[Surfer]

OK, now that the non beta version is out lets start re-submitting all those powerbook (and ibook) benchmarks using Xbench 1.0.

[claughery]

when did this come out?

[Paso]

So lets begin with new round of benchmarks!

Something strange though, please compare my results from Xbench 1.0 to the former 1.0b3! Can someone explain this, or test his 1GHz Ti?
Btw: 40GB HD, Combo, 1GB RAM, stopped nearly all user processes.

New Results:

Results 81.99
System Info
Xbench Version 1.0
System Version 10.2.3
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Model PowerBook3,5
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.00 GHz
Version 7455 (Apollo) v3.2
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 256K @ 667 MHz
L3 Cache 1024K @ 134 MHz
Bus Frequency 134 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV250M9
Drive Type TOSHIBA MK4021GAS
CPU Test 112.95
GCD Recursion 117.43 4.59 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 112.60 379.53 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 105.52 5.73 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 117.07 5.26 Mops/sec
Thread Test 64.95
Computation 63.87 514.57 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 66.07 829.28 Klocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 106.15
System 118.69
Allocate 223.34 75.30 Kalloc/sec
Fill 185.54 1063.96 MB/sec
Copy 64.90 324.48 MB/sec
Stream 96.01
Copy 95.92 419.46 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 96.48 420.94 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 96.66 439.81 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 94.99 417.37 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 121.85
Line 126.89 3.23 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 120.65 8.49 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 135.51 3.12 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 120.07 1.30 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 109.21 1.78 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 101.37
Spinning Squares 101.37 70.93 frames/sec
User Interface Test 109.90
Elements 109.90 37.39 refresh/sec
Disk Test 40.76
Sequential 48.69
Uncached Write 40.16 17.52 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 42.41 17.25 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 111.11 17.50 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 40.54 17.49 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 35.05
Uncached Write 25.04 0.38 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 37.35 8.57 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 40.56 0.26 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 43.94 8.61 MB/sec [256K blocks]


OLD results:

Results 101.53
System Info
Xbench Version 1.0b3
System Version 10.2.3
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Processor PowerPC,G4@0 [1000 MHz]
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
Bus Frequency 134 MHz
CPU Test 112.88
GCD Recursion 101.21 3.95 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 117.76 396.90 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 112.84 6.12 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 119.72 5.38 Mops/sec
Thread Test 84.49
Computation 64.35 518.38 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Memory Contention 121.56 384.50 MB/sec, 2 threads
Lock Contention 67.55 847.95 Klocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 117.79
System 124.74
Allocate 123.23 64.82 Kalloc/sec
Fill 194.45 1115.03 MB/sec
Copy 56.55 339.32 MB/sec
Stream 110.85
Copy 109.00 436.00 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 109.53 438.14 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 115.65 462.62 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 109.20 436.79 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 121.77
Line 125.62 3.20 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 122.82 8.64 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 137.11 3.16 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 121.67 1.32 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 101.61 1.71 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 97.53
Spinning Squares 97.53 68.25 frames/sec
User Interface Test 117.75
Elements 117.75 37.68 refresh/sec
Disk Test 58.47
Sequential 76.45
Uncached Write 54.86 20.43 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 58.28 20.41 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 138.73 20.50 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 53.93 20.22 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 40.49
Uncached Write 39.13 0.65 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 45.16 9.39 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 28.14 0.30 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 49.54 9.54 MB/sec [256K blocks]


And I checked my Energy Settings before running Xbench: no reduced processor or something like that!
So what is wrong with these new results, or the old ones???

[Surfer]

Strange, looks like the harddisk is the one slowing it down, all other specs are very similar.

BTW, I thought the L2 cache was running at 1:1 (1GHz) and not 667Mhz??

[Patcarla]

Originally posted by Surfer:
OK, now that the non beta version is out lets start re-submitting all those powerbook (and ibook) benchmarks using Xbench 1.0.

Here are my results:

Results 89.52
System Info
Xbench Version 1.0
System Version 10.2.3
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Model PowerBook3,5
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.00 GHz
Version 7455 (Apollo) v3.2
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 256K @ 667 MHz
L3 Cache 1024K @ 134 MHz
Bus Frequency 134 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV250M9
Drive Type FUJITSU MHS2060AT
CPU Test 112.90
GCD Recursion 117.38 4.58 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 111.31 375.17 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 107.48 5.83 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 115.99 5.21 Mops/sec
Thread Test 64.45
Computation 63.43 510.99 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 65.50 822.15 Klocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 104.54
System 115.32
Allocate 213.46 71.97 Kalloc/sec
Fill 161.79 927.75 MB/sec
Copy 66.01 330.07 MB/sec
Stream 95.60
Copy 95.41 417.22 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 96.52 421.14 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 96.51 439.11 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 94.00 413.02 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 121.19
Line 127.21 3.24 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 119.57 8.41 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 132.98 3.07 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 121.24 1.32 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 107.92 1.76 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 95.01
Spinning Squares 95.01 66.49 frames/sec
User Interface Test 107.61
Elements 107.61 36.62 refresh/sec
Disk Test 61.77
Sequential 61.60
Uncached Write 55.83 24.36 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 55.72 22.67 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 95.16 14.99 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 53.87 23.24 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 61.93
Uncached Write 78.06 1.18 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 52.56 12.06 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 59.72 0.39 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 62.49 12.25 MB/sec [256K blocks]

[issa]

Surfer raises a good point. Putting aside other strange things like Xbench's returning lower than expected benchmarks for OpenGL when testing the Radeon Mobility 9000 GPU, the reporting of the L2 and L3 caches are plain wrong.

Page 24 of the Developer Note for the 1GHz TiBook clearly states the following:

Level 2 Cache
The data storage for the L2 cache consists of 256 KB of fast static RAM that is built
into the microprocessor chip along with the cache controller and tag storage. The
built-in L2 cache runs at the same clock speed as the microprocessor.

Level 3 Cache
The data storage for the L3 cache is 1 MB of DDR SRAM running at a clock speed
ratio of 5:1. The tag storage for the L3 cache is built into the microprocessor.

The L2 cache runs at 1GHz on the GigaBook, and the L3 cache runs at about 200MHz. Sounds like 1.0b8 would have been a better code for the current version of Xbench...

[Jean-Loup]

Here are my scores on a Ti 800 DVI with 512 RAM:

Results 74.99
System Info
Xbench Version 1.0
System Version 10.2.3
Physical RAM 512 MB
Model PowerBook3,4
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 800 MHz
Version 7455 (Apollo) v2.1
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 256K @ 667 MHz
L3 Cache 1024K @ 167 MHz
Bus Frequency 134 MHz
Video Card ATY,RageM7
Drive Type TOSHIBA MK4018GAS
CPU Test 91.02
GCD Recursion 94.29 3.68 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 90.60 305.36 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 86.30 4.68 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 93.31 4.19 Mops/sec
Thread Test 52.68
Computation 51.17 412.20 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 54.30 681.53 Klocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 92.96
System 85.07
Allocate 97.33 32.82 Kalloc/sec
Fill 105.24 603.48 MB/sec
Copy 64.56 322.80 MB/sec
Stream 102.47
Copy 100.66 440.18 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 101.99 444.99 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 105.38 479.50 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 101.96 448.03 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 102.76
Line 109.49 2.79 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 112.63 7.92 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 114.35 2.64 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 101.20 1.10 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 83.20 1.36 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 86.11
Spinning Squares 86.11 60.26 frames/sec
User Interface Test 91.83
Elements 91.83 31.25 refresh/sec
Disk Test 49.04
Sequential 61.54
Uncached Write 50.82 22.17 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 52.79 21.47 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 138.45 21.81 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 52.19 22.52 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 40.76
Uncached Write 24.71 0.37 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 45.46 10.43 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 53.88 0.35 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 58.42 11.45 MB/sec [256K blocks]

[Daniel Bayer]

Note the difference between the two benches.

The first test at the top of the page (Paso) is the Toshiba drive that is now standard.

The second and better score (Patcarla) is with the Fujitsu.

...bieng as I have the Toshiba drive, I will await a better drive to hit the market and install it down the road. My highest score with the beta version was a 106 with 37 GB availible on the drive.

The 1.0 version gave me a top sore of 85.6 with 32.8 GB availible on the drive.

[CyberPet]

I did notice the lower numbers too compared to the beta-version.

I was first shocked because I had done a test before I sent my PowerBook away for repair and then run a new XBench test yesterday with the now finalized version of the software. It was scary!

But then I booted up XBench 1.0b3 and got the same numbers again as the first test, so I could confirm that nothing was tampered with in the processor etc to make my PowerBook run more quiet.

XBench 1.0b3 (before and after logic board replacement)

XBench 1.0 tests (did two, one where I logged out and one rebooted)

I wonder if the finalized version is the one we should trust, even if higher numbers always look great.

[Paso]

Originally posted by Daniel Bayer:
The first test at the top of the page (Paso) is the Toshiba drive that is now standard.

The second and better score (Patcarla) is with the Fujitsu.

I was aware that i would see a speed difference comparing my 40GB Toshiba drive to the 60GB Fujitsu, but I have not thought about such a big speed difference with my own HD. During my first bench posted I had about 20GB free, now I have only 6GB left, or could this be out of some fragmentation?

[CBoldman]

Results 88.61
System Info
Xbench Version 1.0
System Version 10.2.3
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Model PowerBook3,5
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.00 GHz
Version 7455 (Apollo) v3.3
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 256K @ 1000 MHz
L3 Cache 1024K @ 200 MHz
Bus Frequency 134 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV250M9
Drive Type FUJITSU MHS2060AT
CPU Test 108.66
GCD Recursion 115.60 4.51 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 112.45 379.02 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 103.07 5.59 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 104.53 4.69 Mops/sec
Thread Test 63.61
Computation 62.26 501.59 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 65.01 816.01 Klocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 104.65
System 105.64
Allocate 156.13 52.64 Kalloc/sec
Fill 153.58 880.67 MB/sec
Copy 64.60 322.98 MB/sec
Stream 103.67
Copy 102.32 447.44 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 103.43 451.27 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 105.85 481.63 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 103.16 453.27 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 123.99
Line 123.53 3.14 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 120.08 8.45 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 136.09 3.14 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 119.89 1.30 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 121.75 1.98 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 92.93
Spinning Squares 92.93 65.03 frames/sec
User Interface Test 109.59
Elements 109.59 37.29 refresh/sec
Disk Test 60.36
Sequential 60.76
Uncached Write 55.63 24.27 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 54.28 22.08 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 96.82 15.25 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 52.35 22.58 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 59.97
Uncached Write 70.16 1.06 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 51.42 11.80 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 59.47 0.39 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 61.77 12.11 MB/sec [256K blocks]

[Paso]

Originally posted by CBoldman:
Disk Test 60.36
Sequential 60.76
Uncached Write 55.63 24.27 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 54.28 22.08 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 96.82 15.25 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 52.35 22.58 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 59.97
Uncached Write 70.16 1.06 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 51.42 11.80 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 59.47 0.39 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 61.77 12.11 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Could you please specify, which drive you have in your Ti and how much disk space is left?