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nickw311
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Nov 20, 2007, 05:48 PM
 


Why does it take up 1 icon space to tell me that there is 1 more program available?

Why not just show me that 1 program.

grrrr...
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Nov 20, 2007, 06:36 PM
 
I love the dock, but don't get the Grid view. Instead, I should be able to use the scroll wheel of my mouse to scroll through the contents of the folder in "Fan" view.
     
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Nov 20, 2007, 06:46 PM
 
Because it would need 2 more icons: one for that app and one to open the folder in Finder.
     
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Nov 20, 2007, 07:18 PM
 
Its not prefect, it needs to wrap over item titles too.
     
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Nov 20, 2007, 08:34 PM
 
Why does the Dock not just open the window in the Finder for that folder, and use the standard finder views? Why add yet-another-view (and an awful one at that - whats with all the '...' everywhere)?
     
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Nov 20, 2007, 08:43 PM
 
Originally Posted by slpdLoad View Post
Instead, I should be able to use the scroll wheel of my mouse to scroll through the contents of the folder in "Fan" view.
That would be cool.
( Last edited by ghporter; Nov 20, 2007 at 09:16 PM. Reason: Fixed the quote - you left out a ']')
     
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Nov 20, 2007, 11:15 PM
 
I actually like the grid view, but I'm in the minority on that one.

If fan view could scroll I may have given it a chance, but it would still be more work to scroll through than to just have the majority of my apps show up in grid view (and downloads and documents)

But like the idea of having fan view scrollable, if grid view could do the same, then there would be no problem with 1 app (or a few apps) being outside its maximum available space.
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Nov 20, 2007, 11:19 PM
 
Originally Posted by nickw311 View Post
Why does it take up 1 icon space to tell me that there is 1 more program available?
Why not just show me that 1 program.
grrrr...
Because then there wouldn't be a link to open the folder in the Finder.

Originally Posted by moonmonkey View Post
Its not prefect, it needs to wrap over item titles too.
If you hover the mouse over them they show the full title.
     
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Nov 21, 2007, 12:56 AM
 
What would be real nice, is if Apple or someone would bring back the ability to go deeper than one level when clicking on a folder in grid view. Aside from that and a few other quirks, the new dock in 2D mode suits me fine.


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Nov 21, 2007, 01:24 AM
 
Maybe if you remove that stray package in there that would sort it out for you

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Nov 21, 2007, 11:02 AM
 
Originally Posted by slpdLoad View Post
I love the dock, but don't get the Grid view. Instead, I should be able to use the scroll wheel of my mouse to scroll through the contents of the folder in "Fan" view.
Yikes, that's a shockingly simple and good idea.
     
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Nov 21, 2007, 11:09 AM
 
I guess most people don't take the time to organize their Applications folder. But I agree with the OP, of course.

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Nov 21, 2007, 01:14 PM
 
Originally Posted by silver View Post
What would be real nice, is if Apple or someone would bring back the ability to go deeper than one level when clicking on a folder in grid view. Aside from that and a few other quirks, the new dock in 2D mode suits me fine.
Here y'are! HierarchicalDock. It's not quite what you're after but I'm sure a few people here will appreciate it.
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Nov 21, 2007, 02:10 PM
 
Thanks Geobunny, that's a close second to what I was looking for. What I was really looking for is a way so that, when I click on a folder while in grid view a finder windows doesn't open up instead the folder is opened in grid view also.

Earlier beta builds of Leopard had this feature, e.g. click on stacked applications folder- grid view opens showing contents of folder - click on utilities folder - grid view opens showing contents of utilities folder. I really liked that, but sadly now when we want to drill down stacked folders in grid view a finder window opens up. If this was still implemented then imo people would have a much easier time dealing without the hierarchical menus we all loved in prior OS X releases.

Here's to hoping that we can turn it back on in some hidden .plist.
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Nov 23, 2007, 01:13 PM
 
I would love to get rid of the dock look and go withthe "clear dock" look I had with Tiger with usiong "Unsanity Clear Dock" which when I last looked, it was not working with Leopard. The new dock looks nice but don't care for the reflection of windows in the dock.
     
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Nov 23, 2007, 02:05 PM
 
You know you can change it to a 2D dock, right?

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Nov 24, 2007, 01:03 PM
 
Originally Posted by silver View Post
Thanks Geobunny, that's a close second to what I was looking for. What I was really looking for is a way so that, when I click on a folder while in grid view a finder windows doesn't open up instead the folder is opened in grid view also.

Earlier beta builds of Leopard had this feature, e.g. click on stacked applications folder- grid view opens showing contents of folder - click on utilities folder - grid view opens showing contents of utilities folder. I really liked that, but sadly now when we want to drill down stacked folders in grid view a finder window opens up. If this was still implemented then imo people would have a much easier time dealing without the hierarchical menus we all loved in prior OS X releases.

Here's to hoping that we can turn it back on in some hidden .plist.
I have that same problem. I wish that when I clicked on a folder in fan view it would fan out again on the side. I don't like opening a finder window.

Maybe it will be added later.
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Nov 24, 2007, 04:17 PM
 
I like the Stacks feature - I find it a handy way of getting to the most recent couple of items added to a folder.
And you do know that you can drag a file out of a stack and drop it on other icons, apps, trash, etc., yes?
     
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Nov 25, 2007, 04:36 AM
 
I wish there was a Sort by... "Most used" or "Last opened" option. That would actually make the stacks more useful by keeping those things most frequently accessed on top. At least that's *one thing* Apple could have stolen from Windows XP/Vista to pay them back for all the nifty idea that have gone the opposite direction.

Having Applications as a stack is useless to me otherwise without this option -- unless I take the time to manually touch all the applications with fake modified dates in order of which ones I use most. Thank God for Quicksilver and Spotlight!

The Stacks are also just plain ugly without the "trick" of putting transparent bins in the top of every stack folder. And without being able to dig down, it promotes the bad habit of not organizing your documents folder into sub-folders, for example.

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