitant to predict a Verizon / 3G pairing here. It just seems too far-fetched at the moment. Maybe after the summer
No verizon, but 3G through AT&T. Split. +0

Ports: Tough call. I'm hesitant to think this will dock like an iPod. I'll call wireless sync and one USB port (yes only one, to keep battery drain down).
Nope. iPod dock, no USB except through dongle. -1

Right: 6, Wrong: 7, Split: 1.
46%, but the USB can be argued depending on one's logic.

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10" LCD, not OLED, PA Semi low power dual core ARM, 64 or 128GB flash memory, Wifi, 3G. Unibody casing, styled like half an MBP with glass to the edges. No ports except for a 3.5mm jack, and a dock port similar to an iPhone to handle power, video out and USB. iPhone OS based, not desktop OS X, much usage of Coverflow and Stack like popup icon grids in the UI. Priced between an iPod touch 64GB and a white Macbook 2.26GHz, lets say £600/$800.
Yay..
10" LCD, not OLED (10" if you round up ), Wifi, 3G, Unibody like half an MPB, no ports except 3.5mm and dock, iPhone OS, £600/$800

Half right..
Not a dual core (AFAIK)
Do the popup menus in the standard apps count as stack icon popups?

Nah..
128GB, and I didn't see much coverflow except for the stores.

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Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
My guess...

More of a big iPod Touch then a small Macbook.
Yup. +1

10 inch OLED screen.
Rounding 9.7" up, Yes. Screen is not OLED Split: +0

Almost no bezel.
Nope. Bezel is huge! -1

Black.
From the front, yes. From the back, no. Split. +0

Will feature a media store similar to the app store, where you can subscribe to newspapers and magazines on the go, downloaded from AT&T in a similar way to how the Kindle works.
Note sure where to put this. No media store, One can likely buy or subscribe to media, but it wasn't announced. The "on the go" part is possible through 3G and it definitely is similar to Kindle. Hedging to No. -1

Media will feature a unique interface system that is more interactive. Click here to open a graph, click here to see video... etc... similar to a webpage, but less HTMLey and more seamless.
Doesn't seem like it. -1

Wirelessly stream video from a computer or Apple TV.
No. -1

Can run any iPhone app.
Yes. +1

New apps can take advantage of the bigger screen.
Yes. +1

New focus on portable games.
No "focus" was stated. Hedging No. -1

64 or 128 gigs of built in memory.
64GB, yes. 128GB, no. Split. +0

No camera.
Yes. +1

7 hours of battery life.
No, 10 hours. -1

Can be paired with an AT&T contract to get 3G on the go.
Yes. +1

Can be paired with a bluetooth keyboard that will be sold separately.
Has a keyboard dock sold separately. BT KB pairing unknown, so a split: +0

No USB ports.
Yes +1

Only connectivity is through a standard iPod dock connector.
Yes. +1

Will have a built-in pull out stand so you can set it on a desk and watch movies.
Built in, No. Sold separately as a case. -1

$700 for 64, $900 for 128
$699 for 64GB Wi-Fi. Yes. +1 No 128GB option. -1

Right: 8, Wrong: 8 , Split: 3
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Originally Posted by Eriamjh View Post
Right: 6, Wrong: 7, Split: 1.
46%, but the USB can be argued depending on one's logic.
I have to disagree with your marking the "enhanced iPhone OS" as wrong. That's all the damn thing is.

Otherwise, under your grading I did slightly better than I thought.
     
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Not a dual core (AFAIK)
Word is it's Cortex-A9 MPCore based just like Tegra 2, so at least dual core and possibly quad core.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I have to disagree with your marking the "enhanced iPhone OS" as wrong. That's all the damn thing is.

Otherwise, under your grading I did slightly better than I thought.
Based on what I saw in the keynote, I find nothing enhanced about the OS at all. The rest of it is just updated bundled apps. Even Apple only bumped the OS number from 3.1.2 to 3.2 which was required anyway to support the new hardware.

OS4, whenever it comes out, will likely be enhanced.

I should have put more specs down, but I suspect that i would have ended up near the 50% range anyway. I was surprised it had no camera.

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