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Oct 31, 2006, 04:02 PM
 
Well, it seems John Kerry is sticking his foot in his mouth yet again. In a way reminiscent of his criticism of the US military post-Vietnam, Kerry ushers forth another blunder.

"get your education or be stuck in Iraq".



Someone please tell me what he meant because the University audience he was speaking to fell dismally silent. If it was a joke, apparently none of them got it either.
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Oct 31, 2006, 04:09 PM
 
And he purposely deficates on the soldiers yet again.


What a stupid, stupid man.


And 49% of the populace actually voted for this idiot.
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Oct 31, 2006, 04:11 PM
 
Originally Posted by Mark Larr View Post
And he purposely deficates on the soldiers yet again.


What a stupid, stupid man.


And 49% of the populace actually voted for this idiot.
It's not funny, but so true.
     
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Oct 31, 2006, 04:36 PM
 
Methinks he's trying to imply there will be a military draft instituted and that anyone who isn't matriculating will be subject to induction.

It could be a bit of election season scaremongering on HIS part or it could be he is giving the students a 'heads-up' on something that should be confidential or maybe even just scuttlebutt.

It will probably escape the attention of the MSM, but kudos to you, ebuddy, for picking up on the fact that it was noteworthy! Oftentimes we know something is amiss but only later do we realize exactly why or what.

     
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Oct 31, 2006, 04:56 PM
 
Conservatives: "People who disagree with me are evil."
Liberals: "People who disagree with me are uneducated."

One side abuses morality while the other side abuses epistemology, but both sides are abusive.
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Oct 31, 2006, 04:57 PM
 
Originally Posted by Mark Larr View Post
And 49% of the populace actually voted for this idiot.
And the other idiot won.

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
     
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Originally Posted by marden View Post
Methinks he's trying to imply there will be a military draft instituted and that anyone who isn't matriculating will be subject to induction.
Quite possible. Prominent Democrats have been scaremongering about an allegedly inevitable draft for years now, and yet not only has a draft failed to materialized, but the Bush Administration has been quite adamant about not instituting one. It's one of the few things I'm still willing to give Bush credit for.

It's funny: The DNC is quick to accuse Republicans of fear-based politics, and to some extent they're even right about that, but then they deftly avoid the question of their own scaremongering.
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Oct 31, 2006, 05:00 PM
 
I saw this but interpreted it as a bad joke about Bush.

Wouldn't surprise me if that was the message, Bush bashing seems to be all the Angelides campaign is capable of.
     
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Oct 31, 2006, 05:05 PM
 
Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
And the other idiot won.

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
You fool! Don't you see that Kang was the only good choice!
     
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Oct 31, 2006, 05:15 PM
 
hehe, also the giant douche and turd sandwich episode of South park comes to mind.

I'm not saying I agree with Kerry, I voted for him, but he was an awful candidate, just like bush (IMO)
     
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Oct 31, 2006, 05:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by itai195 View Post
I saw this but interpreted it as a bad joke about Bush.

Wouldn't surprise me if that was the message, Bush bashing seems to be all the Angelides campaign is capable of.
It was a bad joke about Bush and had nothing to do with the troops.

The Blog | Taylor Marsh: Kerry's Mangled Statement a Distraction --updated-- | The Huffington Post
     
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Originally Posted by Millennium View Post
Conservatives: "People who disagree with me are evil."
Liberals: "People who disagree with me are uneducated."

One side abuses morality while the other side abuses epistemology, but both sides are abusive.
Wow...I never thought of it that way before.
     
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Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
hehe, also the giant douche and turd sandwich episode of South park comes to mind.
Heh, I forgot about that. Too true.
     
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Oct 31, 2006, 05:49 PM
 
Originally Posted by BlueSky View Post
It was a bad joke about Bush and had nothing to do with the troops.

The Blog | Taylor Marsh: Kerry's Mangled Statement a Distraction --updated-- | The Huffington Post

How could it possibly be about Bush??? Bush graduated from Harvard. Can't be about Ivy League school graduates either, he graduated from Yale. Can't be about sending troops to war, Kerry supported the action. Before he opposed the action, and now is supporting sending more troops there right?

Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually lazy? Behind the podium of a University Hall botching jokes (if that is in fact what he's doing. After all, this wouldn't be the first time he's thrown around a blanket indictment about the military) before a stunned and silent audience of people who want so badly to support you.
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Oct 31, 2006, 05:51 PM
 
Bush and Kerry are not good at being politicians. I do not like them.
     
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Originally Posted by Millennium View Post
Conservatives: "People who disagree with me are evil."
Liberals: "People who disagree with me are uneducated."

One side abuses morality while the other side abuses epistemology, but both sides are abusive.
True that.

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Bush and Kerry are not good at being politicians. I do not like them.
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Oct 31, 2006, 06:03 PM
 
Originally Posted by BlueSky View Post
It was a bad joke about Bush and had nothing to do with the troops.

The Blog | Taylor Marsh: Kerry's Mangled Statement a Distraction --updated-- | The Huffington Post
Ahhhh! I was wrong, maybe. He's just being elitist and condescending and insulting to the people who understand the importance of fighting for America and opposing a world wide cancer who enlisted their services to our great nation and the ideals it stands for.

What a dik!

     
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Originally Posted by ebuddy View Post
Bush graduated from Harvard. Can't be about Ivy League school graduates either, he graduated from Yale. .
Dude, last time I checked, both were Ivy's.

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Oct 31, 2006, 06:12 PM
 
Originally Posted by what_the_heck View Post
Dude, last time I checked, both were Ivy's.

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Dude, ebuddy posted the Harvard (MBA) then checked his sources and found there was also a Yale undergrad degree and added that to the post in a hurry.

Give a guy a break! Jeez!
     
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Originally Posted by marden View Post
Give a guy a break! Jeez!
Why ? Just pointed out that his post implicated otherwise.

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Oct 31, 2006, 06:27 PM
 
Originally Posted by what_the_heck View Post
Why ? Just pointed out that his post implicated otherwise.

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Ok, I admit I was just trying to use your post to show off my guess at how ebuddy came to post that the way you saw it.

I think I'm correct, though.

We'll wait and ask ebuddy to confirm.
     
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Oct 31, 2006, 06:37 PM
 
Originally Posted by ebuddy View Post
How could it possibly be about Bush??? Bush graduated from Harvard. Can't be about Ivy League school graduates either, he graduated from Yale. Can't be about sending troops to war, Kerry supported the action. Before he opposed the action, and now is supporting sending more troops there right?
Are you operating under the assumption that one has to be smart and work hard to graduate from Ivy League schools?
     
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Are you operating under the assumption that one has to be smart and work hard to graduate from Ivy League schools?
I am. There must be some combination of the two.
     
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Originally Posted by itai195 View Post
Are you operating under the assumption that one has to be smart and work hard to graduate from Ivy League schools?
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I am. There must be some combination of the two.
Marden is right. Money and fame will buy your way IN to the Ivy League, but not out.
That's what my wife tells me. She used to work at one Ivy's admissions office.

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And the other idiot won.

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
????

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Oct 31, 2006, 06:49 PM
 
OK, now it's funny. Bush is in Somewhere, Somewhere giving a speech and dry-humping this strawman for all it's worth. That's all that's going to be heard as the election comes up, not Kerry's press conference clarifying what he meant.

Honestly, it's funny. I give up. Long live Rove. Praise the Lord and pass the horseshît, black is white, up is down, pass the kool-aid, I'm down homey, I'm down!
     
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Originally Posted by what_the_heck View Post
Marden is right. Money and fame will buy your way IN to the Ivy League, but not out.
That's what my wife tells me. She used to work at one Ivy's admissions office.

-t
I can't argue with her experience, but I've heard other opinions.

Is it really hard to believe that Kerry was joking about Bush's intelligence? He wouldn't be the first.
     
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Oct 31, 2006, 06:54 PM
 
bush/republicans are too dumb to know that it was a stab at bush.

anyone volunteering to go to iraq is dumb. without a draft, u can only get the bottom of the barrel
     
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Originally Posted by ironknee View Post
bush/republicans are too dumb to know that it was a stab at bush.

anyone volunteering to go to iraq is dumb. without a draft, u can only get the bottom of the barrel
The military can be an extremely positive experience for a person. It's not "the bottom of the barrel". You want to see that, look at the 40 year old working for McDonalds.
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Sam I am. I will not vote for Green Eggs and Ham!

I will not vote for them in a boat. I will not vote for them while I'm in a moat... because they aren't very good. Sam I am. Peace out.
     
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OK, now it's funny. Bush is in Somewhere, Somewhere giving a speech and dry-humping this strawman for all it's worth. That's all that's going to be heard as the election comes up, not Kerry's press conference clarifying what he meant.

Honestly, it's funny. I give up. Long live Rove. Praise the Lord and pass the horseshît, black is white, up is down, pass the kool-aid, I'm down homey, I'm down!

Number of Republican erections in here after reading your post: 69
     
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Oct 31, 2006, 07:39 PM
 
Why are any of you trying to defend this elitist turd Kerry? He's a douche-bag.
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Originally Posted by smacintush View Post
Why are any of you trying to defend this elitist turd Kerry? He's a douche-bag.

The same reason why some defended Mark Foley, Michael Brown, etc... The word "partisan" is in the solution to this problem
     
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No one to my knowledge defended Mark Foley. Least of all in the MacNN forums.
     
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The same reason why some defended Mark Foley, Michael Brown, etc... The word "partisan" is in the solution to this problem
Hm. Or maybe some people are tired of bs. I think it's pretty obvious what Kerry meant to say. That said, if he can't even articulate his crappy joke accurately, he really shouldn't be out there representing his party in front of the public.
     
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Originally Posted by Millennium View Post
Conservatives: "People who disagree with me are evil."
Liberals: "People who disagree with me are uneducated."

One side abuses morality while the other side abuses epistemology, but both sides are abusive.

Originally Posted by ironknee View Post
bush/republicans are too dumb to know that it was a stab at bush.

anyone volunteering to go to iraq is dumb. without a draft, u can only get the bottom of the barrel



Wow. Just wow.
     
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I for one will be voting for Republicans in this coming election because of this outrageous statement by Kerry and the mainstream media giving it wall-to-wall coverage.
     
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I for one will be voting for Republicans in this coming election because of this outrageous statement by Kerry and the mainstream media giving it wall-to-wall coverage.
What a coincidence, I am voting a straight Dem ticket this year because CNN did a poll finding that Rush Limbaugh only has a 26% favorability rating.
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Originally Posted by smacintush View Post
Why are any of you trying to defend this elitist turd Kerry? He's a douche-bag.
I thought he was the turd sandwich?
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Originally Posted by Millennium View Post
Conservatives: "People who disagree with me are evil."
Liberals: "People who disagree with me are uneducated."

One side abuses morality while the other side abuses epistemology, but both sides are abusive.
While that may be painting with an overly broad brush in my opinion, I LOVE the observation.

     
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You guys are dumb if you think that I'm abusive.
     
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Originally Posted by BRussell View Post
I for one will be voting for Republicans in this coming election because of this outrageous statement by Kerry and the mainstream media giving it wall-to-wall coverage.
That's stupid. I will vote for Republicans because President Bush looks good with pumpkins.
     
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You guys are dumb if you think that I'm abusive.
No, you're not abusive, you're just misguided.

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No, you're not abusive, you're just misguided.

Okay Mard....


Oh.. wait......
     
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Originally Posted by BlueSky View Post
OK, now it's funny. Bush is in Somewhere, Somewhere giving a speech and dry-humping this strawman for all it's worth. That's all that's going to be heard as the election comes up, not Kerry's press conference clarifying what he meant.

Honestly, it's funny. I give up. Long live Rove. Praise the Lord and pass the horseshît, black is white, up is down, pass the kool-aid, I'm down homey, I'm down!
Funny line!

Another one on NBC Nightly News, someone is reported to have said that Kerry lost the 2004 election and now he's determined to lose the 2006 election!

I LOL'ed! A LO(L)T
     
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Originally Posted by itai195 View Post
I can't argue with her experience, but I've heard other opinions.

Is it really hard to believe that Kerry was joking about Bush's intelligence? He wouldn't be the first.
When the ref makes a call in your favor you don't question their decision. Kerry's supposed to be smarter and better spoken than Bush but Bush has been sincere and honorable and has taken his lumps and risen above the BS to boldly lead this country and not give in to the "useful idiots."

Since the September 11, 2001 attacks, the term "useful idiot" has also been used by some commentators to describe individuals said to take a softer line against Islamism and terrorism. For example, Anthony Browne wrote in the United Kingdom newspaper, The Times:
"Elements within the British establishment were notoriously sympathetic to Hitler. Today the Islamists enjoy similar support. In the 1930s it was Edward VIII, aristocrats and the Daily Mail; this time it is left-wing activists, The Guardian and sections of the BBC. They may not want a global theocracy, but they are like the West’s apologists for the Soviet Union — useful idiots."
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Oct 31, 2006, 10:49 PM
 
If Kerry had some hot twin daughters I'd cut him some slack.

Nah, I lied.
     
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Originally Posted by ironknee View Post
bush/republicans are too dumb to know that it was a stab at bush.

anyone volunteering to go to iraq is dumb. without a draft, u can only get the bottom of the barrel
If you call helping to give the people there a chance for freedom such as you enjoy dumb, I think you are pretty twisted.

Anyone who calls themselves a caring, sensitive person who loves humanity and values America and freedom would support our being there to help prevent the EVIL ones from taking that away from the noble freedom fighters.

Anyone who calls themselves intelligent will recognize that the same forces that are willing to kill and wreak havoc and chaos in Iraq will not stop once they defeat the freedom fighters.

Anyone who wouldn't help others achieve the freedom we have is small and selfish.

Anyone who wouldn't fight to keep the wolves from their own door is suicidally dumb.
     
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Originally Posted by what_the_heck View Post
Dude, last time I checked, both were Ivy's.

-t
Yeah, that's why I said Kerry couldn't be talking against Ivy League graduates since he, himself is one. At least that's what I meant. I'm trying to figure out how Kerry could've been talking about Bush with the joke.

Couldn't be Ivy League education, they both have one.
According to Kerry it's not about the military, but...

I don't see how it could be about anything else.
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