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Jul 10, 2008, 07:31 AM
 
In light of the recent announcement that 600 Starbucks would be closing ... is one closing near you? Two in my area are closing, including the one I frequent most. ;-(
     
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Jul 10, 2008, 07:33 AM
 
Starbucks tests promotions across US: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance
"SEATTLE (AP) -- Starbucks Corp. is testing several types of promotions in stores across the country, a move it hopes will help counter the decline in domestic store traffic that led to a decision to close 600 stores."
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080709/starb...romotions.html
     
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Jul 10, 2008, 07:49 AM
 
Starbucks is hugely overpriced, so I wouldn't be surprised if they'd have to close some of their stores. They don't do that here afaict though.
     
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Jul 10, 2008, 07:58 AM
 
If I am lucky, all of the Starbucks nearby would be closing. High prices and coffee that claims to be fair trade, but isn't.
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Jul 10, 2008, 09:51 AM
 
Nope. I guess we have a lot of people patronizing the ones in my area.
     
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Jul 10, 2008, 09:55 AM
 
Nope, they are opening them here as fast as they can build them. Over 100 now in HK alone.
     
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Jul 10, 2008, 09:59 AM
 
Luckily, we don't have that many starbucks in my area in brooklyn. One of the few places in the world where there are actually non-Starbucks coffee shops that are much nicer and fun to be in. Does Starbucks have free wifi yet? Last time I was in there they wanted $10 for access so I never went back. Most of the other places are free and its pretty sad at this point not to have free wifi in a coffee shop.
     
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Jul 10, 2008, 10:01 AM
 
Unfortunately, we have only 3 starbucks's in the Netherlands, all at Amsterdam airport. Nike has a starbucks in their office too, but it's only for employees.

I like starbucks coffee. They have cinnamon.
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Jul 10, 2008, 10:04 AM
 
Originally Posted by TETENAL View Post
Starbucks is hugely overpriced.
I don't get all those funky coffees that have names I cannot prononuce but I do buy a medium black and the cost of that coffee is less then what I pay at Dunkin Donuts.

I agree that starbucks is for the most part over priced and they're now feeling the pinch of a slowing economy. People are less willing to spend 4+ dollars for a cup of joe but they're not completely over-priced.
     
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Jul 10, 2008, 10:46 AM
 
My closest "Starbucks" isn't closing, it's in my kitchen, and I'm the barista.

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Jul 10, 2008, 10:54 AM
 
In fact they appear to be opening a new one near me. Bear in mind, there are already two within two blocks of this new one.
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Jul 10, 2008, 11:54 AM
 
I have been to Starbucks less than five times in my life. And only because they were the only places available within a walking distance and I didn't have a car with me.

For this reason it is good that a few stores are closing. It will allow competition to enter certain markets.
     
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Jul 10, 2008, 12:49 PM
 
Good riddance to over-priced and over-hyped coffee.

Vende machiado?

I just want a f**kin coffee fer christ-sakes.
     
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Jul 10, 2008, 01:15 PM
 
Thank god. I'm not sure if they'll be closing in Canada yet, but I wouldn't be surprised.. i'd much prefer Tim Horton's coffee anyway. Starbucks tastes burnt.
     
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Jul 10, 2008, 01:19 PM
 
One just opened in my town around August last year. The only time I've been in one is at a Barnes & Noble, which I think is excusable.
     
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Jul 10, 2008, 01:26 PM
 
I have six within ten minutes of my house and two are closing. Like we really needed all of them.
     
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Jul 10, 2008, 01:59 PM
 
Seems like the ones around here are staying open. I have one about 300 yards from my work that I hope keeps on keepin' on.
     
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Jul 10, 2008, 02:16 PM
 
There are three within 5 minutes of my home. I love their espresso, hate the stores, so I wouldn't mind seeing one of these close (especially the one with the snotty manager and dipstick employees).
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Jul 10, 2008, 02:29 PM
 
There are five within a ten minute walk of my home (one a whole block north of me) and I doubt any of them are closing.
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Jul 10, 2008, 03:07 PM
 
Originally Posted by benville View Post
i'd much prefer Tim Horton's coffee anyway.
I wish there were more Tim Horton's in the US.

And more Dunkin Donuts in the rural Midwest.

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Jul 10, 2008, 03:13 PM
 
The odd thing is that Tim Horton's dominates Rhode Island but there are none in Mass.
     
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Jul 10, 2008, 04:00 PM
 
Actually, Sonic's java chillers are pretty much the best coffee-based drink that I've had in a long time.
     
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Jul 10, 2008, 10:02 PM
 
I doubt that. It seems like most of them are located in the East coast. I kinda agree as Starbucks coffee in NYC tasted like crap compared to those in the Seattle area. There is no Dunkin' Donuts Coffee or Coffee Bean in this area, so pretty much Starbucks, Tully's, Seattle Best Coffee (owned by SBUX), and a couple Peet's stores.
     
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Jul 10, 2008, 10:27 PM
 
Who cares. (OK, I know some of you do, but not sure why)

The good news is that we will be getting our first Tim Hortons soon, and it is on my way to work.
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Jul 10, 2008, 11:25 PM
 
Who cares? Just go to the one two blocks over.

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Jul 10, 2008, 11:30 PM
 
Sorry for the dumb question - how do you know which stores are closing? I go once every week or two - not necessarily to the same store. Haven't seen any signs or anything in the past couple weeks.
     
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Jul 10, 2008, 11:31 PM
 
Originally Posted by Kenneth View Post
I doubt that. It seems like most of them are located in the East coast. I kinda agree as Starbucks coffee in NYC tasted like crap compared to those in the Seattle area. There is no Dunkin' Donuts Coffee or Coffee Bean in this area, so pretty much Starbucks, Tully's, Seattle Best Coffee (owned by SBUX), and a couple Peet's stores.
Mmmmm...Peet's. There are a couple in Chicago - unfortunately nowhere near me...
     
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Jul 11, 2008, 12:03 AM
 
Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
Good riddance to over-priced and over-hyped coffee.

Vende machiado?

I just want a f**kin coffee fer christ-sakes.
I'm with sek.

In East Asia, people only drink coffee with mountains of whipped cream and caramel sauce and fuçkin' chocolate sprinkles and vanilla essence so that when you go in to ask for a black espresso they're like, and have to call the manager out to explain.

And I'm not kidding.

I hate Starbucks. This is karma for their crap and overpriced coffee and tacky cafes full of pseudo-art and sham atmospheric music.
     
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Jul 11, 2008, 12:07 AM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
I wish there were more Tim Horton's in the US.

And more Dunkin Donuts in the rural Midwest.

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Tim Horton's had the distinct honor of being the entity that brought the emerald ash beetle into mid Michigan when they built a store in Owosso, Michigan. All ash trees within 10 miles had to be cut down and burned.
     
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Jul 11, 2008, 12:45 AM
 
Originally Posted by Tiresias View Post
I hate Starbucks. This is karma for their crap and overpriced coffee and tacky cafes full of pseudo-art and sham atmospheric music.
But how do you really feel?

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Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
Tim Horton's had the distinct honor of being the entity that brought the emerald ash beetle into mid Michigan when they built a store in Owosso, Michigan. All ash trees within 10 miles had to be cut down and burned.
There's a price to be paid for good coffee, for sure.

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Jul 11, 2008, 02:48 AM
 
Well, I live next to the Third Street Promenade in Santa Monica where there is literally a Starbucks on every corner for four blocks.

Something tells me they could afford to lose a couple, or three.
     
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Jul 11, 2008, 02:52 AM
 
I'm not a regular coffee drinker so I don't have a Starbucks that I call my own. As long as some are here and there, that's cool. They do serve a purpose. And it's not like all the closed down stores are going to be bought out by mom and pop java joints anyways.

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Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
there's a price to be paid for good coffee, for sure.

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Jul 12, 2008, 01:39 PM
 
How's Starbucks coffee overpriced? They might set the price *benchmark*, but other coffee places charge more or about the same as Starbucks.
     
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Jul 12, 2008, 01:51 PM
 
Yeah, generally in my experience, cheaper coffee (at least in Washington) is pretty much terrible. And Starbucks isn't as expensive as Cutter's Point.
     
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Jul 12, 2008, 05:01 PM
 
Timmy's is way better and cheaper.
     
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Jul 12, 2008, 05:19 PM
 
There are two in the mall I work in, and they're both doing fine.
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Jul 12, 2008, 06:54 PM
 
I go to two different stores relatively regularly, one about 3 miles from home and one near school (not IN school-that's a different chain). They're both in good locations and they're both doing well.

As for "overpriced," when you just look at brewed coffee prices by similar cup sizes, Starbucks is very competitive with places like McDonalds, Seattle's Best, and just about any other place you can get brewed coffee, and I think their coffee is much better than McDonalds' (and on a par but different from Seattle's Best). Fancy coffee drinks and "not-coffee" drinks are NOT coffee, and so it's hard to say "they price their coffee too high" if you're just looking at mochas and lattes.

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Originally Posted by Kenneth View Post
How's Starbucks coffee overpriced? They might set the price *benchmark*, but other coffee places charge more or about the same as Starbucks.
I need to get out more, I have never seen coffee more expensive than Starbucks.
     
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Jul 12, 2008, 09:56 PM
 
I'm still laughing over people calling Tim Horton's coffee "good." I mean, I have a large regular Tim's pretty much every morning, but I fully recognize that it's **** coffee that tastes like water. It's so popular in Canada only because it's got a bland, generic taste that anyone who doesn't like coffee can enjoy (see: the double-double in a medium coffee, yech).

McDonald's actually has pretty good coffee to be honest. Much better than Timmy's anyway. Very tasty, considering the price and location.

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Originally Posted by ShortcutToMoncton View Post
McDonald's actually has pretty good coffee to be honest. Much better than Timmy's anyway. Very tasty, considering the price and location.
Nah, McD is a hit or miss. No consistency. Every once in a while, it's good, but you never know.

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Jul 13, 2008, 05:10 AM
 
I don't really care. I have one of these.


     
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I buy Caribou whole beans - grind them and brew them at home. never been a huge fan of starbucks.

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Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
Nah, McD is a hit or miss. No consistency. Every once in a while, it's good, but you never know.

-t
That depends on the restaurant, not the chain's capability. Mickey D's coffee in consistent restaurants is consistently above average (and WAY above average "office coffee"), but if you frequent a franchise that isn't 100% consistent with everything, it's most likely that something like coffee will be the first casualty.

I visit Starbucks for coffee when I'm not at home. School days are a biggie—I have a cup at home, and then pick up another at the Starbucks near campus. But the point is that I don't depend on them for my coffee. I pay a premium for Gevalia coffee, which, if brewed with moderate care and attention (clean coffee maker, right proportions, filtered water) is really, really good stuff. That's what I drink daily, and the quality of the brew is all up to me (or my wife), not some corporate formula that says "stronger is better" or something like that. I like Seattle's Best a lot too, and when I start my first internship in the fall, I'll be getting my second cup from a Seattle's Best kiosk at the hospital I'll be working at. Similar prices, very good coffee, very conveniently located.
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Jul 13, 2008, 12:32 PM
 
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Jul 13, 2008, 12:59 PM
 
there a two on the same intersection and another one a mile down the road on the same street. There are another two in a Fry's(Kroger's) and a Safeway in the same vicinity. There was one in an Albertson's that closed. There is a Starbucks and an Einstein's Bagels next door to each other in the same parking lot
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MobileMe closed my Starbucks.

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Jul 13, 2008, 10:57 PM
 
I would love to invest on a solid espresso machine at home. Right now, I have a Senseo and a no-frills espresso machine. The thing is most of the time I am not at home, so I just cannot fully unitize a proper espresso machine.

Coffee at work is okie, but I always enjoy taking a walk to Starbucks and get something else.

Starbucks also begins to offer more promitions.
     
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