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Feb 9, 2007, 09:32 AM
 
Fact is, she didn't even WANT a jumbo jet.

She ****ing wanted to fly COMMERCIAL.

Now, Marky: Let your eye sidle on up to that headline you posted up there. The bit about "Power intoxicated [sic] Pelosi DEMANDS..."

You have been ****ed in public.

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Originally Posted by Mark Larr View Post
Fact still stands, she doesn't NEED a jumbo jet.
What she NEEDS--at the request of the Sergeant-at-Arms of the House of Representatives and fully supported by the White House--is a military transport that can fly non-stop from Washington, DC to her home in California. What the military can provide that fits that need is a large jet. No one is demanding anything. She has a need for transport, the military has a plane that fits that need.

Unfortunately the military plane is much larger in size then is needed for a small contingent of people to travel--But it was the type of transport offered by the military, NOT demanded by the Speaker. What would be smart is if the military had a series of medium-sized jets that are capable of making non-stop, cross-country flights: The State Department has a couple executive-class jets that meet this qualification but apparently the military does not or it does but does not have them available for non-military use.

Anyway, you can stop frothing at the mouth with your anti-Pelosi invective. I can assure you, she will f*ck up and give us all legitimate reasons to criticize her--every politician does--but this is not one of those incidents where criticism is warranted.
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I admit to not knowing a whole lot about planes. Is there an airplane with reasonable capacity that could get from Miami, FL to Fairbanks, AK without refueling?

I ask this because if there's a plane with reasonable capacity that can get that far, that's what government officers who get their own planes should have. It's enough to get between virtually any two points in the US in one trip. I know that a 747 can get from Bangor, ME to Los Angeles, CA, which is good enough for the 48 contiguous states, but getting at least 49 would be better, as getting all 50 is probably impractical.
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Originally Posted by Mark Larr View Post
it was only personal attacks with zero substance as usual.
This sounds like a very good summary of the OP.
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Originally Posted by analogika View Post
Fact is, she didn't even WANT a jumbo jet.

She ****ing wanted to fly COMMERCIAL.

Now, Marky: Let your eye sidle on up to that headline you posted up there. The bit about "Power intoxicated [sic] Pelosi DEMANDS..."

You have been ****ed in public.

Please insert coin.
Just want part of this did you fail to comprehend?

Pelosi and the Defense Department are discussing letting her fly in a C-32 plane, a military version of the Boeing 757-200
Looks NON-COMMERCIAL to me.
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The true hypocracy of the left is coming to light with her elitist desires.]
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Originally Posted by Mark Larr View Post
Just want part of this did you fail to comprehend?



Looks NON-COMMERCIAL to me.
Perhaps it was the part where the Bush administration had started providing the Republican Speaker of the House with military transport after 9/11 and Pelosi had declined, saying she would prefer to fly commercial, but Republicans like yourself somehow turned that into "Pelosi DEMANDS..." something she didn't demand?
     
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Originally Posted by Mark Larr View Post
Just want part of this did you fail to comprehend?



Looks NON-COMMERCIAL to me.
I don't think you're paying attention. According to the article, they were going to give her a plane that couldn't make the trip in one flight. She said, "No thanks, I'll fly commercial. I don't want long stopovers." They said, "Hang on, don't do that. We'll find something else." And that's where your "NON-COMMERCIAL" plane came in.
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Feb 9, 2007, 12:30 PM
 
To add insult to injury:

"The White House also stood behind Pelosi.

"As speaker of the House, she is entitled to military transport and ... the proper arrangements are being made between the Sergeant of Arms Office in the House of Representatives and the U.S. Department of Defense," White House spokesman Tony Snow said.

"We think it's appropriate," he added. "And so, again, I think this is much ado about not a whole lot. It is important for the speaker to have this kind of protection and travel.""

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/...ane/index.html
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Feb 9, 2007, 01:12 PM
 
That might be the case but she also wants it for family members. That's an abuse of power.
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Originally Posted by typoon View Post
That might be the case but she also wants it for family members. That's an abuse of power.
I don't think that's true. Linkage please?
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I don't think that's true. Linkage please?
I'll have to find the link for you. It's interesting though that this big "proponent" of the global warming fraud is herself an owner of an SUV and is flying in Jets military or Otherwise.
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She said she PAY for her family members to fly, at the rate to be determined by the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct, at a rate no less then unrestricted coach fare for airfare and for all meals and incidental expenses. Her husband is excluded from paying when he is along for official protocol purposes.

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Originally Posted by Mark Larr View Post
No smackdown.

You're delusional, it was only personal attacks with zero substance as usual.

Fact still stands, she doesn't NEED a jumbo jet.
Fact is you made a thread title enormously misleading and got called on it, you might want a rear-view mirror for all that backpedaling you are doing.

Do you take your partisan blinders off when you go to bed at night? Just wondering...
     
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Feb 9, 2007, 02:18 PM
 
This is the kind of partisan bullsh*t that I hoped people would finally be getting over.

Isn't it supposed to be the liberals that use emotion to rule thier judgement?

It's too bad you let your hatred of anyone that isn't a right winger blind your ability to read clearly or think rationally.
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In retrospect I should have known better than to post in here. Mark Larr is known for his partisan crap. It's his 'persona' on here.
     
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Is it standard to just ignore things that don't coincide with what you believe?

Bill Livingood, sergeant-at-arms, said in a statement that the practice began with Mr. Hastert, and that he requested that Mrs. Pelosi receive similar security travel arrangements, and that he was the one who asked for her travel to be on nonstop flights. “I regret that an issue that is exclusively considered and decided in a security context has evolved into a political issue,'’ Mr. Livingood said.
Did you just skip this part?
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Originally Posted by Dakar² View Post
In retrospect I should have known better than to post in here. Mark Larr is known for his partisan crap. It's his 'persona' on here.
It's really a shame.
That you haven't derailed this thread yet.
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It's really a shame.
That you haven't derailed this thread yet.
It's a reality of the PL I often times forget. Lot's of people in here are 'personas'

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It's a reality of the PL I often times forget. Lot's of people in here are 'personas'

*by personas, I mean not interested in real debate as much as entertainment
You're right, and some of these people are so shallow that they think what they're doing is entertainment.
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*cue 'what a bunch of whiners' comment
     
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Where are the moderators? Ban this idiot and lock the thread.
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That might be the case but she also wants it for family members. That's an abuse of power.
What would you call lying to start a war?

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This is the kind of partisan bullsh*t that I hoped people would finally be getting over.
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*cue 'what a bunch of whiners' comment
Hehee...
     
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I don't think you're paying attention. According to the article, they were going to give her a plane that couldn't make the trip in one flight. She said, "No thanks, I'll fly commercial. I don't want long stopovers." They said, "Hang on, don't do that. We'll find something else." And that's where your "NON-COMMERCIAL" plane came in.
Power intoxicated Pelosi DEMANDS non-stop travel between work and home and prefers to use one plane rather than two
     
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Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
Power intoxicated Pelosi DEMANDS non-stop travel between work and home and prefers to use one plane rather than two
Power intoxicated Pelosi DEMANDS a choice of chicken, fish, or vegetarian meal options on said flights (and the WHOLE can of soda!).

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"White House supports Pelosi meals on cross-continental flights"
     
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"Intoxicated Pelosi arrested after trying to skyjack Jumbo jet to Cuba."

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This whole stink couldn't possibly have been engineered by some upset Republicrooks, could it?

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...09/9pelosi.htm
     
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*yawn* useless bullcrap. True, true.

But don't get too far up on a high horse, Democrats and leftists.

Welcome to the MIRROR.

This is exactly the sort of non-issue BULLCRAP we've all had to listen to you folks brown your panties over, every other SECOND, for six+ friggen years now.

However annoyed any of you were by this thread, that's been your own effect on everyone else times about ten million.
     
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Originally Posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE View Post
*yawn* useless bullcrap. True, true.

But don't get too far up on a high horse, Democrats and leftists.

Welcome to the MIRROR.

This is exactly the sort of non-issue BULLCRAP we've all had to listen to you folks brown your panties over, every other SECOND, for six+ friggen years now.
Very true.

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No, I think he is referring to the Abramoff scandal. Or perhaps Iraq.

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This whole stink couldn't possibly have been engineered by some upset Republicrooks, could it?
And the gullible Republican base eats it right up. These guys still think Saddam was behind 9/11.
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Originally Posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE View Post
*yawn* useless bullcrap. True, true.

But don't get too far up on a high horse, Democrats and leftists.

Welcome to the MIRROR.

This is exactly the sort of non-issue BULLCRAP we've all had to listen to you folks brown your panties over, every other SECOND, for six+ friggen years now.
The primary complaint of the Democrats (and, y'know, most of the country) for the past several years has been the war in Iraq. While some people are figuratively up in arms about Pelosi's plane request, I don't think any actual wars have been started over it.
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The primary complaint of the Democrats (and, y'know, most of the country) for the past several years has been the war in Iraq. While some people are figuratively up in arms about Pelosi's plane request, I don't think any actual wars have been started over it.
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Originally Posted by analogika View Post
Very true.

We've been whining about election results that didn't go our way, making up dippy conspiracy theories, browning our shorts over what Bush did for 7 minutes and how and when he's been on vacation, blaming him for everything from hurricanes to global warming, pretending all our rights are gone every time we manufacture our own crisis, for YEARS.
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The primary tactic of the Democrats for the past several years has been to be against whatever Bush was for, except when they were for it, before they were against it. (Like the Iraq war).
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Yeah that's right, you have haven't you.
How many dead?
     
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How many dead?
From liberal obstruction, complacency, blame shifting, useful-idiocy, cutting dictators/criminals/terrorists slack while road-blocking those that fight them?

Geeze, who knows?
     
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You didn't answer my question.
     
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Originally Posted by analogika View Post
You didn't answer my question.
The point flew over your head like Nancy Pelosi’s jumbo jet. You’ve been whining about a lot of petty, TRIVIAL, BULLCRAP. Stuff that isn’t life of death, or even all that important. So your question is –as usual- asinine. How many people died because you whined about what Bush did for 7 minutes, or beat a dead horse for years over an election result you didn’t like, or pretented your rights were taken away, or some conspiracy theory or any other bunch of trivial bullcrap? Probably about as many as have died because Nancy Pelosi flew in a jumbo jet rather than a smaller plane.

Granted, people probably have died because Democrats did things like sit around and whine at Bush and make up conspiracy theories rather than use local resources to rescue people (Katrina, prime example), and like I said, who knows how many, but that kind of thing wasn’t really my point.
     
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Originally Posted by Dakar² View Post
In retrospect I should have known better than to post in here. Mark Larr is known for his partisan crap. It's his 'persona' on here.
You are known for only posting personal attacks.

Your usual crap.

You can now fade into irrelevance.
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You are known for only posting personal attacks.
And you're known for provoking them. I admit you got me to do it once, and I did apologize.

Originally Posted by Mark Larr View Post
Your usual crap.

You can now fade into irrelevance.
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Corrected.
Not to say that many Democrats weren't on the Lucrative-Contracts-in-Iraq bandwagon, but it would've helped if Bush & Co. wasn't selling a war on false terms.

Some were for the war when Bush & Co. claimed Iraq was an iminent threat. That support waivored when it was obvious there was no immediate threat. The support then failed when most of the contracts failed and it was obvious no one was going to make money off the war before the end of Bush's second term (with the exception of defense contractors.)
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Originally Posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE View Post
The point flew over your head like Nancy Pelosi’s jumbo jet. You’ve been whining about a lot of petty, TRIVIAL, BULLCRAP. Stuff that isn’t life of death, or even all that important.
Please complain to me about stuff *I* said.

And answer my question - or don't, I guess.
     
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Hey, the OP is back!
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Originally Posted by analogika View Post
Please complain to me about stuff *I* said.

And answer my question - or don't, I guess.
Even though your question wasn't relevant, it was answered. Pay attention.
"Probably about as many as have died because Nancy Pelosi flew in a jumbo jet rather than a smaller plane."
     
 
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