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EU peeps: Get your Apple displays now...
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http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2005/12/19/levy_lcd/
The EU plans to impose a 14 per cent import duty on imports of larger LCD screens, leading pundits to forecast a huge hike in sticker prices.
Dutch trade organisation ICT Office believes the tariff will cost its members "millions".
The tariff would be applied to all monitors that are not produced within the EU, which is the majority of monitors imported. LG manufactures some units in Wales, while Philips manufactures most of its units in the Far East.
Last year the Netherlands became the first EU member state to impose a 14 per cent tax on DVI screens as a result of a EU directive signed in 2004. Imports shifted largely to Germany, which still allows zero duty imports. Eventually the Dutch State Secretary of Finance intervened and decided that LCD monitors classified solely as a computer monitor would not have to be taxed.
This is now going to change again in all EU member states. LCD DVI computer screens larger than 19 inch - monitors which often also can be used to watch television - are likely to be taxed. This spells trouble in particular for Media Center rigs, which often require a large monitor.
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Thank goodness I don't live in Europe. いちばん
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Originally Posted by JoshuaZ
Thank goodness I don't live in Europe. いちばん
Good, affordable old Japan.
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More taxes, if they don't charge us enough :|
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Electronic toys are often cheaper in Japan.
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Originally Posted by OreoCookie
Electronic toys are often cheaper in Japan.
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Originally Posted by Chuckit
Good, affordable old Japan.
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What the hell??! How can this in any way be justified? Lame. :
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Originally Posted by ReggieX
How can this in any way be justified?
Heh, they don't need justification. They impose a tax and the people will pay. Simple as that.
14% is A LOT. base price + 21% VAT + 14% of this shitty tax. Nice. 20" back above €1000.
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Interesting how this happened right on the tails of the lame trade meeting in Hong Kong.
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Only in Europe™ ! The fascist EU sucks a big one.
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Originally Posted by PacHead
Only in Europe™ ! The fascist EU sucks a big one.
No, people who don't know the meaning of 'fascist' suck the big one.
If this bothers you, and it would bother me, write to your MP and make a stink. That's what they are there for.
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Originally Posted by Mastrap
No, people who don't know the meaning of 'fascist' suck the big one.
If this bothers you, and it would bother me, write to your MP and make a stink. That's what they are there for.
Or alternatively, leave the EU for another continent. Like you did.
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Consider that this is why we broke off from Britain, not because our president spied on us or some such nonsense, but TAXES! You're welcome to become independent nations again whenever you so choose.
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Originally Posted by Doofy
Or alternatively, leave the EU for another continent. Like you did.
... or join the European Freestate Project.
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Originally Posted by Psychonaut
They're being a bit optimistic, methinks.
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Originally Posted by Psychonaut
Leet FrontPage skillz.
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Originally Posted by Mister Elf
Consider that this is why we broke off from Britain, not because our president spied on us or some such nonsense, but TAXES! You're welcome to become independent nations again whenever you so choose.
before replying "what?" i checked my $2 bill & now understand your point!!
god they were heavy on the lcd-usage back then
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Bummer. Then I can get a Dell display for the Apple price. Yeehaw.
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Originally Posted by Goldfinger
14% is A LOT. base price + 21% VAT + 14% of this shitty tax. Nice. 20" back above €1000.
Or, as it is here, I believe: base price + 25% VAT + 9% ‘technical taxes’ (added to all things IT, more or less) + now this 14% LCD tax. That’s 48 percent taxes to add to the base price. Greedy bastards.
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Maybe a cold, wet towel will help…
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Originally Posted by Mister Elf
Consider that this is why we broke off from Britain, not because our president spied on us or some such nonsense, but TAXES! You're welcome to become independent nations again whenever you so choose.
Um, no.
Your beef with Britain was, IIRC, "taxation without representation".
Yeah, the phrase has the word "taxation" in it, so I can see how that would put you off.
Another revelation for you, my poor friend: "Dog biscuits", despite their miselading name, are not a tea-time snack, any more than LCD displays should be prerequisite to a tea-party, neither in Boston, nor elsewhere.
No need to thank me. I'm here to help.
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P.S.: Hi PacHead! Still off the meds, I see! :waves:
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Originally Posted by OreoCookie
Electronic toys are often cheaper in Japan.
They are, unfortunately, the only things that are cheaper in Japan - along with plastic model kits.
ouch.
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Originally Posted by analogika
They are, unfortunately, the only things that are cheaper in Japan - along with plastic model kits.
And various forms of nurses’ and schoolgirls’ uniforms sold from vending machines, no?
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Originally Posted by Oisín
And various forms of nurses’ and schoolgirls’ uniforms sold from vending machines, no?
The sizes are smaller so they don't need as much material, saving on costs/.
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Originally Posted by Oisín
Or, as it is here, I believe: base price + 25% VAT + 9% ‘technical taxes’ (added to all things IT, more or less) + now this 14% LCD tax. That’s 48 percent taxes to add to the base price.
More like 55% if it's cumulative (which it probably will be).
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Originally Posted by Doofy
More like 55% if it's cumulative (which it probably will be).
I’m in no way certain here, but I think taxes added to goods aren’t cumulative here, though taxes paid from your income are. But I could well be wrong.
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Originally Posted by Psychonaut
Sounds like an open source project.
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Originally Posted by Doofy
Or alternatively, leave the EU for another continent. Like you did.
There is that possibility too.
But if that's not an option, make your MP's life hell.
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Originally Posted by Mastrap
There is that possibility too.
But if that's not an option, make your MP's life hell.
My MP's in the Labour Party - I'm pretty sure his life is hell already.
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I wish I knew what MP meant.
Also, the textbooks have it wrong. Our warcry may have been "No Taxation Without Representation," but in realiy we wanted "No Taxation." Turns out good ol' King George offered us a chance to sit in Parliament; we just flat-out refused. Why? Because the colonies had grown so used to home-rule, they couldn't handle the concept of not being allowed to tax themselves anymore. Plus, the greedy bastards refused to pay a damn cent for the war that Britain fought FOR them!
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Originally Posted by TheoCryst
I wish I knew what MP meant.
Member of Parliament. Our version of senators.
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Originally Posted by TheoCryst
I wish I knew what MP meant.
Member of Parliament.
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All I know is, I'll be glad to get back home. They can call it whatever they want, it's still the same people making the rules....the banks!
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Originally Posted by analogika
They are, unfortunately, the only things that are cheaper in Japan - along with plastic model kits.
ouch.
And vegetables
(1 € for a single (!) green pepper. Or single cloned carrots (with a very Bugs Bunny-like shape.)
The iPod mini was (if you take the exchange rate into account) 50 € cheaper, I got a digital camera for 450 € there. It still sells at around 500 € on ebay
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Originally Posted by OreoCookie
And vegetables
(1 € for a single (!) green pepper. Or single cloned carrots (with a very Bugs Bunny-like shape.)
Oh, how I miss being able to go out and buy 2 kg of assorted vegetables for €1...
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Oh, how I miss being able to go out and buy 2 kg of assorted vegetables for €1...
I thought you were learning Chinese … and not Japanese??
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I am—those are Beijing prices. I just figured they’d be fairly similar
Also, the sense of coming home to ridiculously bloated vegetable prices is very similar, whether it’s Japanese or Chinese vegetables we’re talking about...
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I was guessing Japan to be more expensive than Beijing …
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Originally Posted by OreoCookie
Electronic toys are often cheaper in Japan.
To counteract everything else that isn't.
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Hmm, I don't think the tax will happen, it sounds simply like a scouting move in the ongoing Trade Wars, probbing Asia to see how it would react.
It goes back to the Battle of Textiles with China earlier this year, which reached sone kind of equilibrium.
"But will put a tariff on your electronics instead! Ha, take that!"
Waste of time, IMHO.
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Therefore, the role of government and public administration should be limited to a minimal extent: Protection of property
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Originally Posted by JoshuaZ
Thank goodness I don't live in Europe. いちばん
Well, as a fair compensation you have an emperor and some earthquakes..
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as usual... never, never buy your electronics in europe.
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