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Jul 27, 2002, 04:27 PM
 
My I.Q. is 140 aproaching genuis leval. Type visual Mathmatics
     
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by MacManMikeOSX:
<strong>My I.Q. is 140 aproaching genuis leval. Type visual Mathmatics</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">What do you want, a cookie?
     
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Jul 27, 2002, 04:35 PM
 
Mine is higher than yours.

and I was baked on kindbud BOTH times I took the tests.
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Jul 27, 2002, 04:45 PM
 
My IQ is 47, just above idiot but not quite a moron.

But I try really really hard, so I gain a few points there usually.

And I'm a duct tape savant: I can just look at a roll and tell you EXACTLY how many yards are left. So I kinda make up for it there, too.
     
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Jul 27, 2002, 04:52 PM
 
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif"> I was baked on kindbud </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Who isnt
     
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Jul 27, 2002, 04:56 PM
 
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by MacManMikeOSX:
<strong>My I.Q. is 140 aproaching genuis leval.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Too bad you can't spell. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     
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Jul 27, 2002, 05:09 PM
 
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by MacManMikeOSX:
<strong>My I.Q. is 140 aproaching genuis leval. Type visual Mathmatics</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">My IQ is elevendy-twelve, and I'm ony tree n a halv year old!



In all seriousness, Isaac Asimov (someone who was famous for having a 'massive' I.Q.) wrote an excellent essay on the subject called 'Thinking About Thinking.' You can find this essay in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0061054127/qid=1027803968/sr=1-8/ref=sr_1_8/104-1938239-7653559" target="_blank">Magic, the Final Fantasy Collection</a>. The examples and specific commentary are tilted towards 70's issues (the time he wrote it), but it's still very informative and interesting.

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Edit:removed bad UBB, and made the book name a link.

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Jul 27, 2002, 05:20 PM
 
IQ doesn't have much meaning between two people unless they've taken the same test. So where's this test that you took?

On the last one I took (<a href="http://www.iqtest.com" target="_blank">http://www.iqtest.com</a>) I was measured as 160. But what does this really mean, anyway?
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Jul 27, 2002, 05:23 PM
 
plus, they're inherently subjective, so there's no REAL way to measure intelligence.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by Worst. Episode. Ever.:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by MacManMikeOSX:
<strong>My I.Q. is 140 aproaching genuis leval.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Too bad you can't spell. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Exactly what I was thinking.
     
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Jul 27, 2002, 05:29 PM
 
We had a temp at work last year that kept trying to convince us his IQ was 280.

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Jul 27, 2002, 05:33 PM
 
About 155.

Depends how I feel the day I take the test.
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Jul 27, 2002, 05:41 PM
 
I just scored 138 on an IQ test from IQTest.com
     
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Jul 27, 2002, 05:43 PM
 
We've done this thread several times, and I'd say the average reported IQ here is around 150.

Funny thing is, less than 1/10 of 1% of the population has an IQ that high.

Given the relatively small number of people who've actually taken an IQ test, the number of people with IQs measured that high is probably in the dozens. Apparently they're all here on MacNN.


It's right up there in accuracy with asking everyone to report their penis size.
     
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Jul 27, 2002, 05:45 PM
 
The angry statistician posts again!
     
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Jul 27, 2002, 05:45 PM
 
I failed the IQ test because I forgot to bring a sharpened number two pencil.

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Jul 27, 2002, 05:46 PM
 
Higher than yours.
     
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Jul 27, 2002, 05:57 PM
 
I took an on-line test a few months back, and scored a 131 while nicely buzzed.
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Jul 27, 2002, 05:58 PM
 
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by BRussell:
<strong>We've done this thread several times, and I'd say the average reported IQ here is around 150.

Funny thing is, less than 1/10 of 1% of the population has an IQ that high.

Given the relatively small number of people who've actually taken an IQ test, the number of people with IQs measured that high is probably in the dozens. Apparently they're all here on MacNN.


It's right up there in accuracy with asking everyone to report their penis size.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">I think you are probably right to be mad. 150 is extremely high and is probably really rare, although I don't know.. I took a legitimate IQ test before I enrolled in private high school, and it was administered by a psychologist. So I'd say it was pretty accurate.. He told me it was 151. *awaiting onslaught of skeptics* <img border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" title="" src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" />
     
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Jul 27, 2002, 06:04 PM
 
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by Timo:
<strong>The angry statistician posts again!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">

oops, hold on a sec...



there.
     
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Jul 27, 2002, 06:07 PM
 
I was placed into "Special Ed" classes in 1st grade and spent 1st grade through 6th grade there until my mom tutored me to get me back into "regular" classes. I learned recently I may have had "A.D.D." I don't know about that though. <img border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" title="" src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" />

What's my I.Q.? I'm not sure I remember, nor do I believe it's a measurement of intellect at all. I work as a Computer Graphic Designer, Went to college on my G.I. Bill, I served 2 yrs in the U.S. Navy, I also got my "hands dirty" doing various manual labor jobs prior to my Graphics Career. In High School I was selected for A Summer Arts program which I attended for 3 yrs at Rutgers University.

Anyway, what's your I.Q.?

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Jul 27, 2002, 06:17 PM
 
42! err....420! yeah, thats it....
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Jul 27, 2002, 06:31 PM
 
wow. it's been a while since you posted, MMMOSX. did you spend THAT much time retaking the thing trying to get it right?
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by MikeM32:
<strong>I was placed into "Special Ed" classes...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Why does that not surprise me. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     
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Jul 27, 2002, 08:48 PM
 
I'm sure my idiocy quotient is quite high.
     
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Jul 27, 2002, 09:17 PM
 
Mine goes to eleven. You see, most blokes will be playing at 10. You�re on 10, all the way up, all the way up...Where can you go from there? Nowhere. What we do, is if we need that extra push over the cliff...Eleven. One louder.
     
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Jul 27, 2002, 09:26 PM
 
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by Millennium:
<strong>But what does this really mean, anyway?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Millennium if I'm reading your question right you want to know what an IQ test measures. The way a test works is that it supposes that age any given age a person should already have learned a certain amount of material(knowledge). A person who scores 100 on an IQ test has learned exactly the amount predicted for their age. A score less than 100 would represent the person is behind in what they know for their age and are thereby deemed slow/mentally retared/stupid/ etc etc. A score over 100 means that the person is ahead in their age bracket. As a person gets older their IQ will naturally drop since they have gained age and are therefore expected to know more; unless of course they're always learning enough to balance out the change....
     
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by mo:
<strong>Mine goes to eleven. You see, most blokes will be playing at 10. You�re on 10, all the way up, all the way up...Where can you go from there? Nowhere. What we do, is if we need that extra push over the cliff...Eleven. One louder.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Why don�t you just make 10 louder and make 10 be the top number, and make that a little louder?
     
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Jul 27, 2002, 09:43 PM
 
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by Knof8:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by Millennium:
<strong>But what does this really mean, anyway?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Millennium if I'm reading your question right you want to know what an IQ test measures. The way a test works is that it supposes that age any given age a person should already have learned a certain amount of material(knowledge). A person who scores 100 on an IQ test has learned exactly the amount predicted for their age. A score less than 100 would represent the person is behind in what they know for their age and are thereby deemed slow/mentally retared/stupid/ etc etc. A score over 100 means that the person is ahead in their age bracket. As a person gets older their IQ will naturally drop since they have gained age and are therefore expected to know more; unless of course they're always learning enough to balance out the change....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">but, as cheerios points out, they are inherently flawed, because questions can have cultural bias, reflect quality of schooling rather than actual intellectual capacity....on down the line. Mine is rated high, but who cares? I also argued with the questions...for example, one might ask "which does not belong: Horse, squirrel, pig, goat" The test may only accept one right answer, but there are actually several right answers: The squirrel does not belong because it does not have hooves. The goat does no belong because it is the only one whose lactations are consumed by humans.The pig does not belong because it is the only animal in the list that routinely has multiple offspring. The Pig does not have fur. The horse is the only one used as transportation......anyways, you get the idea.
The test does NOT measure creativity, onlyt he ability to return expected answers.

Also, it reflects more of what schooling the person has been exposed to than actual intellectual capacity...in other words, its a brain dump rather than a mensuration of potential. A person might have the greatest intellectual potential ever, but have been raised in low economic conditions with access to poor schooling, and therefore might score deceptively low.

It's sort of like a ballpark estimate, but it proves nothing if you are 5 points ahead of the next guy, if you still act like an idiot, what good does intellect do?
     
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Jul 27, 2002, 09:54 PM
 
Lerk I completely agree with what you say. And the same thing goes for things such as the SAT's. I was merely stating "How IQ tests are read". NO way was I putting any validity into them. A person may be completely book smart, but if they have no street smarts then in some ways they're complete idiots.
     
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by worst episode ever:
why does that not surprise me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Maybe because you weren't forced into a special education system in 1st grade because you used to scribble all over your papers? My (older) sister recently told me I had A.D.D. but at that time when I was 6 yrs old A.D.D. was not a phenomenon.

Have you ever seen the movie "Unbreakable"? There are some interresting notions about the human psyche and our capabilities as a whole. When I first saw this film I thought it was crap compared to :The Sixth Sense", but later I realized what the message of this story was. It's very compelling, and I recommend it highly.

<img border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" title="" src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" />

Interresting how things turn out though. As I've been proven to be of superior intellect to most of my peers.

That is all.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by BRussell:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by mo:
<strong>Mine goes to eleven. You see, most blokes will be playing at 10. You�re on 10, all the way up, all the way up...Where can you go from there? Nowhere. What we do, is if we need that extra push over the cliff...Eleven. One louder.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Why don�t you just make 10 louder and make 10 be the top number, and make that a little louder?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Hey, rent "Spinal Tap." You'll enjoy it.
     
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by TNproud2b:
<strong>Mine is higher than yours.

and I was baked on kindbud BOTH times I took the tests.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">I thought it was Cynebud becaus eit was from Cyan or how ever you spell it. ??
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Jul 27, 2002, 11:18 PM
 
Hey Mike, I have a somewhat similar story.

I failed grade 1, because I could or would not read. But then I skipped grade 2 because of my math. But they stuck me in a special class that I had to go to every day or so for about an hour to catch up on my reading. Anyways, I am in the right grade, or well I am out of high school... err.. well you get the idea, and I am a research assitant at my University, I start my first classes in the fall. Anyways, ya, I think I have A.D.D. or something like it. The therapists, or physco-doctors.. hehe.. told my mother I had that, maybe I do. Never did anything about it, well no drugs. I was also a class clown. Honestly, I was sent to the office every single day. At one point I spent most of my time with the principal, following him around because they didn't know what to do with me. I was lucky though, very, very lucky that they took the time to get me on track. I was faced with a decision, either I would continue being the way I was, or I would start working and caring. Thank God I choose the latter. This was like gade 3 or 4, and by grade six I was reading things like LOTR, or Dracula... It took work though, I had to catch up on like 3 or 4 years of reading.

I really thought I was a moron, or a retard, but I guess all I needed was some sort of motivation, and in this case it was avoiding becoming the thing that I believed myself to be.

So ya, will power is a big deal, I think it can shape intillegence, and finding a reason to care about anything also helps (I just didn't care about school in grade 1). I mean someone could have the capacity to be an absolute genious, but just not care enough to ever learn anything.

Math is cool, but my real passion was physics and astronomy. So by grade 7 I had taught myself the high school physics course and more, except for some of the math. This interested me, and I cared about it, and so I just absorbed it.

By no means am I intelligent. I think I am still that stupid little kid who failed grade one, but it really is my fear of becoming that stupid little kid again that forced me to change. It is not like I work day and night trying to, I almost did no work in high school, only that which was assigned. This is embarassing, it makes me sound like a hypocrit, but I am not saying hard work changed me, I am saying my attitude changed, and my determination to avoid something also changed me.

I never want to know my IQ. To me it means nothing. I bet I scored below 100 in grade one (I think I was tested then because I could not read).

I really feel like deleteting this post, but I won't, I used myself as an example of my views, and I feel really dirty for doing so, and I have exempted as many things that could be interpreted as bragging as I could. I am not intillegent, in fact I am remarkably stupid, as the incoherent nature of this post proves.

Failing grade one is an embarassing thing, being stupid is not fun, and then knowing that their are people out their who are obviously more intelligent than oneself, and who know this, and use it to place themselves above those around them is not a fun experience. This is why modesty is a good thing, it is consideration for the people around us. It allows people to achieve their potential, without the discouragment that a lack of modesty in some individuals brings about. This is a forum, so it really doesn't matter all that much if people brag or not, but in real life, one cannot underestimate the effect this can have on people. I almost gave up in elementary because of the natural tendency for children to brag, I felt worthless in such situations. Being intillgent is a beautiful thing, but with such a gift comes a certain degree of responsibility (as with anything). A great deal of happiness can be found in placing other people ahead of ones self, and in serving people for the simple joy it brings them...

I am truely pleased that their are so many geniuses on these forums. It makes for thoughtful and insightful reading. And yes, MacManMikeOSX I am really pleased to see that you scored so well on your IQ test. Do your interests lie in mathematics? What sort of career to you intend to pursue as such? But man, that should help you out a lot! If not, it will at least make life a bit easier <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

So er, ya... Sorry if I have annoyed anyone. My post is rather harsh, it is not intended to be, not in the least, I just had some flash backs to the source of a great deal of my insecurity, and I think it was somewhat inappropriate to discuss, and preach about it. So in advance I beg for your forgiveness. Oro... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by yield2apple: I took a legitimate IQ test before I enrolled in private high school, and it was administered by a psychologist. So I'd say it was pretty accurate.. He told me it was 151. *awaiting onslaught of skeptics* <img border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" title="" src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" /> [/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">*here I am*

Let's see � at the current exchange rate of 62.9 US, that would have you very close to 95 U.S. Very impressive!
     
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by mo:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by BRussell:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by mo:
<strong>Mine goes to eleven. You see, most blokes will be playing at 10. You�re on 10, all the way up, all the way up...Where can you go from there? Nowhere. What we do, is if we need that extra push over the cliff...Eleven. One louder.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Why don�t you just make 10 louder and make 10 be the top number, and make that a little louder?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Hey, rent "Spinal Tap." You'll enjoy it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Spinal Tap? Never heard of it.
     
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by Knof8:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by Millennium:
<strong>But what does this really mean, anyway?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Millennium if I'm reading your question right you want to know what an IQ test measures. The way a test works is that it supposes that age any given age a person should already have learned a certain amount of material(knowledge). A person who scores 100 on an IQ test has learned exactly the amount predicted for their age. A score less than 100 would represent the person is behind in what they know for their age and are thereby deemed slow/mentally retared/stupid/ etc etc. A score over 100 means that the person is ahead in their age bracket. As a person gets older their IQ will naturally drop since they have gained age and are therefore expected to know more; unless of course they're always learning enough to balance out the change....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Thanks, but that's not what I meant. What I was trying to ask what practical meaning these tests have in real life. My IQ may be extremely high, but I know an autistic savant -his IQ is measured at only half mine- who can do math in his head that I can barely plod through even with a calculator. Certainly there are far better writers than me whose IQ's are lower. My girlfriend's IQ is about the same as mine, and each of us thinks the other one is smarter. And there are people with far higher IQ's than mine who do nothing better with their lives than solve brainteasers for magazine columns.

My point is, IQ speaks a great deal without saying anything.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by Millennium:
<strong>IQ doesn't have much meaning between two people unless they've taken the same test. So where's this test that you took?

On the last one I took (<a href="http://www.iqtest.com" target="_blank">http://www.iqtest.com</a>) I was measured as 160. But what does this really mean, anyway?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">I went to try that test and it's more a test to detect dyslexia than an I.Q. test!

<a href="http://www.mensa.org" target="_blank">Mensa</a> test are more like real I.Q. test, although they are different from test that psychologist use.
     
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IQ tests measure how well you do on IQ tests. Beyond that, they're just a predictor of how smart you are within the context of the questions asked. Some of the questions mean nothing in other cultures/hemispheres/lanuages. I know a lot of people who are extremely intelligent and talented who have a lot of knowledge about a few things but completely fail in real life situations. Or they have great ability but cannot convey their ideas properly to people so they end up being ineffectual anyway.

Anyway, most of the widely validated IQ tests are moot as questions from them are widely known. And I hate to say it, those online IQ tests are crap, they just want your money somehow. How do they get your money? By telling you you're smart and then asking you if you'd like to be on some "smart persons" registry. In reality, they're trying to attract the dumbest ones to take the test-- a fool and his money are soon parted.

And MENSA. I once knew a person who consistently told everyone she was in MENSA. She was also a secretary. I asked her why she didn't do something more substantial with these great mental abilities and she didn't have an answer. For all of you proclaiming high IQ, ask yourselves, "what am I doing with it?" If the answer is, "nothing that makes the world a better place" then you are wasting it. If you're going to post what your smartness is, can you at the very least give us a good example of it in action? Something clever and insightful please.

Look up the meaning of MENSA in spanish. Those people in MENSA couldn't have been very smart to name the organization MENSA in the first place.

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I couldn't hardly read at all until the third grade, when I finally got a decent teacher that figured out I had dyslexia (yes, that literally means "inability to read" in medicalese) and got me some tutoring. The next year, I was reading on a sixth grade level. Everyone learns is such different ways, intelligence is impossible to quantify.

How about those guys who can't zip up their pants, but can tell you off the cuff that October 12th, 2074 will be a Tuesday? I can't tell you without counting on my fingers what date next friday will be. But I was always 99th percentile in literacy and comprehension segments of the standardized testing given throughout high-school.

I only took a test once, administered by the Mensa Institute, whoever the hell they are, and it said 139. I think they just wanted money from me.

How the hell y'all been, anyway? I went to the beach, but now I'm back.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by BRussell:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by mo:
<strong>Mine goes to eleven. You see, most blokes will be playing at 10. You�re on 10, all the way up, all the way up...Where can you go from there? Nowhere. What we do, is if we need that extra push over the cliff...Eleven. One louder.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Why don�t you just make 10 louder and make 10 be the top number, and make that a little louder?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">.......but.......

these... go to eleven.

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Doing that test on <a href="http://www.iqtest.com" target="_blank">www.iqtest.com</a> got me 153, "genius level". Gratifying for the ego, but pure BS. It means I'm quite good at doing comprehension tests and that's about it.

To put it another way, real geniuses would not waste their time doing IQ tests <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     
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and just to let everyone know how unlikely all these high IQ scores really are...

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">These are IQs, their percentiles, and rarity on a 15 SD (e.g. Wechsler) and 16 SD (e.g. Stanford-Binet) scale.
IQ 15 SD Percentile Rarity: 1/X
16 SD Percentile Rarity: 1/X

202 99.9999999995% 190,057,377,928
99.9999999908% 10,881,440,294

201 99.9999999992% 119,937,672,336
99.9999999862% 7,252,401,045

200 99.9999999987% 76,017,176,740
99.9999999794% 4,852,159,346

199 99.9999999979% 48,390,420,202
99.9999999693% 3,258,706,819

198 99.9999999968% 30,938,221,975
99.9999999545% 2,196,908,409

197 99.9999999950% 19,866,426,228
99.9999999327% 1,486,736,899

196 99.9999999922% 12,812,462,045
99.9999999010% 1,009,976,678

195 99.9999999880% 8,299,126,114
99.9999998548% 688,720,101

194 99.9999999815% 5,399,067,340
99.9999997879% 471,441,334

193 99.9999999717% 3,527,693,270
99.9999996913% 323,940,499

192 99.9999999568% 2,314,980,850
99.9999995524% 223,436,817

191 99.9999999345% 1,525,765,721
99.9999993536% 154,701,783

190 99.9999999010% 1,009,976,678
99.9999990699% 107,519,234

189 99.9999998511% 671,455,130
99.9999986669% 75,011,253

188 99.9999997770% 448,336,263
99.9999980964% 52,530,944

187 99.9999996674% 300,656,786
99.9999972920% 36,927,646

186 99.9999995062% 202,496,482
99.9999961624% 26,057,620


IQ 15 SD Percentile Rarity: 1/X
16 SD Percentile Rarity: 1/X

185 99.9999992699% 136,975,305
99.9999945820% 18,457,107

184 99.9999989254% 93,056,001
99.9999923799% 13,123,126

183 99.9999984250% 63,492,548
99.9999893231% 9,366,012

182 99.9999977016% 43,508,721
99.9999850966% 6,709,882

181 99.9999966604% 29,943,596
99.9999792755% 4,825,216

180 99.9999951684% 20,696,863
99.9999712895% 3,483,046

179 99.9999930398% 14,367,357
99.9999603760% 2,523,720

178 99.9999900166% 10,016,587
99.9999455198% 1,835,530

177 99.9999857417% 7,013,455
99.9999253755% 1,340,043

176 99.9999797237% 4,931,877
99.9998981672% 982,001

175 99.9999712895% 3,483,046
99.9998615605% 722,337

174 99.9999595211% 2,470,424
99.9998125011% 533,337

173 99.9999431733% 1,759,737
99.9997470088% 395,271

172 99.9999205647% 1,258,887
99.9996599197% 294,048

171 99.9998894360% 904,454
99.9995445629% 219,569

170 99.9998467663% 652,598
99.9993923584% 164,571

169 99.9997885357% 472,893
99.9991923180% 123,811

IQ 15 SD Percentile Rarity: 1/X
16 SD Percentile Rarity: 1/X

168 99.9997094213% 344,141
99.9989304314% 93,496

167 99.9996024097% 251,515
99.9985889129% 70,867

166 99.9994583047% 184,606
99.9981452833% 53,917

165 99.9992651083% 136,074
99.9975712563% 41,174

164 99.9990072440% 100,730
99.9968313965% 31,560

163 99.9986645903% 74,883
99.9958815099% 24,281

162 99.9982112841% 55,906
99.9946667250% 18,750

161 99.9976142490% 41,916
99.9931192192% 14,533

160 99.9968313965% 31,560
99.9911555410% 11,307

159 99.9958094411% 23,863
99.9886734737% 8,829

158 99.9944812644% 18,120
99.9855483883% 6,920

157 99.9927627566% 13,817
99.9816290270% 5,443

156 99.9905490555% 10,581
99.9767326626% 4,298

155 99.9877101029% 8,137
99.9706395788% 3,406

154 99.9840854286% 6,284
99.9630868216% 2,709

153 99.9794780761% 4,873
99.9537611786% 2,163

152 99.9736475807% 3,795
99.9422913506% 1,733

151 99.9663019177% 2,968
99.9282392963% 1,394

IQ 15 SD Percentile Rarity: 1/X
16 SD Percentile Rarity: 1/X

150 99.9570883466% 2,330
99.9110907427% 1,125

149 99.9455830880% 1,838
99.8902448799% 911

148 99.9312797919% 1,455
99.8650032777% 741

147 99.9135767802% 1,157
99.8345580959% 604

146 99.8917630764% 924
99.7979796890% 495

145 99.8650032777% 741
99.7542037453% 407

144 99.8323213712% 596
99.7020181412% 336

143 99.7925836483% 482
99.6400497338% 278

142 99.7444809358% 391
99.5667513617% 231

141 99.6865104294% 319
99.4803893690% 192

140 99.6169574875% 261
99.3790320141% 161

139 99.5338778217% 215
99.2605391688% 135

138 99.4350805958% 177
99.1225537500% 114

137 99.3181130218% 147
98.9624953632% 96

136 99.1802471131% 122
98.7775566587% 82

135 99.0184693146% 102
98.5647029151% 70

134 98.8294737819% 85
98.3206753694% 60

133 98.6096601092% 72
98.0419987942% 51

IQ 15 SD Percentile Rarity: 1/X
16 SD Percentile Rarity: 1/X

132 98.3551363216% 61
97.7249937964% 44

131 98.0617279292% 52
97.3657942589% 38

130 97.7249937964% 44
96.9603702812% 33

129 97.3402495072% 38
96.5045568849% 29

128 96.9025987934% 32
95.9940886433% 25

127 96.4069734486% 28
95.4246402670% 22

126 95.8481819706% 24
94.7918730337% 19

125 95.2209669590% 21
94.0914867949% 17

124 94.5200710546% 18
93.3192771207% 15

123 93.7403109348% 16
92.4711969715% 13

122 92.8766585983% 14
91.5434221090% 12

121 91.9243288744% 12
90.5324192858% 11

120 90.8788718026% 11
89.4350160914% 9

119 89.7362682436% 10
88.2484711894% 9

118 88.4930268282% 9
86.9705435536% 8

117 87.1462801289% 8
85.5995592220% 7

116 85.6938777630% 7
84.1344740241% 6

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by chris v:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by BRussell:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by mo:
<strong>Mine goes to eleven. You see, most blokes will be playing at 10. You�re on 10, all the way up, all the way up...Where can you go from there? Nowhere. What we do, is if we need that extra push over the cliff...Eleven. One louder.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Why don�t you just make 10 louder and make 10 be the top number, and make that a little louder?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">.......but.......

these... go to eleven.

CV</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Thank you. That's all I wanted.
     
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by Millennium:
<strong>Thanks, but that's not what I meant. What I was trying to ask what practical meaning these tests have in real life. My IQ may be extremely high, but I know an autistic savant -his IQ is measured at only half mine- who can do math in his head that I can barely plod through even with a calculator. Certainly there are far better writers than me whose IQ's are lower. My girlfriend's IQ is about the same as mine, and each of us thinks the other one is smarter. And there are people with far higher IQ's than mine who do nothing better with their lives than solve brainteasers for magazine columns.

My point is, IQ speaks a great deal without saying anything.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Have you read the Bell Curve? The main point, which got lost in all the furor over the racial and social funding arguments, is that IQ predicts all kinds of very important things. Things like criminality and having children out of wedlock. And that aspect of the book is not disputed by most serious social science-types.
     
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[/QUOTE]Why don�t you just make 10 louder and make 10 be the top number, and make that a little louder?[/qb][/QUOTE].......but.......

these... go to eleven.

CV[/qb][/QUOTE]Thank you. That's all I wanted.[/QB][/QUOTE]

Sorry, BRussell, I densely took your reply literally and blew my own punchline. (More evidence I should stay out of IQ-related discussions.)
     
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by BRussell:
<strong>We've done this thread several times, and I'd say the average reported IQ here is around 150.

Funny thing is, less than 1/10 of 1% of the population has an IQ that high.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">I wonder if you'd get a different distribution in an AOL chat room?

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

But seriously. Just remember that frequent posters at MacNN do not represent the US population. Most people here are educated, upper-middle class citizens with fairly decent lifestyles (decent enough to afford a Macintosh).

Not saying that this explains why everyone says that they have an I.Q. of 150... just that people here do not represent whatever statistics say a random sample of the US should represent.

Also, what portion of the MacNN population would take an I.Q. test and publicly announce their score?

Just some questions to think about...

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by mo:
<strong>Sorry, BRussell, I densely took your reply literally and blew my own punchline. (More evidence I should stay out of IQ-related discussions.)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Yeah you blew that one. But that's OK, anyone with such a low post-to-time ratio is OK in my book.
     
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by MacManMikeOSX:
<strong>My I.Q. is 140 aproaching genuis leval. Type visual Mathmatics</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Mine's 156 - closer to genius than thou!
     
 
 
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