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moowriece · Sep 14, 2004, 10:27 AM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...304042,00.html

How long must this "liberation" charade continue??? I am getting so mad that this happens in the name of the so called "civilised world". The Arab world is indeed getting a very mean message: an Iraqi/Palestinan/Arab life is worth nothing compared to a Yankee life.

voodoo · Sep 14, 2004, 10:31 AM

This adds further to the disgrace the US has been in Iraq. I'm surprised if Iraqis will ever forgive the US for the atrocities they've made and I wonder if arabs can ever see any western country as anything but a reflection of the US under Bush. Sad, because we are nothing like that.

moowriece · Sep 14, 2004, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by voodoo:
This adds further to the disgrace the US has been in Iraq. I'm surprised if Iraqis will ever forgive the US for the atrocities they've made and I wonder if arabs can ever see any western country as anything but a reflection of the US under Bush. Sad, because we are nothing like that.

Indeed, four more years George Bush and the enormous damage worldwide to the US image is really irreversible (it almost is now). It's gonna haunt them for years to come, but alas ... it's the American civilians' choice

dcolton · Sep 14, 2004, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by moowriece:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...304042,00.html The Arab world is indeed getting a very mean message: an Iraqi/Palestinan/Arab life is worth nothing compared to a Yankee life.

Finish the sentence...."so quit ****ing with the US".

Spliffdaddy · Sep 14, 2004, 10:35 AM

I'm not sure many Americans really care what Iraqis think about them.

Not sure Americans care what anybody thinks about them.

You'll have to work within the confines of that attitude, I suppose, is what I'm trying to say.

At any rate - you can bet your life Iraqis have no opinion whatsoever of Iceland.

Zimphire · Sep 14, 2004, 10:39 AM

I say we pull out and hand everything over to Russia.

Then you'll have something to REALLY complain about.

dcolton · Sep 14, 2004, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:

At any rate - you can bet your life Iraqis have no opinion whatsoever of Iceland.

LMAO

SimeyTheLimey · Sep 14, 2004, 11:08 AM

Key word "allegations." Key word missing: "evidence."

voodoo · Sep 14, 2004, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by dcolton:
LMAO

yes that was funny!

Simey: ya we realize on what stage this thing is on, but given recent history this isn't so far fetched. Even if it turns out to be untrue this is incredibly bad pr for the occupying US. That is the point so far. I think the US army has already been dished out for the treatment of prisoners in Abu Gharib.

Zimphire · Sep 14, 2004, 11:20 AM

The truth is of no concern! It's the accusations that matter!

djohnson · Sep 14, 2004, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
I say we pull out and hand everything over to Russia.

Then you'll have something to REALLY complain about.

As Russia rolls through and destroys everything if even 1 of their soldiers dies?

SimeyTheLimey · Sep 14, 2004, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by voodoo:
Even if it turns out to be untrue this is incredibly bad pr for the occupying US. That is the point so far. I think the US army has already been dished out for the treatment of prisoners in Abu Gharib.

The word for such "incredibly bad PR" is propaganda.. That's all you have so far. But of course, the Guardian is happy to run with that, and people who read it will no doubt lap it up.

voodoo · Sep 14, 2004, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by SimeyTheLimey:
The word for such "incredibly bad PR" is propaganda.. That's all you have so far. But of course, the Guardian is happy to run with that, and people who read it will no doubt lap it up.

No it is just bad PR. I don't see how this should be propaganda rather than bad PR. Besides, the US has a bad record when it comes to torturing prisoners. It doesn't really matter if this is true or not. The US is being done a favor to be reminded every once in a while. So it won't repeat itself no?

deedar · Sep 14, 2004, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
The truth is of no concern!

It's certainly ironic that this is indeed, the truth!
(can you follow this zimp?)

Shaddim · Sep 14, 2004, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by deedar:
It's certainly ironic that this is indeed, the truth!
(can you follow this zimp?)

It's the truth, yet they have no evidence? Wha?!?

PacHead · Sep 14, 2004, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by MacNStein:
It's the truth, yet they have no evidence? Wha?!?

Hey, it said so in The Gaurdian, so it must be true.

Zimphire · Sep 14, 2004, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by deedar:
It's certainly ironic that this is indeed, the truth!

WOW, since when do you call something the truth when it have nothing factual to base it on?

(can you follow this zimp?)

Deeder your childish attempts at personal attacks are nothing short of being droll. Either get better at it, or stop embarrassing yourself.

spacefreak · Sep 14, 2004, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:

WOW, since when do you call something the truth when it have nothing factual to base it on?[/B]

If Dan Rather and CBS can do it, then we all can do it.

Spoogepieces · Sep 14, 2004, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by moowriece:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...304042,00.html

How long must this "liberation" charade continue??? I am getting so mad that this happens in the name of the so called "civilised world". The Arab world is indeed getting a very mean message: an Iraqi/Palestinan/Arab life is worth nothing compared to a Yankee life.

And in the Muslim world a non-Muslim's life is worth less than a Muslim's.

Shouldn't have started attacking the United States (and now Russia).

Spheric Harlot · Sep 14, 2004, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
I'm not sure many Americans really care what Iraqis think about them.

I see a problem with that attitude, to be considered the second you start bombing Iraqis, while trying to be their friends.

deedar · 03:15 PM

Originally posted by MacNStein:
It's the truth, yet they have no evidence? Wha?!?

My bad. I was was speaking in a broader context (i.e. the mess in Iraq) - In the context of this thread, it was a non sequitur. Sorry.

deedar · Sep 14, 2004, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
I see a problem with that attitude, to be considered the second you start bombing Iraqis, while trying to be their friends.

I think the Iraqis find the attitude problematic as well.

Spheric Harlot · Sep 14, 2004, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by deedar:
I think the Iraqis find the attitude problematic as well.

Yes, but who cares?

They're dancing in the streets, just like Uncle Bush and his dick promised!

Shaddim · Sep 14, 2004, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
Hey, it said so in The Gaurdian, so it must be true.

Oh, sillly me, good show then!!

Viva la proletariat!!

UR-20 · 07:21 PM

Originally posted by dcolton:
Finish the sentence...."so quit ****ing with the US".

50 years later....

F***ing Arabs!! God I hate em! Teach them to mess with the U.S.!!"

zen jihad · Sep 16, 2004, 09:28 AM

http://rense.com/general57/sharprr.htm

typoon · Sep 17, 2004, 09:48 AM

I see all these Liberals and Dems getting all bent out of shape because of some "alleged" abuse and some confirmed abuses of Prisoners. I DON'T see them get outraged at the beheadings of INNOCENT people. Sorry but the death of these innocent people SHOULD OUTRAGE them more than some abuses. I doubt the terrorists are treating the captured with any dignity.

yakkiebah · Sep 17, 2004, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by Spoogepieces:
And in the Muslim world a non-Muslim's life is worth less than a Muslim's.

Shouldn't have started attacking the United States (and now Russia).

Iraq attacked the US? When?

Oh wait i get it, muslims, arabs whatever they all look the same...