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nickw311 · Aug 1, 2006, 11:33 AM

I do tech support for an internet service provider and I am helping a guy set up his new Dell... Right now it is not working well at all and I commented that "thats what you get with Microsoft"

He then asked me what I use and I explained that I use a Mac, his response immediately was "You can put a Mac on the internet!?!?!"

Ahh I love it, what morons...

davoomac · Aug 1, 2006, 11:35 AM

ahahah! man that's classic. Gotta love it!

SirCastor · Aug 1, 2006, 11:37 AM

Wow... seriously? Where do these people pick these things up?

ort888 · Aug 1, 2006, 11:37 AM

They got the internet on computers now?

Landos Mustache · Aug 1, 2006, 11:37 AM

You mean "You can put a Mac on Internet"

Chuckit · Aug 1, 2006, 11:38 AM

Heck, they've even got snakes on a plane now.

nickw311 · Aug 1, 2006, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Heck, they've even got snakes on a plane now.

hahaha nice

jedi2187 · Aug 1, 2006, 11:43 AM

Internet? You mean, like in 'Tron'?

mitchell_pgh · Aug 1, 2006, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by nickw311

I do tech support for an internet service provider and I am helping a guy set up his new Dell... Right now it is not working well at all and I commented that "thats what you get with Microsoft"

He then asked me what I use and I explained that I use a Mac, his response immediately was "You can put a Mac on the internet!?!?!"

Ahh I love it, what morons...

I now get just the opposite from my friends.

Someone will say "WOW, that's a cool design, how did you do it!" and another person will say "oh, he has a Mac" and the conversation stops there. Like my Mac did everything and I just told it what I wanted.

I also joke around with them about AMAZING capabilities. I'll sit down to their computers and say "you still use a keyboard?" they will undoubtedly say "yes"... I in turn roll my eyes and start typing while grumbling "how archaic."

davoomac · Aug 1, 2006, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh

I now get just the opposite from my friends.

Someone will say "WOW, that's a cool design, how did you do it!" and another person will say "oh, he has a Mac" and the conversation stops there. Like my Mac did everything and I just told it what I wanted.

I also joke around with them about AMAZING capabilities. I'll sit down to their computers and say "you still use a keyboard?" they will undoubtedly say "yes"... I in turn roll my eyes and start typing while grumbling "how archaic."

ROFL!

Expose by itself is reason enough for some of my friends to drool over my mac.

Dork. · Aug 1, 2006, 12:16 PM

Macs won't work on the Internet unless you get a special adaptor, though, since Macs use a different size tube to connect than PC's....

Velocity211 · Aug 1, 2006, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by nickw311

I do tech support for an internet service provider and I am helping a guy set up his new Dell... Right now it is not working well at all and I commented that "thats what you get with Microsoft"

He then asked me what I use and I explained that I use a Mac, his response immediately was "You can put a Mac on the internet!?!?!"

Ahh I love it, what morons...

What was your response to that? I just wouldn't know what to say, I'd either laugh so much until I died or hang up.

His Dudeness · Aug 1, 2006, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Dork.

Macs won't work on the Internet unless you get a special adaptor, though, since Macs use a different size tube to connect than PC's....

No no no, Macs don't have floppies anymore. The internet comes on a floppy, so no mac user can use the internet anymore.

TheoCryst · Aug 1, 2006, 01:21 PM

No no, Microsoft runs the Internet, and Macs aren't made by Microsoft, so they are incompatible with the Internet.

...wait, you can print from a Mac? On the printer we already have? No way.

(This was the actual argument, almost verbatim, that my dad made when I suggested he buy my little sister a Mac.)

His Dudeness · Aug 1, 2006, 01:58 PM

Well, Microsoft invented the GUI and the mouse, according to many people I talk to around here. And they do actually seemed surprised when I tell them, yes you can run Office on a Mac. Then come the games argument.

Kerrigan · Aug 1, 2006, 02:00 PM

Did you know that MAC makes Ipod?

Person Man · Aug 1, 2006, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh

I also joke around with them about AMAZING capabilities. I'll sit down to their computers and say "you still use a keyboard?" they will undoubtedly say "yes"... I in turn roll my eyes and start typing while grumbling "how archaic."

No, no, no.

You have to look at the computer and talk to it. "Computer... computer..." Then when it doesn't respond, pick up the mouse and try talking into it. Then when your friends say "Just use the keyboard," say "Keyboard. How quaint." Crack your wrists, and then start typing.

A la Scotty at an original Macintosh in Star Trek IV.

His Dudeness · Aug 1, 2006, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Did you know that MAC makes Ipod?

Dude! Microsoft makes the iPod. They just let Apple put its logo on it. And Creative invneted the method of selecting music on an mp3 player.

Obi Wan's Ghost · Aug 1, 2006, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by His Dudeness

Dude! Microsoft makes the iPod. They just let Apple put its logo on it. And Creative invneted the method of selecting music on an mp3 player.

Creative invented menus and highlighting menu items and all that!

Dakar · Aug 1, 2006, 02:49 PM

He had to be screwing with you

Chuckit · Aug 1, 2006, 02:49 PM

I actually got the Scotty reference.

Dakar · Aug 1, 2006, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

I actually got the Scotty reference.

You're not the only one.

Ghoser777 · Aug 1, 2006, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

I actually got the Scotty reference.

I don't think people appreciate the classics anymore. But the real line I think was "How quaint."

Zeeb · Aug 1, 2006, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by TheoCryst

No no, Microsoft runs the Internet, and Macs aren't made by Microsoft, so they are incompatible with the Internet.

...wait, you can print from a Mac? On the printer we already have? No way.

(This was the actual argument, almost verbatim, that my dad made when I suggested he buy my little sister a Mac.)

My friend who is a database analyst, very technical and should know better commented the other day that my MBP was good little other than an overpriced coffee shop fashion statement. He said this in all seriousness. He doesn't believe it can run windows--even though I have it loaded on, or that the specs compare with even low end PCs. Errrrrr. Of course he comes over every Sunday night to play Civ 4 on it with me.

Gossamer · Aug 1, 2006, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Did you know that MAC makes Ipod?

I HATE you.

(they make the I-book and I-mac too)

chabig · Aug 1, 2006, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by His Dudeness

Dude! Microsoft makes the iPod. They just let Apple put its logo on it. And Creative invneted the method of selecting music on an mp3 player.

That's only because Microsoft owns Apple. How many times have I heard that?

voodoo · Aug 1, 2006, 06:25 PM

The internets is a series of tubes, not a dump truck. That's why Macs can't send internets.

V

davoomac · Aug 1, 2006, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by voodoo

The internets is a series of tubes, not a dump truck. That's why Macs can't send internets.

V

rofl! i think i'd have to agree with this

brassplayersrock² · Aug 1, 2006, 06:43 PM

i heard the internet was in a small small room someplace monitored by one or two people with super high end cant kill us or the world will go to hell security clarance?

Brass · Aug 1, 2006, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Person Man

No, no, no.

You have to look at the computer and talk to it. "Computer... computer..." Then when it doesn't respond, pick up the mouse and try talking into it. Then when your friends say "Just use the keyboard," say "Keyboard. How quaint." Crack your wrists, and then start typing.

A la Scotty at an original Macintosh in Star Trek IV.

Actually, they said, "here use this", and passed him the mouse. He then picked up the mouse and used it like a microphone, "computer, computer..."

Kevin · Aug 1, 2006, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Obi Wan's Ghost

Creative invented menus and highlighting menu items and all that!

AHAHhahahaha

There are some people in THIS VERY FORUM that has said that.

C.A.T.S. CEO · Aug 1, 2006, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by SirCastor

Wow... seriously? Where do these people pick these things up?

The school system

brassplayersrock² · Aug 1, 2006, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO

The school system

****. i knew i was getting into the wrong profession

C.A.T.S. CEO · Aug 1, 2006, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by brassplayersrock

****. i knew i was getting into the wrong profession

Salty · Aug 2, 2006, 12:12 AM

My mom was asking someone from the company she works for selling cosmetics, how to get onto this NetMeeting software for something they had the option of doing. The woman kept telling my mom to find the start button, my mom said she didn't have a start button, no no no you do have a start button... "David..."
I tried to explain to the woman on the other end that my mom wasn't running Windows... sooo... painful.

greenamp · Aug 2, 2006, 01:43 AM

The correct response should have been:

"Yes, but only with Web 2.0"

alphasubzero949 · Aug 2, 2006, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by voodoo

The internets is a series of tubes, not a dump truck. That's why Macs can't send internets.

V

Macs are dump trucks?

analogika · Aug 2, 2006, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by nickw311

I do tech support for an internet service provider and I am helping a guy set up his new Dell... Right now it is not working well at all and I commented that "thats what you get with Microsoft"

He then asked me what I use and I explained that I use a Mac, his response immediately was "You can put a Mac on the internet!?!?!"

Actually, Apple is aware of the problem, and will have their own internet solution up for sale (subscription-only) by Q2 2007.

chris v · Aug 2, 2006, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh

I now get just the opposite from my friends.

Someone will say "WOW, that's a cool design, how did you do it!" and another person will say "oh, he has a Mac" and the conversation stops there. Like my Mac did everything and I just told it what I wanted.

I also joke around with them about AMAZING capabilities. I'll sit down to their computers and say "you still use a keyboard?" they will undoubtedly say "yes"... I in turn roll my eyes and start typing while grumbling "how archaic."

I have converted two people to the Mac just by fast-user switching. Bam. Sold.

Agasthya · Aug 2, 2006, 08:34 AM

Hasn't that dude seen the new Apple ads? Not only can you put a Mac on the internet... it will also never crash, never catch a virus, and you can use for FUN stuff like videos and pictures as opposed to PCs which you can only use for BORING stuff like spreadsheets and productivity.

davoomac · Aug 2, 2006, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by chris v

I have converted two people to the Mac just by fast-user switching. Bam. Sold.

NIce!
After showing him Expose and fast user switching, I also got my friend to buy a macbook pro.
I think when I asked my computer to "tell me a joke", that sealed the deal

besson3c · Aug 2, 2006, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by chris v

I have converted two people to the Mac just by fast-user switching. Bam. Sold.

It's funny how people can be swayed by these sorts of bells and whistles.

In a way, I kind of think that we are worse off as a society having made computers more toy-like. There are simply too many idoitic people doing idiotic things with their computers, not prepared for any sort of responsibility, and/or putting too much power in the hands of users who, in a perfect world, would need a license to operate their computers

davesimondotcom · Aug 2, 2006, 10:34 AM

Years ago, I worked at OfficeMax in the electronics department - meaning I sold computers. This was 1995, the year (obviously) Windows 95 was released.

We had a selection of HP, Compaq, IBM (some with OS/2 instead of Windows), Packard-Bell and Apple computers. The Macs were: Performa 61xx series, PowerBook 520 and 540 (I think.)

I had on my badge "Dave - The Mac Guy" and was pretty severely persecuted for being such. Even though it would blow away my coworkers when I'd do something simple like connecting the Performas at one end of the row with the PowerBooks at the other end and exchanging information. Networking. How new!

One guy (the manager of the department), when he wasn't taking smoke breaks, was walking the aisle playing solitaire on every PC in the place. What work ethic! But I digress...

During that time, I had many, many people tell me that you couldn't get a Mac on the Internet. They also told me that Apple was going out of business (still is, I hear.) But the most shocking thing for me was that they would tell me that not only did Windows come first and the Mac was a copy, but Bill Gates not only "invented" the GUI, he invented the personal computer! One guy was so sure about it that he said Gates built the first one in his garage.

A couple years later, while I was working at Staples doing pretty much the same thing, Steve came back, had the deal with Microsoft with Gates on the Big Brother screen, etc. After that, it's impossible to convince some people that Microsoft doesn't own Apple.

And on top of all that, before any of this, do you know how many times my PC lovin' friends would make fun of Mac users because they were so "stupid" that they had to have their computer say things like, "Do you really want to close this document?" And such. And that Macs made all those silly sounds and noises.

By the time Windows 95 came out, those same friends had noises attached to every single function they could. Click on an icon, it makes a fart noise, etc. And they'd have garish cursors that you wouldn't believe. What a joke.

voodoo · Aug 2, 2006, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by alphasubzero949

Macs are dump trucks?

Everything is compatible with dump trucks these days. Even Macs.. except for the earliest models of course.

V

Brass · Aug 2, 2006, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

It's funny how people can be swayed by these sorts of bells and whistles.

In a way, I kind of think that we are worse off as a society having made computers more toy-like. There are simply too many idoitic people doing idiotic things with their computers, not prepared for any sort of responsibility, and/or putting too much power in the hands of users who, in a perfect world, would need a license to operate their computers

Hey, switching between OS X and Windows (in Parallels) by smacking the MacBook on the side of the screen is SERIOUS stuff! (SmackBook).

SirCastor · Aug 2, 2006, 07:17 PM

Was there really a time when you couldn't actually get a mac online at all? That is to say, a time when machines running Windows whatever were access the 'internet' (not quite the same back then...) and Macs were completely unable to? (Of course there was a time when no desktop computers were getting online...)

Chuckit · 07:48 PM

Macs have had pretty easy access to the Internet since before Windows 95 came out, as I recall.

Salty · Aug 2, 2006, 08:12 PM

Working at BB was fun. I'd have people tell me Macs couldn't do something. Then I'd turn around and do it. Costumers always thought the AirPort express was amazing.

Dork. · Aug 2, 2006, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by SirCastor

Was there really a time when you couldn't actually get a mac online at all? That is to say, a time when machines running Windows whatever were access the 'internet' (not quite the same back then...) and Macs were completely unable to? (Of course there was a time when no desktop computers were getting online...)

I seem to remember using a special "MacTCP" control panel in System 7. I don't remember whether that was there under System 6. And IIRC, early Windows machines needed winsock installed to do networking properly.

But back then, very few computers were connected to the Internet anyway. People ran BBS's, and you used your modem to call into them directly.

Apfhex · 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Dork.

I seem to remember using a special "MacTCP" control panel in System 7. I don't remember whether that was there under System 6..

I remember something like that too. Your ISP would give you a little floppy with some Control Panel to install and Mosaic 1.0 or something of that nature....

All I really remember is being about 10 years old and getting online for the first time with a IIvx running System 7 and a used 2600 baud modem

(trust me I upgraded to 28.8 ASAP... or maybe 14.4 was the fastest at the time, hmm). But the point is it was easy enough for a 10-or-so-year-old to get online on a Mac.

I don't know where the "Macs can't get on 'the' internet" myth came from but most of the people I knew in elementary and high school criticized Macs based on comparisons between their current PC and the Mac Classic or PowerBook 100 they used in 3rd grade.