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Camino Alpha with built in spell check and more is out!
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Oct 23, 2006, 02:40 PM
 
Camino 1.1 Alpha 1
Awesome, goodbye Safari I hardly knew you!
This alpha is just amazing, it hasn't crashed or let me down yet. The Camino team deserves a big pat on the back.

Other features

Feed handoff: Camino now puts a feed icon in the location bar, allowing users to hand off RSS/Atom feeds to their default feed reader.
Spell-checking: Camino now has built-in spell-checking, which is on by default for multi-line text fields.
Pop-up Blocking: Camino now blocks pop-ups by default. In addition, Camino has a brand new pop-up blocking notification which is more visible to users.
Single Window Mode: Camino can now force links that would open in new windows to open in new tabs instead.
Tab Jumpback: When closing a newly created foreground tab, Camino now jumps back to the previously selected tab if the user has not manually changed tabs.
Download Manager: A new optional toolbar icon allows users to send the selected download to the trash. In addition, two new preferences were added: one to remove successfully completed downloads automatically and one to clear the download list upon quitting Camino.
Search: Users can now resize the toolbar search field. In addition, Camino now has a new context menu option that performs a search with the selected text using the default search engine.
Menus: Camino’s menu layout has been refined, and the “Go” menu has been renamed to “History.”
Portable: Users can now specify a custom profile location, allowing Camino to be run with a profile stored on memory sticks or other portable devices.
Bookmar Bar Access: Cmd-1 through Cmd-9 are now shortcuts for opening the first 9 bookmarks or tab groups in the Bookmark Bar.
     
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Oct 23, 2006, 03:02 PM
 
Nice. Though nothing has yet to dethrone safari for me.
     
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Oct 23, 2006, 03:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by kmkkid View Post
Nice. Though nothing has yet to dethrone safari for me.
The memory leak that has always been a staple of Safari is enough reason for me to switch.
     
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Oct 23, 2006, 04:42 PM
 
I'm a Safari man, and I have not seen it leak for many versions, but I'll still get the new Camino. Many for spell check.

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Oct 23, 2006, 06:18 PM
 
Is the spell check included a version of Firefox's built-in spellchecker, or is it a tie-in to the system wide dictionary?

EDIT: It appears to be using OS X's spell check. To test it, I observed that neither Camino nor Safari objects to the word "de", while Firefox does.
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Oct 23, 2006, 06:30 PM
 
yay!

i just need to wait for the G4 optimized build now.... for my PMG4s crappy scrolling.


EDIT: building my own. If anyone wants a PPC G4 7440 optimized build of the camino beta, PM me.


I think that they should include a private browsing function in Camino, so you dont need to go to Safari to get to your porn.
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Oct 24, 2006, 01:27 AM
 
Meh, it's ok. Just like the earlier releases of Camino. It lacks the refinement of Safari and the functionality of Firefox.
     
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Oct 24, 2006, 01:45 AM
 
I run a website and the biggest problem for me with Camino is that it doesnt remember multiple passwords per website. For example, I have one password for my forums while another one for the back-end for reviews and another one for the back-end for banner advertising. Camino only remembers one user id/password per website.

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Oct 24, 2006, 02:11 AM
 
Originally Posted by TheoCryst View Post
Is the spell check included a version of Firefox's built-in spellchecker, or is it a tie-in to the system wide dictionary?

EDIT: It appears to be using OS X's spell check. To test it, I observed that neither Camino nor Safari objects to the word "de", while Firefox does.
Camino does seem to be using the OS's spelling dictionary on my machine as well.

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Originally Posted by DuckRacer1 View Post
Meh, it's ok. Just like the earlier releases of Camino. It lacks the refinement of Safari and the functionality of Firefox.
What FF functionality are you referring to? If you're talking about extensions, I don't care about those.

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Oct 24, 2006, 04:11 AM
 
IT TOOK FOUR HOURS to build camino, but i did it.

The SCROLLING IS KICK-ANUS!!!!!! - Yay! I can scroll past big pictures without the slightest drop in performance.

If anyone wants a fast build for their G4 7400, PM me.
     
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Oct 24, 2006, 04:18 AM
 
Some handy and cool new features. I would swear early Camino (Chimera) had the system spell check... Anyway, I'm a PithHelmet man.

Originally Posted by kick52 View Post
I think that they should include a private browsing function in Camino, so you dont need to go to Safari to get to your porn.
Doesn't that still save cookies?
     
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Oct 24, 2006, 04:26 AM
 
My biggest problem with Camino, which really isn't a big one but enough from keeping me using it, is that the scrolling lags a lot when openeing 10-15 tabs at once. I have a bookmark folder for mac news I open at once, and when I start scrolling (either with the trackpad, arrows or external mouse) the first tab before the others have finished loading, the scrolling is really uneven and very annoying. I have the very same problem in Firefox 2 rc3, while Safari on the other hand handles this smoothly.

Anyone else experienced the same, or know how to solve it?

I have to admit I'm a bit tired of Safari taking close to 300 megs of real memory without any windows open, but as long as Camino doesn't scroll smoothly I'll stick with Safari for the time being.
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Oct 24, 2006, 08:11 PM
 
Originally Posted by Big Mac View Post
What FF functionality are you referring to? If you're talking about extensions, I don't care about those.
Extensions, bookmarks and history in a sidebar, the Find function (Command + F) isn't nearly as good as FF, etc.
     
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Oct 24, 2006, 10:30 PM
 
Originally Posted by Abbas View Post
I run a website and the biggest problem for me with Camino is that it doesnt remember multiple passwords per website.
-a
I agree. This is one thing that Safari does well that I wish Camino would offer.
     
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Originally Posted by zro View Post
Doesn't that still save cookies?
Aparently not , in Private Browsing Mode...



How can I turn off the spelling correction in this beta?
     
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Oct 25, 2006, 09:08 AM
 
Originally Posted by Big Mac View Post
What FF functionality are you referring to? If you're talking about extensions, I don't care about those.
Camino lacks extensions whether you care or not.
     
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Nov 25, 2006, 04:26 PM
 
Is the spell checking in Camino a little quirky?

I say this because in order to "right click" for the correct spelling the cursor has to be inside the misspelled word. Anyone else see this?

I am on version number: 2006112204
     
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Nov 25, 2006, 09:51 PM
 
Meh. Nothing that Safari+SAFT doesn't have.

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Nov 25, 2006, 10:36 PM
 
Seems slower than Safari and Firefox but the spell check is nice to have. Also, the buttons and such are more mac-like, which is nice. Safari's memory leak is terrible and annoying. Right now, it is using over 180 MB of real Ram, which is crazy.
Yes, I know I could buy a PC, but why?
     
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Nov 25, 2006, 11:43 PM
 
Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - View Post
Meh. Nothing that Safari+SAFT doesn't have.
Saft always makes Safari slower and unreliable, IMO.
     
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Nov 26, 2006, 12:50 AM
 
It did have some issues, but the latest version seems rock solid to me.

I've never had any speed issues with it, there's no real reason for it to make Safari slower either.

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Nov 26, 2006, 06:24 AM
 
Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - View Post
It did have some issues, but the latest version seems rock solid to me.

I've never had any speed issues with it, there's no real reason for it to make Safari slower either.
Aside from it inserting its own code that does more into Safari? I'm not sure why you would expect that to not slow things down. Plugins like this cause a lot of grief on the webkit irc channel in terms of bug reports that people assume are Safari bugs but are actually Safari+Plugin bugs.

I'd tend to say use a browser that has the features you need built in; Firefox extensions are known to cause problems as well, although they're a bit better supported.
     
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Nov 26, 2006, 07:26 AM
 
Is there a slowdown? No.
Is it the fastest browser currently on the Mac? Yes.

Case closed.

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Nov 26, 2006, 10:10 AM
 
Safari doesn't have a memory leak. A memory leak always leads to a fatal application crash. Safari uses a lot of memory, but there's no leak.

Personally I get by with Safari and Firefox. Camino doesn't have anything that I can't get elsewhere.
     
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Nov 26, 2006, 02:59 PM
 
Originally Posted by Mastrap View Post
Safari doesn't have a memory leak.
The main issue is not a leak in the narrowest sense of the word, in that the memory is still referenced.

A memory leak always leads to a fatal application crash. Safari uses a lot of memory, but there's no leak.
Cocoa itself has some memory leaks, so all Cocoa apps inherently do. I suppose if you left them running (and doing things) for years you might eventually get a heap overflow and crash, but in general it's a minor nuisance unless it's a fast leak.
     
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Nov 26, 2006, 03:29 PM
 
Originally Posted by Mastrap View Post
Safari doesn't have a memory leak. A memory leak always leads to a fatal application crash. Safari uses a lot of memory, but there's no leak.

Personally I get by with Safari and Firefox. Camino doesn't have anything that I can't get elsewhere.

Ok, the thing that many of us notice is that when you start Safari it uses ~40-60 MB of RAM. After about 30-60 minutes that RAM usage can be anywhere from 200-300 MB of RAM. Why is this? Firefox does not do this.
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Nov 26, 2006, 03:34 PM
 
Originally Posted by Anand View Post
Ok, the thing that many of us notice is that when you start Safari it uses ~40-60 MB of RAM. After about 30-60 minutes that RAM usage can be anywhere from 200-300 MB of RAM. Why is this? Firefox does not do this.
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Nov 27, 2006, 07:31 PM
 
Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - View Post
Is there a slowdown? No.
Is it the fastest browser currently on the Mac? Yes.

Case closed.
Does it offer AdBlock Plus functionality and a customizable UI? No, case closed
     
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Originally Posted by Kar98 View Post
Does it offer AdBlock Plus functionality and a customizable UI? No, case closed
AdBlock Plus offers what exactly? I don't see any ads with SAFT. Does AdBlock Plus replace them with hot chicks or something?

Safari has a customizable UI. I can add and take away all the buttons it offers. I seriously hope you aren't referring to "theming" which is a joke.

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Nov 28, 2006, 02:37 PM
 
camino is good, but here on my ibook:

1. safari is faster at scrolling
2. camino's UI is quite bloated (safari's is a lot more compact) //EDIT: actually, with a little tweaking, camino can be as small as safari's UI.
3. i prefer safari's brushed metal.

but, there are a lot of nifty features camino has, like:

1. the ability to drag-scroll (like in PDFs)
2. block CPU-eating flash ads.
3. other stuff i have forgoten.

so, i am undecided, but if camino does wordpress wysiwyg nicely, it'll be the winner.
     
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Jan 27, 2007, 10:12 PM
 
I just wanted to let everyone know that a new version of Camino is out: 1.1 Alpha 2.

New features...

Camino 1.1 Alpha 2

The following major features have been added to Camino 1.1 Alpha 2 and will be in Camino 1.1 when it is released. The full release notes are also available.

Note: Some of these features are not yet completely implemented.

Keychain interoperability: Camino can now read passwords stored in the Keychain by Safari and will use Safari passwords if no passwords have been saved for the site by Camino.
Camino versions older than 1.1a2 will not be able to read passwords modified or created in Camino 1.1a2 or later versions.
Using “Reset Safari” will delete any passwords saved by Camino 1.1a2 or later that have been used in Safari.
Window Zooming: The Zoom command now resizes the window to fit the current page’s content instead of making the window full-screen.
Session Saving: Camino now has a preference to save a list of all active tabs and windows on quit and will periodically save the list while browsing (this feature is not yet exposed in the the user interface).
In addition, Camino 1.1 Alpha 2 includes the following notable bug fixes over Camino 1.1 Alpha 1.

Spell-checking: Control-clicking on a misspelled word now selects the word and properly offers spelling suggestions.
Bookmarks Backup: Camino now makes a backup copy of the bookmarks file on startup if the file is not corrupted and tries to use a backup copy of the bookmarks file if the original bookmarks file appears to be corrupt on startup.
Bookmarking Single Pages: Camino 1.1a2 fixes an issued introduced in Camino 1.1a1 which sometimes prevented bookmarking single pages.
Pop-up Blocking: Camino 1.1a2 fixes an issue in Camino 1.1a1 where pop-ups were sometimes blocked without showing the pop-up blocker. In addition, text and buttons in the pop-up blocker now wrap properly in small windows.
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