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This is going to seem like I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth, but I'm discussing emotions, so they're complicated.
One one side, basically anything which could happen to demonstrate how utterly broken and worthless this primary system is, has happened.
On the other side, we have this utterly broken system in the first place as means to avoid exactly what's happening right now... which is both parties ending up like Jennifer Jason Leigh's face in The Hateful Eight.
What is the deal with Bernie not wanting to release his taxes? It seems oddly evasive for a guy who is supposed to be running a more forthright campaign.
The best I can think of which isn't genuinely nefarious is he has some embarrassing income loss he claimed as a deduction. Bad investment or something.
Yeah, the scuttlebutt is that combined he and his wife are worth >$5M, placing him well within the 1%. It probably embarrassed him.
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
Not yet. I don't exactly understand what Bernie is doing, but I'm reluctant to air my negative views in fear of: a) angering his supporters, b) displaying a lack of objectivity, c) undermining my liberal cred.
I like the guy, but I've hated how his campaign's been run.
Another example of why I don't want her anywhere near the White House again.
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
I would have preferred Sanders to get the nomination, but at this point I don't think it makes sense to look at the election through the lens of issues which are most dear to your heart, like the 2nd amendment. The question to me is: who has the best judgement to steer America through a lot of really rough waters? Prior to this election I would have said that it really doesn't matter, as with the problems of money in politics all politicians are essentially the same, but right now I'd have to vote for Clinton because it seems like this choice is about who has some sound judgment vs. literally no demonstration of sound judgment at all.
Clinton is better than Trump, but I still have principles. When Hillary is being a goddamn idiot, I'm going to call her a goddamn idiot.
This has nothing to do with the Second Amendment. I welcome cogent debate on the subject.
A Venn diagram being used as nothing more than a design element backed by a Facebook caliber platitude do not qualify.
I just don't understand what the point is in getting upset over a venn diagram, or even the second amendment at this point. With the former one might conclude that Clinton is poor at managing her campaign staff, and therefore would be poor at managing a staff in running the country (assuming she cannot learn and evolve), and with the latter we might conclude that she feels much differently than you about guns and might push to change some gun legislation (although history has shown that chances are very remote of any drastic changes here).
But this isn't an election cycle where we should be persuaded to vote for a candidate based on either of these sorts of things. The choice is far simpler and less nuanced, I think.
I just don't understand what the point is in getting upset over a venn diagram, or even the second amendment at this point. With the former one might conclude that Clinton is poor at managing her campaign staff, and therefore would be poor at managing a staff in running the country (assuming she cannot learn and evolve), and with the latter we might conclude that she feels much differently than you about guns and might push to change some gun legislation (although history has shown that chances are very remote of any drastic changes here).
But this isn't an election cycle where we should be persuaded to vote for a candidate based on either of these sorts of things. The choice is far simpler and less nuanced, I think.
And at this point I'm assuming that I don't need to define what Trump would represent, I think we are all miraculously on the same page here.
It's strange that there doesn't seem to be any supporters of the right wing candidate here this cycle.
This is Hillary's problem. If you're put off, she's in deep shit.
The reason her tweet is a problem is it's supposed to be an opportunity for you to support her, but it's such ****ing garbage, the strongest support you can muster is "well... not Trump".
I'm not even going to get into how Twitter is where Trump excels, and the best she can muster is worse than nothing.
This is Hillary's problem. If you're put off, she's in deep shit.
The reason her tweet is a problem is it's supposed to be an opportunity for you to support her, but it's such ****ing garbage, the strongest support you can muster is "well... not Trump".
I'm not even going to get into how Twitter is where Trump excels, and the best she can muster is worse than nothing.
We are sooooooo screwed.
I'm not put off at her position here, I don't really care about protecting gun rights.
But again, I'm not enthusiastic about any one person, including Sanders. I'm not going to become enthusiastic until we start to get money out of politics the way it is now. I wouldn't have been enthusiastic about Sanders either because I know that just electing him would not be enough. It just would have been a step in the right direction of a very long corrective process that involves reforming the entire system, and by extension the entire way capitalism is practiced to reward greed.
I was excited about Bernie, though. I'm surprised you say you weren't.
I liked him, but it was clear that his movement wasn't big enough, and I don't think a young movement where he barely wins the election would have been enough. Hopefully other people can pick up where he left things off.
The simpleton argument for "Gun Control" or Gun Safety" is pretty funny. What, more gun free zones? That has NEVER worked but its what the shallow and gullible left has been doing over and over. I see the problem as the left doesn't know what to do but is dong as stupid a thing as their hand wringing little minds can muster. Hillary does want to severely limit gun use and availability, but is too stupid like most all the left as they are JUST putting WORDS ON PAPER. NOTHING they try ever works. Quit wasting time listening to their BS.
It's strange that there doesn't seem to be any supporters of the right wing candidate here this cycle.
Has Badkosh stated a preference?
I don't know why Hillary would be stupid enough to comment about guns this close to an election. She seems to be getting poor advice. I was amazed to see her on an episode of Broad City a few weeks back.
As for other reasons to vote for her, you can throw these in I think. Some are better than others:
Unlikely to screw the economy like a Republican almost certainly will;
Unlikely to start a war to help her get re-elected in four years;
First woman president;
Won't make the US a laughing stock to the rest of the world;
Likely to continue the status quo (devil you know);
Won't repeal Obamacare for the sake of it;
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
The simpleton argument for "Gun Control" or Gun Safety" is pretty funny. What, more gun free zones? That has NEVER worked but its what the shallow and gullible left has been doing over and over. I see the problem as the left doesn't know what to do but is dong as stupid a thing as their hand wringing little minds can muster. Hillary does want to severely limit gun use and availability, but is too stupid like most all the left as they are JUST putting WORDS ON PAPER. NOTHING they try ever works. Quit wasting time listening to their BS.
They're TRYING to get people hurt and killed with "gun free zones". They know those don't work but they believe that if enough people die we'll finally get rid of guns entirely. What they don't understand is that, either way, it's going to take a Constitutional amendment.
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
Unlikely to screw the economy like a Republican almost certainly will;
They're about equal in that regard.
Unlikely to start a war to help her get re-elected in four years;
Hillary is much more of a warhawk.
First woman president;
Unimportant.
Won't make the US a laughing stock to the rest of the world;
Unimportant. Look at what JT has done to Canada, that's far worse.
Likely to continue the status quo (devil you know);
That's a strike against her, given how unpopular Obama's economic policies have been.
Won't repeal Obamacare for the sake of it;
Which is what the majority of Americans want in the first place.
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
They're TRYING to get people hurt and killed with "gun free zones". They know those don't work but they believe that if enough people die we'll finally get rid of guns entirely. What they don't understand is that, either way, it's going to take a Constitutional amendment.
Oh they understand, but they also know thats not going to happen soon so they are just trying do something rather than nothing to make themselves feel more useful.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
The wife of a president who pulled off a pretty spectacular economic turnaround versus the poster child for bankruptcy with fondness for big shiny gold things that would embarrass most Persians and who wants to build a multi-billion dollar wall?
Sure, that makes sense.
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants
Hillary is much more of a war hawk.
Preposterous. I don't even believe that Trump will do half what he says but if his team says "war gets you re-elected" thats exactly what he'll do.
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants
Unimportant.
To you, yes. And maybe it should be. But it isn't to everyone.
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants
Unimportant. Look at what JT has done to Canada, that's far worse.
No, he's pretty popular outside redneck country.
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants
That's a strike against her, given how unpopular Obama's economic policies have been.
It can go for or against depending on your opinion. Anyone who thinks Trump can't do worse is an idiot..
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants
Which is what the majority of Americans want in the first place.
I'm really not sure thats true. Maybe the majority of people you talk to.
Its post like this that make bring me back to thinking you're a die hard Republican. Every one of your responses here looks like just blind Hillary-hating.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
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