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Jan 8, 2008, 08:17 AM
 
Clockwise at first. If I look at the shadow, I can switch to CCW. I can switch directions by looking at the far right or left, waiting for the foot to reach that point, and then start following the circle from there.
     
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Jan 8, 2008, 11:02 AM
 
It took me a long time to figure out how to switch it from going cw, but after I figured it out I could switch it any time I wanted. The way I do it is I watch the bottom foot as it is coming around the right side (when going cw) and then imagine that instead of coming to point straight in front of the girl it instead points straight back (away from me). That will switch it every time for me. It took my wife about 15 minutes before she could switch it, but in the end she figured it out.

Very cool thing.
     
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Jan 8, 2008, 11:32 AM
 
Originally Posted by zro View Post
I can stare all day and she won't change direction until I make her.

By that I mean I tell myself, "Her leg is passing behind her" and vice versa.
Same here!
I have seen this some time ago already and it was always CCW for me (except CW for maybe a second) but today I managed to change the direction with your method and now it's CW since then...



edit: now I can change the direction just like I want it to be!
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Jan 8, 2008, 03:34 PM
 
Okay, I'm back home. I only spend one day at CES.

Most of the time, she is turning clockwise. Once in a while she turn CCW, but won't stick in that direction for long.
     
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Jan 8, 2008, 03:39 PM
 
Now I remember what I was thinking when I first read the title with my iPhone. I was thinking it was about tassels. I was looking for tassels.
     
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Jan 8, 2008, 04:26 PM
 
Did anyone here watch Mystery Science Theatre 3000, and sometimes got the feeling that Crow wasn't facing the screen, but the camera?

I think that was a somewhat similar effect, though it was much easier for me to just chose which direction he was looking in.
     
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Jan 8, 2008, 04:29 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Did anyone here watch Mystery Science Theatre 3000, and sometimes got the feeling that Crow wasn't facing the screen, but the camera?
Absolutely.

I saw this on another forum a few months ago and I believe one person mentioned they could get it to go from CCW to CW by trying to do some math in their head.
     
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Jan 8, 2008, 04:50 PM
 
By focusing on her outstretched hand and just thinking which direction I wanted she would follow. So I guess that just makes me a controlling bastard.
     
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Jan 8, 2008, 04:59 PM
 
Guys. It's already been solved. Cover the top half or bottom half of her to make her spin different directions.
     
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Jan 8, 2008, 05:44 PM
 
Originally Posted by vintage View Post
Guys. It's already been solved. Cover the top half or bottom half of her to make her spin different directions.
Uh, no. That doesn't work at all for me. She spins cw for me on the top or the bottom unless I force it the other way.
     
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Jan 10, 2008, 03:02 PM
 
Resolutely Clockwise for me. Tried and tried for CCW, but no joy.
     
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Jan 10, 2008, 03:43 PM
 
Started as anti-clockwise but can change it almost instantly. Takes about one turn to see it the other way.

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Jan 10, 2008, 04:01 PM
 
I just want to point out that perception of this has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with being "left-brained" or "right-brained."
     
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Jan 10, 2008, 04:41 PM
 
What do you base that statement on BRussell?
     
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Jan 10, 2008, 05:57 PM
 
It just makes no sense. I'm a cognitive psychologist and I've never heard of any relationship like that, and it's not consistent with what I do know, like the fact that there really is no such thing as a "left-brained" or "right-brained" person, and that hemispheric specialization has nothing to do with perception of ambiguous figures or depth perception anyway. Cool illusion though.
     
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Jan 10, 2008, 06:04 PM
 
...there really is no such thing as a "left-brained" or "right-brained" person, and that hemispheric specialization has nothing to do with...
Don’t these two statements kind of contradict each other? Isn’t a ‘left-brained’ or ‘right-brained’ person just someone who’s hemispherically specialised to different parts of their brain?
     
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Jan 10, 2008, 06:14 PM
 
Originally Posted by BRussell View Post
It just makes no sense. I'm a cognitive psychologist ...
Researcher or therapist?
     
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Jan 10, 2008, 06:17 PM
 
Originally Posted by Oisín View Post
Don’t these two statements kind of contradict each other? Isn’t a ‘left-brained’ or ‘right-brained’ person just someone who’s hemispherically specialised to different parts of their brain?
Hemispheric specialization is a widely-accepted characteristic of the brain - that some functions are more in one half than the other for most people, e.g., that the language centers are in the left. But it's not widely accepted, in fact it's widely rejected, that people who are more creative or more mathematical or whatever have a brain which has one half that is bigger or more active or anything like that.
     
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Jan 10, 2008, 06:22 PM
 
Originally Posted by lpkmckenna View Post
Researcher or therapist?
Researcher (cognitive psychology isn't a clinical area).
     
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Jan 10, 2008, 06:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by BRussell View Post
Researcher (cognitive psychology isn't a clinical area).
Huh? What about cognitive therapy? Isn't Beck a cognitive psychologist?

I think this is a nomenclature confusion (on my part, no doubt).
     
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Jan 10, 2008, 06:52 PM
 
Originally Posted by BRussell View Post
Hemispheric specialization is a widely-accepted characteristic of the brain - that some functions are more in one half than the other for most people, e.g., that the language centers are in the left. But it's not widely accepted, in fact it's widely rejected, that people who are more creative or more mathematical or whatever have a brain which has one half that is bigger or more active or anything like that.
That’s interesting. What are the alternative theories, then (if you can sketch them without going technical on us)? I would have thought it only too logical that, for example, in a language person, the part of the brain that deals with language acquisition and such things should be more dominant than in someone who’s not a language person. But then again, there’s a reason I’m a language person and not a cognitive psychologist
     
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Jan 10, 2008, 08:29 PM
 
ccw at first - then cw after a bit - nice nipple too - classy

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Jan 10, 2008, 11:04 PM
 
A significant amount of evidence shows that some areas are more active in certain activities than other areas, but to say broadly that one hemisphere is "creative" while the other is "logical" is a gross exaggeration.

I'd also note that cognitive therapy IS clinical, but it's almost always combined with some other approach. Notable is cognitive-behavioral therapy; the therapist helps the patient learn to de-condition himself through becoming more aware of his thought patterns and practices. I'm not sure what BRussell means by saying that cognitive psychology is not clinical...

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Jan 11, 2008, 12:10 AM
 
She starts CCW for me, but I can control which direction I see her spinning entirely.
     
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Jan 11, 2008, 12:16 AM
 
I don't even understand what people are talking about anymore.
     
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Jan 11, 2008, 12:24 AM
 
The thread title is misleading, I was hoping to see something with tassels.
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Jan 11, 2008, 12:31 AM
 
If I think of a unicorn doing algebra she comes to a screeching halt.
     
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Jan 11, 2008, 09:12 AM
 
Originally Posted by TheoCryst View Post
It's always clockwise for me. I've seen this a million times, and it's NEVER been ccw for more than a few moments. Lame.
Same here on every point. Lame.
     
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Jan 11, 2008, 10:17 AM
 
Originally Posted by lpkmckenna View Post
Huh? What about cognitive therapy? Isn't Beck a cognitive psychologist?

I think this is a nomenclature confusion (on my part, no doubt).
Cognitive therapy has nothing to do with the field of cognitive psychology, except in the broadest possible sense of dealing with cognition or thinking. Cognitive psychologists can't be licensed as therapists. Beck I believe was a physician. But this is quite a thread killer...
     
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Jan 11, 2008, 10:36 AM
 
Originally Posted by Oisín View Post
That’s interesting. What are the alternative theories, then (if you can sketch them without going technical on us)? I would have thought it only too logical that, for example, in a language person, the part of the brain that deals with language acquisition and such things should be more dominant than in someone who’s not a language person. But then again, there’s a reason I’m a language person and not a cognitive psychologist
I think part of the problem is that there's this odd discrepancy: Although brain regions for some different functions have been identified for people in general (e.g., language on the left), greater specialization in a particular individual is not associated with greater ability in that individual.

That's probably because every function involves both hemispheres, and so it stands to reason that the more active both halves are simultaneously, the more effective an individual should be. That's not really consistent with the idea that creative people are right-brained or mathematical people are left-brained. Instead, highly creative people probably show more action in both halves than less creative people, and same with highly verbal people or whatever.

An example: women tend to have both better verbal skills and less hemispheric specialization than men. If the left-brain language regions are damaged (e.g., in a stroke), women tend to get back language ability faster than men, because their right brains take up the slack. So again, even though the language centers are on the left, being too left-brained in language functions may not be a good thing.
     
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Jan 11, 2008, 03:26 PM
 
That makes very good sense, thanks for the clarification
     
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Jan 11, 2008, 03:32 PM
 
Weird. Girl spins clockwise for me until I read the text. Then I can catch her spining anticlockwise but as soon as my attention moves back to her then she starts spinning clockwise again.

Someone should do a poll to see which way Mac users see her compared to PC users.

Mac user: "I'm a creative and individual personality. I see the lady spinning clockwise

PC user: What lady. All I got is a blue screen. Anyone got IT supports pager number.
     
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Jan 11, 2008, 06:59 PM
 
Originally Posted by BRussell View Post
Cognitive therapy has nothing to do with the field of cognitive psychology, except in the broadest possible sense of dealing with cognition or thinking. Cognitive psychologists can't be licensed as therapists. Beck I believe was a physician. But this is quite a thread killer...
I think I see your point-what you are calling "cognitive psychologists" are theorists in cognition, not therapists at all, right? (Just to clarify so people don't think we're going on about gibberish...)

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Jan 11, 2008, 07:56 PM
 
If you concentrate carefully you will see she is wearing the next generation iPhone
     
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Jan 11, 2008, 09:27 PM
 
ccw...and i can see it cw then back but i need to work on it...tough

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