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Codename · May 5, 2002, 12:20 PM

12 hours and 20 minutes until Steve's keynote at WWDC at 10:00 AM tomorrow.

Post all your last-minute predicitons here.

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Guy Incognito · May 5, 2002, 12:33 PM

Steve's gonna show off the latest Quake 3 on 10.2, the game will freeze during the loading process, he won't be able to force-quit so he's just gonna switch the monitor to the backup G4 and make everything seem alright.

or

Steve's gonna demonstrate his new camera with 10.2, it won't work, and he'll chuck the camera into the crowd with furious anger.

or

Steve's gonna try to synch his iPod with iTunes in 10.2, it's gonna stall, and he'll say something funny like 'Well, you know what it's supposed to do.'

kovacs · May 5, 2002, 12:36 PM

Cool, huh ?

We are going to hear that a lot...

Guy Incognito · May 5, 2002, 12:36 PM

But what would really rock is a demonstration of Doom 3 on 10.2, running on a G5 and DDR-RAM with a prototype GeForce 5.

motti · May 5, 2002, 12:37 PM

Like the bluescreen which happened to bill during a presentation of win95 or 98 some years ago? that was fun!

NeoMac · May 5, 2002, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by motti:
Like the bluescreen which happened to bill during a presentation of win95 or 98 some years ago? that was fun!

Actually, he also had a 'blue screen' demonstrating XP.

As for Jaguar:
- IMO, as long as it has 'USB Printer Sharing', then everything else is just icing on the cake.

- A built-in, single connection version of 'Apple Remote Desktop' would be sweet.

that's all i really care about, but we all know they'll introduce atleast one feature that we never even thought about before, but which we will never be able to live without again

Appleman · May 5, 2002, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by motti:
Like the bluescreen which happened to bill during a presentation of win95 or 98 some years ago? that was fun!

Thta really WAS fun, but actually I never have seen it, just heard itand laughed a lot. Is there someone who has it as a movie or knows of a place where to get it? Would be great!

Codename · May 5, 2002, 01:07 PM

23 hours 52 minutes

Agasthya · May 5, 2002, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by Codename:
23 hours 52 minutes

Good lord please don't let this thread become a massive countdown thread till tomorrow morning.

pathogen · May 5, 2002, 01:20 PM

if I were writing a list of things to do for the WWDC, this is what I'd write down as my notes.

1) Latest Stuff - talk about recently introduced dvi powerbooks and emacs. ipod stuff. imac success. Photoshop 6. Midnight passed on the clock for OS X. Bluetooth.

2) demo 10.2 and Quicktime 6. Maybe demo id software stuff. Maybe demo new nvidia or ati technology. Other software.

3) Maybe introduce new ibooks (faster, better video card), maybe a new mouse (maybe 2 buttons and scroll wheel, maybe bluetooth wireless), maybe new rackmount server.

4) developpers, developpers, developpers, developpers.

-> save for MWNY: upgraded iMacs, new Powermacs, 10.2, Quicktime 6 (or sooner), DVD Studio Pro 2, another iapp (or sooner).

Guy Incognito · May 5, 2002, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by agasthya:


Good lord please don't let this thread become a massive countdown thread till tomorrow morning.

I disagree...let the countdown begin!!!!!!!

Appleman · May 5, 2002, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by Codename:
24 hours and 40 minutes until Steve's keynote at WWDC at 10:00 AM tomorrow.

Post all your last-minute predicitons here.

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Would be nice if you could countdown the tilte of this topic

JLL · May 5, 2002, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by Appleman:


Thta really WAS fun, but actually I never have seen it, just heard itand laughed a lot. Is there someone who has it as a movie or knows of a place where to get it? Would be great!

It was even funnier when MS launched Win95 here in Copenhagen. The same second the presenter clicked on the Start menu the power went out.

Krusty · May 5, 2002, 02:47 PM

Yikes NeoMac .... I HADN'T thought of that one. A free, single user version of ARD would be sweeter than sin. I've had the chance to use ExpertCity a number of times from work and its quite a cool concept and surprisingly useful.

ARD for the masses !!! Hook us up apple !!! What good is a digital hub if we can't run that hub from anywhere ?? How 'bout package it as another iTool ... iRemote, anyone? I think this woud definitely rank in the "once we get it, we'll never be able to live without it again" category..

Appleman · May 5, 2002, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by JLL:


It was even funnier when MS launched Win95 here in Copenhagen. The same second the presenter clicked on the Start menu the power went out.

but I guess nobody has this as a movie??? Please

Targon · May 5, 2002, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by Guy Incognito:
But what would really rock is a demonstration of Doom 3 on 10.2, running on a G5 and DDR-RAM with a prototype GeForce 5.

We call it Acieeeeeeeeeeeed Acieeeeeeeeeeeeed

Angus_D · May 5, 2002, 04:15 PM

Actually it's <insert countdown here> until DEMONSTRATION OF 10.2. It will not be released tomorrow.

pat++ · May 5, 2002, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by Angus_D:
Actually it's <insert countdown here> until DEMONSTRATION OF 10.2. It will not be released tomorrow.

We all know Jaguar won't be released tomorrow.

I will NOT be released until end of july/begining of setptember IMHO.

Codename · May 5, 2002, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by pat++:


We all know Jaguar won't be released tomorrow.

I will NOT be released until end of july/begining of setptember IMHO.

Oh really? You do realize that 10.1.5 is nowhere to be seen even though it's been ready for weeks.

Perhaps Apple skipped 10.1.5 altogether and is going for a 10.2 release?

pat++ · May 5, 2002, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by Codename:


Oh really? You do realize that 10.1.5 is nowhere to be seen even though it's been ready for weeks.

Perhaps Apple skipped 10.1.5 altogether and is going for a 10.2 release?

They take time to make 10.1.5 a nice update because they do have a lot of time before the release of 10.2 in september

They wouldn't care including new features like anti-aliasing for Carbon apps in 10.1.5 if this was not the case.

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JLL · May 5, 2002, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by Codename:


Oh really? You do realize that 10.1.5 is nowhere to be seen even though it's been ready for weeks.

Perhaps Apple skipped 10.1.5 altogether and is going for a 10.2 release?

Ready for weeks? There are newer builds out than the ones talked about here on MacNN.

OwlBoy · May 5, 2002, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by Appleman:

but I guess nobody has this as a movie??? Please

LOL its still on CNN's servers, they must find it real funny too.
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/98...tes.30.160.mov
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/98...tes.30.240.mov

-Owl

[Edit: I found the larger version too]

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iJed · May 5, 2002, 05:31 PM

How do we know that Jaguar will be Mac OS X 10.2? I think that if Apple are going to charge for it then they will make it version 10.5 instead. Maybe Steve will announce this tomorrow followed by some sarcastic remark about the rumor sites not getting the version number correct. It will probably be 10.2 though...

BuonRotto · May 5, 2002, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by Codename:


Oh really? You do realize that 10.1.5 is nowhere to be seen even though it's been ready for weeks.

Perhaps Apple skipped 10.1.5 altogether and is going for a 10.2 release?

That what they said about 10.1.4 (or was it 10.1.3?).

Demo only, most of it being overhauled under-the-hood stuff. My guess is nothing unexpected insofar as GUI features -- yet.

JLL · May 5, 2002, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by iJed:
How do we know that Jaguar will be Mac OS X 10.2? I think that if Apple are going to charge for it then they will make it version 10.5 instead. Maybe Steve will announce this tomorrow followed by some sarcastic remark about the rumor sites not getting the version number correct. It will probably be 10.2 though...

I've been thinking for quite a while now that Jaguar will be named 10.5.

Ghoser777 · May 5, 2002, 05:39 PM

I've never heard Steve rail about the rumors sites. I bet he never reads any of them, only hears about them from those below him in the company who check for apple insider info being leaked. Jaguar is 10.2 b/c the apple OS X page says that 10.2, codenamed Jaguar, will be previewed at WWDC.

F-bacher

pat++ · May 5, 2002, 05:53 PM

I am tired of this 10.2/10.5 naming thing... who cares ? what would prevent Apple from charging for the upgrade, event if it's called 10.1.26576 ?

JLL · May 5, 2002, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Ghoser777:
Jaguar is 10.2 b/c the apple OS X page says that 10.2, codenamed Jaguar, will be previewed at WWDC.

F-bacher

Check again Sherlock.

JB72 · May 5, 2002, 06:45 PM

Are you guys really arguing that 10.1.5 is Jaguar? Do you think Apple is hyping WWDC '02 largely on the basis of seeing a "sneak peak" of the next little incremental upgrade?

Come now come now...

Angus_D · May 5, 2002, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by iJed:
How do we know that Jaguar will be Mac OS X 10.2?

Because that's merely a versioning detail. When people talk about Jaguar or 10.2, they're referring to THE NEXT MAJOR POINT RELEASE OF MAC OS X NO MATTER WHAT THE HELL IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED.

Originally posted by JB72:
Are you guys really arguing that 10.1.5 is Jaguar?

Nobody said that.

Oneota · May 5, 2002, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by OwlBoy:


LOL its still on CNN's servers, they must find it real funny too.
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/98...tes.30.160.mov
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/98...tes.30.240.mov

-Owl

[Edit: I found the larger version too]

[ 05-05-2002: Message edited by: OwlBoy ]

Thanks for the links, but I think he was talking about the one where the power went off right as the Start button was being clicked.

kennethmac2000 · May 5, 2002, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by pat++:


We all know Jaguar won't be released tomorrow.

I will NOT be released until end of july/begining of setptember IMHO.

What about August? Can they not release Mac OS X updates in August?

pat++ · May 5, 2002, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by kennethmac2000:


What about August? Can they not release Mac OS X updates in August?

You caught me

I meant end of August/Begining of September

Grozni Majmun · May 5, 2002, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by pat++:

I will NOT be released until end of july/begining of setptember IMHO.

Well, thank god!

We're safe for now!

Codename · May 6, 2002, 12:24 AM

*bump*

CharlesS · May 6, 2002, 12:59 AM

Well, it's been over 12 hours 20 minutes... where's my 10.2?

Appleman · May 6, 2002, 04:11 AM

Originally posted by OwlBoy:


LOL its still on CNN's servers, they must find it real funny too.
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/98...tes.30.160.mov
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/98...tes.30.240.mov

-Owl

[Edit: I found the larger version too]

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Thanks for the movies!
Joris

boticario · May 6, 2002, 07:36 AM

Just for those living in Europe: 19:00 CET

pat++ · May 6, 2002, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by boticario:
Just for those living in Europe: 19:00 CET

5 hours left

Sealobo · May 6, 2002, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by pat++:


5 hours left

damn i thought it's 10:00 ET...

iJed · May 6, 2002, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by boticario:
Just for those living in Europe: 19:00 CET

18:00 UK time I think.

sungwoo · May 6, 2002, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by iJed:


18:00 UK time I think.

Yeah,

4h35m left.

bighill · May 6, 2002, 08:34 AM

Is there a broadcast of the speech??

pat++ · May 6, 2002, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by bighill:
Is there a broadcast of the speech??

Unfortunately, I don't think so

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kennethmac2000 · May 6, 2002, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by boticario:
Just for those living in Europe: 19:00 CET

To be quite correct, should that not be CEST?

Guy Incognito · May 6, 2002, 08:41 AM

OMG, 10.2 PREVIEW AT APPLE'S WEBSITE

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...right after Steve's keynote.

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P · May 6, 2002, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by kennethmac2000:


To be quite correct, should that not be CEST?

Actually, no. The symbol is CET in winter and summer. There are ways to show daylight savings or not in other equivalent symbols, like MET (with MEWT and MEST) but CET doesn't change.

pat++ · May 6, 2002, 09:04 AM

4 hours left

Aldie G · May 6, 2002, 09:07 AM

Guy. You're an *******.

That just caused a very serious heart-attack. Man. Luckily my girlfriend was at home. Or I would be dead by now. *******. not funny.

Drizzt · May 6, 2002, 09:48 AM

3h13 left...

Damn it's good doing a "free" internship.. I can waste my time as much as I want

Edit : Damned UBB

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