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Jun 29, 2016, 01:41 AM
 
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A marriage certificate would make Jon another legitimate claimant to the throne then?
Yes. It may matter who was born first. Dany is direct from the Mad King, but may have been born later than Jon, and after the Mad King died. I haven't read the books.
... and Bran seems to be the other essential part of that alliance.
I'm wondering if Bran is also Bran the Builder. There have been steady hints that he could sync into the past, and warnings that he might get stuck there if he did. If he were the one who built the wall, then he'd have to return to the present by living through the intervening years - vision quests seem to only go to the past. So, he might return to the present as the 3-eyed raven, hitching a ride on the long life of a tree. The old 3eR stated Bran was there to become him. Perhaps it was a literal answer?
Where is Brienne off to at the moment? I know she left Riverrun but is she still on Team Sansa? I guess she's headed back north to Winterfell.
Did she ever tell Sansa and/or Jon that she ran into Arya with The Hound?
Brienne is heavy on loyalty, so she and Pod are on the way back. Brienne did brief Sansa on her encounter with Arya in Ep 2 Home, right before Theon split.
     
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Yes. It may matter who was born first. Dany is direct from the Mad King, but may have been born later than Jon, and after the Mad King died. I haven't read the books.
He is ahead of Dany in the line of succession, if it can be proven that he is not a bastard. The order of succession is to go to the eldest son, then the sons of the eldest son, before you go to the second son etc. Also male preference, but Jon would also be ahead of Viserys.

GRRM has a couple of Freys discussing this at one point in the books, making it clear what the order of succession is.

There is also a chance of Sam discovering whatever it was that Rhaegar discovered. This is in The World of Ice & Fire, not even the main series books, but it is mentioned that Rhaegar discovered some prophesy, thought himself to be the Prince that was Promised, and started acting according to this - learning to fight, etc.

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I'm wondering if Bran is also Bran the Builder. There have been steady hints that he could sync into the past, and warnings that he might get stuck there if he did. If he were the one who built the wall, then he'd have to return to the present by living through the intervening years - vision quests seem to only go to the past. So, he might return to the present as the 3-eyed raven, hitching a ride on the long life of a tree. The old 3eR stated Bran was there to become him. Perhaps it was a literal answer?
Time travel is freaky - but yes, it would make sense, and the Hodor scene could be said to hint to this setup.
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Jun 29, 2016, 07:59 AM
 
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And will Aria head to Winterfell next? She has to have heard by now that her half/adopted brother and her sister conquered it back. And was Tyrion on her list? I thought only Cercei (and Joffrey, but hey, he's dead now) is left of the Lannisters on that list.
IIRC the list is now Cersei, The Mountain, Ilin Payne (Ned's executioner), Berric Dondarrion, Thoros of Mhyr and The Hound.

The rest are dead. The Hound might get a pass.
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Jun 29, 2016, 08:23 AM
 
Mellisandre is on that list too because Arya thinks she was going to kill Gendry for her magic. She is the reason Thoros and Dondarrion are on there (they gave Gendry up to her). Since Gendry didn't die at Mellisandre's hands, all three of those might be let off if Arya gets the story straight.

Dondarrion is dead in the books. The Mountain is undead which might be sufficient punishment (he doesn't seem to have a will of his own anymore, he only obeys Cersei and Qyburn). The Hound, as you say, will likely get a pass.

It really shortens down when you put it like that. She needs to go visit the Red Keep and vacate that oversized chair.
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Jun 29, 2016, 12:46 PM
 
The Hound will get a pass. After all that from a few seasons back?

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For those who don't know, that is a joke account. GRRM is not on Twitter.
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Jul 1, 2016, 05:35 PM
 
I didn't know, so thanks. It had me worried for a moment.
     
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Aug 26, 2016, 04:09 PM
 
Up to season 2, let's see if I can catch up.
     
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Aug 27, 2016, 02:17 PM
 
Oh, I know what's coming. It's the last two seasons after the books end that are new for me. I'm tempted to just skip to there, but want to see how they did it too.
     
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Aug 27, 2016, 03:41 PM
 
Better watch through anyway. The series storylines diverge somewhat from the books. If you skip ahead, some things won't make sense.
     
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Sep 2, 2016, 12:16 AM
 
Ok, season 3 complete... phew. Seems like it's going too fast, yet it's probably good they cut chapters like Catelyn's father's lingering illness, and combining other characters also helps simplify things. Without subtitles or introductions every second, it is a bit hard to tell all the angular white guys in armor apart. I wish they hadn't cut as much of the nights' watch vs whitewalker battle, that would have been a good one to see. Perhaps season 4 makes up for that!

someone needs to invent a cell phone, stat, to reduce the number of misunderstandings and crossed paths!
     
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also, forgot to post this:

 
     
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^^ We had ~20 people here watching during that episode, I can still remember the screams.
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Sep 15, 2016, 01:38 PM
 
Season 4 was pretty good. Littlefinger, you devious devious man. Sansa just can't catch a break.

Season 5 starts to get muddled for me, as I try to remember what happened in the books vs what they changed. The Dorne bits seemed rushed and wasted. More Bran please.

 
     
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Sep 15, 2016, 01:43 PM
 
Season 5 is pretty far off from the books in most things.

 


Without spoiling anything, I think you will enjoy Season 6. I know the Internet did.
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Wow. Season 6, yep, that's good stuff.
 
     
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Sep 19, 2016, 01:17 PM
 
They ran out of $$ for the Ghost + BotB action... I shit you not. They could have crowdfunded that, people would have paid to see it.

As for there not being many Targaryens:

 
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GRRM is teasing. His only official presence online is the "Not a blog", where he recently posted this:

http://grrm.livejournal.com/

The quote is from Revelations, and if you take the "one hour" literally, it could point to a private premiere for S7 of the TV series that apparently happened yesterday. There are a couple of things wrong with that, though. First, the tag is "A Song of Ice and Fire", which refers to the books rather than the TV series (see the other posts with that tag). Second, comments are disabled. Usually GRRM watches the comments and shoots down any speculation before it gets out of hand, and he almost never disables comments. This might actually, possibly, be an announcement that TWoW is done.
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Jul 13, 2017, 11:52 AM
 
Reminder to all: Season 7 begins on July 16 - this Sunday.

Arya has her knives ready. You should be ready too.
     
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Jul 13, 2017, 05:47 PM
 
From the HBO promotional pics, she has more than that.
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Tonight at 9PM. Don't forget, dragons and despots time. Plus the ice men who hang with dead people. And assorted other weird types wandering around.

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Arya has her knives ready.
Apparently one of them is made of Valyrian Steel.
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^^ and it made a cameo in a book this episode, if you have keen eyes and saw it. Which means it's very, very old, and probably important (beyond its history on the show thus far).

 
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Jul 17, 2017, 12:45 AM
 
Good start, six episodes to go. Looks like no filler this season.
     
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Good start, six episodes to go. Looks like no filler this season.
Fewer episodes, meaning they can spend more $$ on each one.
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Cameos this season:

 

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^^ and it made a cameo in a book this episode, if you have keen eyes and saw it. Which means it's very, very old, and probably important (beyond its history on the show thus far).
I think its called the Catspawn knife or something like that, but yes I spotted it in the book.
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Cameos this season:

 
Joking or no?
     
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I'm sure it's a joke, but Ed Sheeran was in Ep. 1 this season.

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There is a whitewalker giant. Oh noes.
     
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I counted 3 of them, in that shot alone.
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Are white dragons a possibility?
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Ice dragons are, but it's unsure what side they would be on.
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Finally was able to get my dad to watch GoT, and Ned quickly became his favorite character. Then, after the first season:



Without specifically giving anything away, I advised that maybe he should gain an appreciation for the younger Stark kids. So he's now hitched his horse to Jon and Arya (and Tyrion, obviously).
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Ice dragons are, but it's unsure what side they would be on.
I would guess the Nights King, so undead ice dragons.
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Jul 26, 2017, 04:51 PM
 
It is so weird having to wait a week for the next episode.

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That was a very satisfying episode, and the sfx featurette about the big final scene was very interesting. They ar sparing no expense on these episodes.

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Agreed, very good...
 
     
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The Arya vs Brianne sparring was very good, Littlefinger should be terrified.
 
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The Arya vs Brianne sparring was very good, Littlefinger should be terrified.
 
Yeah I'm definitely pulling for that.

 

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Littlefinger is one of the most interesting characters. With Dany and Cersei you know they either end up on the throne or dead. People like Jamie, Bronn, Davos, Brienne and other warriors will either be on the winning side or likely die in battle, but Littlefinger, Varys and Tyrion are much harder to call. Part of me thinks Littlefinger will be the last bad guy. After the throne is won and the army of the dead beaten is when he will try to seize power from whoever is left, but no-one really likes him so he could die at any moment. Who does the brat of the Vale side with if Littlefinger dies sooner rather than later though? And Who will kill him? Aria, Sansa or Jon? Brienne? Someone else?
For all his scheming and ambition though, the one thing we might actually know about him for sure is that he really loved Catelyn Stark and that being the case, perhaps he is the Snape of the piece and would die to protect her children.

 


I keep wondering who will kill The Mountain. There aren't many who should stand a chance. Brienne or The Hound maybe. Aria would be the preferred choice obviously. Jon? Ser Jorah? Grey Worm? Second favourite choice must surely be Drogon?

 


I'm curious about the gods. It seems the Lord of Light is on the side of the living, what about the drowned god or the many-faced god? Do the walkers have a god or two on their side? I need to re-watch the episode with the origin of the Nights King.
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I great rundown of the Arya > Brienne fight, as seen by an actual swordsman.

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Aug 14, 2017, 10:19 AM
 
Two cool things from this last episode.

1. Drogon introducing himself to Jon. At first I believe Drogon was asserting himself, he was going to let Jon know that Daenerys was his and that Jon had better back off. But then, after a good sniff, he realized that Jon was one of "his people", a Targaryen, and changed his mind. It was about as subtle as a sledgehammer, but overall was a good scene.

2. The Magnificent Seven moment as Jon's crew sets off beyond the wall. It could be the most badass assemblage so far this series, they could take out a small army all by themselves.
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That sword video was interesting, thanks.

I like how things seem to be faster moving this season. Less fluff. I do wonder how long it takes to travel from, say, Dragonstone to the Wall. Drogon and Jon, very good. At first I thought it was a different dragon, til they showed Danyrus on his back.
     
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With only 7 episodes, due to rapidly escalating salaries, they needed to do something, I guess, and overall it doesn't bother me too much. The rapid travel does almost give me whiplash, though, and I'd love more exposition, but oh well.
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