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KaptainKaya · Oct 23, 2002, 02:19 PM

I have a network using DSL at home. recently my g/f wanted to format her HD and reinstall windows and everything. Bad thing is, she has 500MB to backup (files, settings, that stuff). I figured I could just connect the laptop to the network, then do a Connect to Server option from the Finder. No dice. I have sharing turned on for the PC but nothing...anyone have any ideas? Sorry if this was talked about before, searching returned nothing of use for my situation. Thanks!

dwishbone · Oct 23, 2002, 03:35 PM

easiest way is turn on windows file sharing in jaguar.
then connect to your mac from the PC.
it says the path you need to type on the PC right there in the network window.
should be much easier.
it will ask for a login and password. just use the login name and password for one of the users on your mac.
have fun.

KaptainKaya · Oct 23, 2002, 04:20 PM

For some reason its still not seeing the mac. I have windows sharing turned on. Windows still for some reason doesn't see it...odd.

dwishbone · Oct 23, 2002, 04:28 PM

d you have the ip set up properly on both the mac and the PC?
set the mac to dhcp. that should make it easy.
i always just use the ips
192.168.0.x on subnet 255.255.255.0.
DHCP should do all this for you though.

yellowdog · Oct 23, 2002, 04:42 PM

It may have been mentioned before, but your mac needs to be on the same subnet as your PC for it to see your PC. The other thing, when you configure your PC networking options, check under the properties of your network connect and make sure that you uncheck the enable firewall option. I missed that one when I tried it on my setup.

KaptainKaya · Oct 23, 2002, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by dwishbone:
d you have the ip set up properly on both the mac and the PC?
set the mac to dhcp. that should make it easy.
i always just use the ips
192.168.0.x on subnet 255.255.255.0.
DHCP should do all this for you though.

Sure is. Thats the odd thing, firewall is off but yet I still cant see it. I had to have done something wrong somewhere cause it shouldnt be this complicated!

lucylawless · Oct 23, 2002, 05:20 PM

you could also try FTP (turn on ftp file sharing on the mac, download an ftp app for the pc if necessary and wait for the mac to show it's ip in the Network pref pane). this is usually the most reliable for me. Hotline is next, but it's a pain to find the software these days

Diggory Laycock · Oct 23, 2002, 05:36 PM

don't you both have to be in the same "workgroup"?

Brass · Oct 23, 2002, 06:36 PM

You've also got to make sure that the user you want to connect as is allowed to connect from Windows (User Account preferences). But that shouldn't stop you from seeing the Mac from Windows.

KaptainKaya · Oct 23, 2002, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by Diggory Laycock:
don't you both have to be in the same "workgroup"?

I doubt that. I know on an all Windows network you have to be in the same workgroup (I think) but I didn't think that was true on a mixed network. I'll try that ftp thingy next.

dwishbone · Oct 23, 2002, 08:22 PM

yeah, you dont have to worry about workgroups when X is involved.
the ftp thing should work ok.
just use an FTP client on the PC and enter the IP address of your mac.
login and pass will be one of your user accounts on your OS X system
one other thing you may or may not have thought of...do you have the right kind of cable?
there are basically two types of ethernet...standard and crossover.
you have to have a crossover cable if you are connecting two pcs directly without a hub. if you have a hub you can just use a standard cable.
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TheTraveller · Oct 23, 2002, 08:43 PM

It sounds to me like something is wrong with your network configuration, not OS X or Windows. Can you "ping" one machine from the other?

MacManMikeOSX · Oct 23, 2002, 09:18 PM

You dont have to be in WORKGROUP just go to /Application/Utilitys and open directoryServices authenticate highlight SMB Then push Configure to change the workgroup.

KaptainKaya · Oct 23, 2002, 09:46 PM

I got it...I used ftp from the PC to get into the mac. Weird...but I have it all backed up now. Thanks guys, for all the help.

lucylawless · Oct 23, 2002, 10:01 PM

I thought any mac since the Tibook had auto-sensing or something, so that a crossover cable was no longer needed. or is that still just powerbooks?

dwishbone · Oct 23, 2002, 10:31 PM

i have never and probably never will trust auto sensing. it doesnt always work. plus, the PC would have to support it as well for it to work. its better to just use the right sort of cables. i have a hub network in my home, but i have a cross over cable to take on the go to direct connect to someone elses computer with my iBook if need be.

ShotgunEd · Oct 24, 2002, 05:41 AM

Originally posted by lucylawless:
I thought any mac since the Tibook had auto-sensing or something, so that a crossover cable was no longer needed. or is that still just powerbooks?

Any G4 based mac has an auto-sensing ethernet port.

Originally posted by dwishbone:
i have never and probably never will trust auto sensing. it doesnt always work. plus, the PC would have to support it as well for it to work. its better to just use the right sort of cables. i have a hub network in my home, but i have a cross over cable to take on the go to direct connect to someone elses computer with my iBook if need be.

The PC doesn't have to support it. I connected a Quicksilver and a 9600 with just a patch cable. Only one of the computers has to have an auto-sensing port.
A cross-over cable is an essential piece of kit though, makes life a hell of a lot easier when trying to troubleshoot a network.