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Jun 21, 2008, 08:28 AM
 
The early Hancock trailer made the movie seem like it was a whacky superhero comedy. Now, the newest trailer looks like it's mainly a heavy drama. I really hope that they haven't re-tooled this movie already.
     
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Jun 21, 2008, 08:35 AM
 
I saw the same thing, but after going to the movie's official site, it does seem to be an offbeat movie about a superhero doing more damage to the city then saving it.
     
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Jun 21, 2008, 10:00 AM
 
Man, I thought it was about:

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Jun 21, 2008, 10:23 AM
 
I just watched the trailer on Quicktime. It doesn't look "serious" or "dramatic" at all. It looks like the "hook" of the story is how Hancock changes his bad attitude and why. It looks like fun and I'm going to see it for that reason.

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Jun 21, 2008, 11:12 AM
 
I think it looks pretty interesting/funny, and definitely a different take on the superhero movie. I'll probably see it.

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Jun 21, 2008, 11:29 AM
 
Nope it was not re-tooled. They are just showing you the real movie now. From what I have read it has always been a darker seriousish character study thing.

They prolly saw how Ironman and The Hulk are doing and decided to start thowing out some ads that showed it to be a more serious "real" movie.

Looks like it could be great. Or a great concept they totally botched. I am eager to see what one.

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Jun 21, 2008, 11:31 AM
 
It looks good. I tend to like his roles and his movies.
     
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Jun 21, 2008, 03:38 PM
 
Originally Posted by OwlBoy View Post
Nope it was not re-tooled. They are just showing you the real movie now. From what I have read it has always been a darker seriousish character study thing.
So Hancock is Striptease in reverse?

That's unfortunate. I was looking forward to Hancock when I thought that it was a pure comedy.
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Jun 21, 2008, 05:26 PM
 
it is one of the few movies this summer that I am actually excited to see...

I like will smith in most of his movies so I can't wait...

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Jun 21, 2008, 06:16 PM
 
Originally Posted by KeyLimePi View Post
The early Hancock trailer made the movie seem like it was a whacky superhero comedy. Now, the newest trailer looks like it's mainly a heavy drama. I really hope that they haven't re-tooled this movie already.
Yeah I noticed it too. That's OK, it will be a better movie if it isn't totally one-dimensional.
     
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Jun 21, 2008, 06:36 PM
 
As long as they don't ruin the good bits like they did in I Am Legend.

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Jun 21, 2008, 07:37 PM
 
Some of the spoilers suggest there's a twist to it that people might not appreciate if they're expecting a typical super hero movie.
     
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Jun 21, 2008, 08:41 PM
 
Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
Some of the spoilers suggest there's a twist to it that people might not appreciate if they're expecting a typical super hero movie.
The trailer gives the twist away. It's ridiculous how much movies reveal in the trailers these day.

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Jun 21, 2008, 08:52 PM
 
Originally Posted by jokell82 View Post
The trailer gives the twist away. It's ridiculous how much movies reveal in the trailers these day.
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Jun 22, 2008, 04:58 AM
 
I’m sick and tired of Will Smith films. Not that he’s essentially bad, there are just too many of his films coming out, one after the other, after the other. It’s like every time I turn around, there’s another Will Smith movie.
     
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Jun 22, 2008, 06:35 AM
 
Originally Posted by phantomdragonz View Post
it is one of the few movies this summer that I am actually excited to see...

I like will smith in most of his movies so I can't wait...

-Zach
He's one of my favorites, as well. Although Independence Day and that western movie sucked major balls. The rest of his movies I give a to.
     
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Originally Posted by red rocket View Post
I’m sick and tired of Will Smith films. Not that he’s essentially bad, there are just too many of his films coming out, one after the other, after the other. It’s like every time I turn around, there’s another Will Smith movie.
Well, maybe he likes to act...
     
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Jun 22, 2008, 09:06 AM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
I just watched the trailer on Quicktime. It doesn't look "serious" or "dramatic" at all. It looks like the "hook" of the story is how Hancock changes his bad attitude and why. It looks like fun and I'm going to see it for that reason.
If you look at my post you can see that the original trailer made it seem much more screwball compared to the new trailer that is currently airing on TV. They haven't put that 'serious' trailer on the site yet, so maybe that trailer is just for the TV audience (which I suppose is more adult).
     
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Jun 22, 2008, 10:03 AM
 
Originally Posted by red rocket View Post
I’m sick and tired of Will Smith films. Not that he’s essentially bad, there are just too many of his films coming out, one after the other, after the other. It’s like every time I turn around, there’s another Will Smith movie.
You're right. The one movie he's done each year for the past 5 years is just way too much.

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Originally Posted by ctt1wbw View Post
Well, maybe he likes to act...
Nah, he just likes money. He doesn't even like the genre he typically acts in. He's stated that one day he sat down with his agent and they figured out where he could make the most money, landing on sci-fi/action as a genre waiting for a next big star.
     
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Jun 22, 2008, 11:55 AM
 
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Jun 22, 2008, 01:22 PM
 
No way I'm giving my hard earned money to a person dumb enough to become a scientologist!
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You mean smart enough.

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Originally Posted by BasketofPuppies View Post
You mean smart enough.

For wealthy celebrities, the Church of Scientology is a tax shelter.
If dumb is the new smart then yeah
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For wealthy celebrities, the Church of Scientology is a tax shelter.
That may be, but I don't think that's a good enough reason, even if it is all for pretend. You look like an idiot, so the only reason to be a Scientologist is because you want to be. (or maybe you were coerced). There are other, easier ways for the wealthy to skirt taxes besides going off the deep end.
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Jul 4, 2008, 02:18 PM
 
I'm avoiding this movie for sure. I dunno, but I'm not optimistic about this one.
     
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Jul 4, 2008, 02:30 PM
 
Reviews are uniformly negative. I'll get it on netflix some day just to check but meh.

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Originally Posted by Randman View Post
Reviews are uniformly negative. I'll get it on netflix some day just to check but meh.
Dammit. And I was hoping for something as awesome as Wild Wild West.

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Jul 4, 2008, 03:01 PM
 
Roger Ebert gave it three stars out of four. I often have similar taste with his, so will probably end up seeing it this weekend.
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Jul 4, 2008, 04:50 PM
 
For me watching a Super Hero be depressed and not wanting to be a superhero is like watching a celebrity commit suicide.

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Originally Posted by Rumor View Post
Roger Ebert gave it three stars out of four. I often have similar taste with his, so will probably end up seeing it this weekend.
He is the same guy that loved Phantom Menace right?
     
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES View Post
He is the same guy that loved Phantom Menace right?
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Jul 4, 2008, 05:49 PM
 
Back from the flick. I enjoyed it. The ending isn't bad like people are making it out to be. It's not sad, depressing, or bad. What happens is the plot takes a weird turn about halfway through, then it continues on that track but still ends fine. Not a great superhero movie, but good enough to walk away positive.

Critics are being critics, going at this with way too much analysis and trying to pick it apart like an English literature professor finding ways to tell you Shakespeare was a hermaphrodite tri-sexual with 11 fingers based off of three lines in a draft copy of A Midsummer Night's Dream.

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Originally Posted by Randman View Post
Reviews are uniformly negative. I'll get it on netflix some day just to check but meh.
That's what I like.

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Are you calling me a liar?

Or just sore still from the other post?


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Jul 4, 2008, 08:31 PM
 
If he's actually questioning the uniformly negative reviews:
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Jul 6, 2008, 09:21 AM
 
I watched this last night, found it to be better than I was expecting, and thus really enjoyed it.

 
     
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Originally Posted by jokell82 View Post
If he's actually questioning the uniformly negative reviews:
Hancock Movie Reviews, Pictures - Rotten Tomatoes
Looking at their "top critics" page, it seems to me more like 50/50 among reviewers people actually pay attention to.

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Saw it last night; it wasn't terrible. Will Smith is hot; Charlize Theron is hot. Plot was so-so, but entertaining. One big twist.
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Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey View Post
Looking at their "top critics" page, it seems to me more like 50/50 among reviewers people actually pay attention to.
How does 36% = 50/50???

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Originally Posted by jokell82 View Post
How does 36% = 50/50???
I mean the subset of the "top critics" page that are reviewers people actually pay attention to (sorry Arizona Republic).

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Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey View Post
Looking at their "top critics" page, it seems to me more like 50/50 among reviewers people actually pay attention to.
People pay attention to reviewers?

Oh yeah, I do. I see what they say, and then I go see movies I want to see anyway. The reviewer here in San Antonio has a track record of hating just about any movie I've liked, and liking most that I either don't have any interest in or that just bore me to tears. Sort of like with Ebert, only without the background to really have an opinion...

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Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
People pay attention to reviewers?
Only in extreme cases.

Over at RT, if a movie is unanimously panned, I won't bother to see it. If a movie is unanimously extolled, I'll try to see it if I like the look of it. But if reviews are mixed, I'll make up my own mind.

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Originally Posted by Tiresias View Post
Only in extreme cases.

Over at RT, if a movie is unanimously panned, I won't bother to see it. If a movie is unanimously extolled, I'll try to see it if I like the look of it. But if reviews are mixed, I'll make up my own mind.

That's just going from experience.
I take a different approach. If the reviewers hate it or love it, I consider seeing it, especially if I was already interested in it. If they're "meh" about it, I seriously reconsider, and go look for other sources to base my decision on.

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Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
People pay attention to reviewers?

Oh yeah, I do. I see what they say, and then I go see movies I want to see anyway. The reviewer here in San Antonio has a track record of hating just about any movie I've liked, and liking most that I either don't have any interest in or that just bore me to tears. Sort of like with Ebert, only without the background to really have an opinion...
If you find a reviewer with similar tastes it really helps. I know that I agree with Roeper's reviews 95% of the time, so I typically look at his reviews before I consider going to a movie.

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