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John C. Smith · Feb 9, 2004, 03:42 PM

No this isn't a football thread. Answer which you think is better all around

Angus_D · Feb 9, 2004, 03:54 PM

Scotland.

John C. Smith · Feb 9, 2004, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by Angus_D:
Scotland.

naturally, but scotland shall be left out of this poll for now

Sherwin · Feb 9, 2004, 04:07 PM

This poll is flawed. You missed the option for "both are desolate wastelands run by retarded chimpanzees".

dreilly1 · Feb 9, 2004, 04:09 PM

Ireland has Guinness. 'nuff said.

Sherwin · Feb 9, 2004, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by dreilly1:
Ireland has Guinness. 'nuff said.

But you can't have a smoke while you're drinking it. 'nuff said.

(oh. And I wish they sold Guinness in my local pub here in England. I'm fed up with having to go to Ireland every time I want some.)

Dubya's Dealer · Feb 9, 2004, 04:28 PM

Ireland has cozy pubs burning turf, serving the perfect pint, with Gaelic storytelling.

Cool.

dreilly1 · Feb 9, 2004, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by Sherwin:
But you can't have a smoke while you're drinking it. 'nuff said.

Why not? Did they ban it or something?

Invictus · Feb 9, 2004, 04:38 PM

Germany

Beer, Porshe, Autobahn, Bratwurst, Frauleins, Octoberfest...

RooneyX · Feb 9, 2004, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by dreilly1:
Ireland has Guinness. 'nuff said.

Imported from Nigeria.

Wales sucks.

Chris O'Brien · Feb 9, 2004, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Sherwin:
(oh. And I wish they sold Guinness in my local pub here in England. I'm fed up with having to go to Ireland every time I want some.)

I can't remember the last time I went into a pub in England that didn't serve Guinness. I am in the North East, but even down South, I've always been able to buy Guinness. Unless I've completely missed the sarcasm......

Lateralus · Feb 9, 2004, 04:46 PM

They're both the same... they just don't want to admit it though.

Sherwin · Feb 9, 2004, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by dreilly1:
Why not? Did they ban it or something?

Sometime this month they're banning smoking in public bars, NYC style. Now, I don't know if you've ever been into a proper Irish pub but I'm quite looking forward to the riots when they try to enforce that one!

Originally posted by Black Book:
I can't remember the last time I went into a pub in England that didn't serve Guinness.

No, I can't either.

Originally posted by Black Book:
Unless I've completely missed the sarcasm......

Chris O'Brien · Feb 9, 2004, 05:16 PM

I thought as much

jaiqua · Feb 9, 2004, 05:23 PM

<--- is from Scotland, so won't vote. lol

iOliverC · Feb 9, 2004, 05:33 PM

England sucks, Ireland sucks, Jamaica sucks, Croatia sucks. San Marino rocks.

dreilly1 · Feb 9, 2004, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by Sherwin:
Sometime this month they're banning smoking in public bars, NYC style. Now, I don't know if you've ever been into a proper Irish pub but I'm quite looking forward to the riots when they try to enforce that one!

Actually, I think that smoking is quite vile, and would probably go back to visit Ireland again sooner rather than later if this ban sticks. When my wife and I were over there last, we spent quite some time in Galway finding a place that was playing traditional music but wasn't very smoky.

But I agree it will be tough to enforce. That NYC ban is now state-wide, and lots of places here in Western NY claim to be losing business, since people would rather stay home than go out when they'll be stuck smoking outside in the single digits! I don't think it will survive for much longer, at least up here. But I love going to my favorite places now and not smelling like smoke afterwards...

iCol · Feb 9, 2004, 06:23 PM

Well, as I am English I would have to say England is better than Ireland.

However, I am half Scottish, so given the option between England and Scotland I would be a little torn. I think Scotland might win though. Hmm.

Anyway, I am a great beleiver in the UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND. I am British, and damn proud of it.

Oh, and BTW, the Bar I work at in Sheffield serves Guinness. Most places around here do. Though I am not keen on the stuff brewed in London, the Dublin variety from the River Liffey tastes much better.

johnny_hotrod · Feb 9, 2004, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by Angus_D:
Scotland.

I'd have to third that nomination. Nothing outruns a greased Scotsman.

engaged · Feb 9, 2004, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by Angus_D:
Scotland.

+1

benign · Feb 9, 2004, 07:01 PM

Depends if you think Plural or in the singular

A) Ireland is over run with storytellers (liars)

B) England is full of gentlemen ( a lie )

Invictus · Feb 9, 2004, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by iCol:
Anyway, I am a great beleiver in the UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND. I am British, and damn proud of it.

Yeah, but what about that dysfunctional family?

Give them the boot.

Jaey · Feb 9, 2004, 08:05 PM

I'm American... That means I hate all Europeans and want to invade their countries... right?

jaiqua · Feb 9, 2004, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by Jaey:
I'm American... That means I hate all Europeans and want to invade their countries... right?

ya cannae take scotland cause we're a bunch o' barbarians!!!! or so Mel Gibson would have you believe.

John C. Smith · Feb 9, 2004, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by jaiqua:
ya cannae take scotland cause we're a bunch o' barbarians!!!! or so Mel Gibson would have you believe.

I more realistic portrayal of scotland can be found in trainspotting... lol

Sherwin · Feb 9, 2004, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by Invictus:
Yeah, but what about that dysfunctional family?

Give them the boot.

The Blairs? Yep, it's about time we got rid of them.

Avensis · Feb 9, 2004, 09:34 PM

True Irish people that like stout prefer Murphys over Guiness - the drink from Cork, the capital of Ireland.

Dublin is just the "English" capital of Ireland.

A different breed.

http://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com

Respect.

waxcrash · Feb 10, 2004, 12:29 AM

All this talk about Ireland and Guinness reminds me of a joke�

What's the difference between an Irish wedding and and Irish funeral?

One less drunk.

willed · Feb 10, 2004, 06:50 AM

Perhaps at the moment you should be asking whether England is better than Italy and whether Ireland is better than France ?

philzilla · Feb 10, 2004, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by dreilly1:
Ireland has Guinness. 'nuff said.

i've drank Guinness in more bars than i can remember, while in Ireland. it's pretty much the same drink over in England. obviously, some bars just have pissy beer, no matter what it is. the whole "Irish Guinness is better than English Guinness," thing is a myth, spread by the Irish... and enforced by Americans who've probably never set foot outside their country. (and probably claim to be half-Irish too.)

dillerX · Feb 10, 2004, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by philzilla:
i've drank Guinness in more bars than i can remember, while in Ireland. it's pretty much the same drink over in England. obviously, some bars just have pissy beer, no matter what it is. the whole "Irish Guinness is better than English Guinness," thing is a myth, spread by the Irish... and enforced by Americans who've probably never set foot outside their country. (and probably claim to be half-Irish too.)

G4ME?

lil'babykitten · Feb 10, 2004, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by philzilla:
...the whole "Irish Guinness is better than English Guinness," thing is a myth, spread by the Irish... and enforced by Americans who've probably never set foot outside their country. (and probably claim to be half-Irish too.)

Avensis · Feb 10, 2004, 07:38 AM

Murphys Goddammit!

benign · Feb 10, 2004, 08:36 AM

Monday is when all the ugly and
twisted folk walk the earth.

It's monday everyday in Ireland.

That one gets my mother-law
every time she hears it :)

dreilly1 · Feb 10, 2004, 10:05 AM

Of course you can get Guinness all over the world -- I can get some down the block from where I work -- but Ireland is where it all started, after all. Which has to count for something.

Murphy's is quite good, too. In fact, when we got our little black dog with a white chest, we named him Murphy. (My wife didn't like the name Stout, and Guinness is just too awkward a name for a dog. What's a good nickname for Guinness? Ginnie? Doesn't quite work.)

iCol · Feb 10, 2004, 10:24 AM

Philz... I really do think Irish Guinnes is much nicer than the English stuff. It's not a myth IMO.

The Guinness you get in England is brewed in London from the river Thames, while the proper Irish stuff is brewed in Dublin from the River Liffey. The taste has alot to do with that I think. The stuff in Ireland definately tastes sweeter, and has a slightly thicker consistency.

But, knowing me, I am wrong.

RooneyX · Feb 10, 2004, 10:51 AM

You guys are just hearsay victims of pop culture.

Firstly, the best Guiness is Nigerian export.

Second, drink Caffrey's.

Sherwin · Feb 10, 2004, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by RooneyX:
Second, drink Caffrey's.

Third, real men drink draft Theakston's Old Peculier, a good English ale. Non of your Flatley style jumping-about-like-big-nancies with that stuff inside ya. For sure.

philzilla · Feb 10, 2004, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by iCol:
Philz... I really do think Irish Guinnes is much nicer than the English stuff. It's not a myth IMO.

The Guinness you get in England is brewed in London from the river Thames, while the proper Irish stuff is brewed in Dublin from the River Liffey. The taste has alot to do with that I think. The stuff in Ireland definately tastes sweeter, and has a slightly thicker consistency.

But, knowing me, I am wrong.

yeah, i know it's brewed in different places, is thicker, etc. that doesn't instantly mean it's better though. there's certainly less chance of a piss poor pint in Ireland than there is in London, but i've tasted stuff just as good over here.

chris v · Feb 10, 2004, 01:26 PM

The last beer I ever drank was a Samuel Smith's Taddy Porter. It was too goddamn good.

I think if you're going to argue beer, you've got to give it to the Brits.

CV

Dubya's Dealer · Feb 10, 2004, 06:19 PM

To the Cork fellow:

When I was there with some friends enjoying a few Guinesses in a pub a very charming young lady came in asking everyone if they wanted a free pint of Murphy's. We said sure, had our Murphy's and went back to drinking Guiness or whatever it was we were drinking. But we all thought Roy Keane was super.

That's the only pint of Murphy's I remember drinking. It was good-fresh from the brewery I suppose.